Nancy Kaffer Says Men Need A Better Men’s Rights Movement

Ted8367 · 2014-12-17T00:59:07+00:00

men really could use a movement

We already have one, Nancy...

just not the misogynistic, conspiracy-minded one they have now.

... and it's getting too effective for your tastes.

scottsouth · 2014-12-16T23:36:03+00:00

And women need a better women's rights movement, and the American people need a better U.S. government, and L.A. needs better roads, and my aunt needs a better diet. It's almost like there's always a way to improve something. Thanks for the completely useless article Ms. Kaffer.

2014-12-17T00:31:44+00:00

What the Men's Rights Movement needs is lawyers to file discrimination lawsuits, and a lot of them.

BlueDoorFour · 2014-12-17T01:09:14+00:00

Please show me the misogyny in the MRM.

I don't mean anti-feminism (opposition to feminist theory). I don't mean traditionalism (that exists too, though not as much as you'd think). I don't mean a few heavily downvoted sexist troll comments, or a satirical Jezebel response from Paul Elam. I don't mean MGTOW, or TRP, or the PUA community, because even if you believe that "MRA" refers to anything remotely non-feminist online, those aren't related.

I mean actual cases of prominent men's rights advocates expressing a deep-seated hatred of women purely for their gender. This is what misogyny means, and if you want to characterize the MRM as misogynistic, it should be easy to find.

myalias1 · 2014-12-16T23:50:48+00:00

I'd encourage everyone to follow the "other discussions" tab up top.

scottsouth · 2014-12-17T07:45:24+00:00

Notice that her only two links to reddit are those from TheRedPill (a sub that a lot of people here don't like), and none from the actual MensRights sub.

GenderNeutralLanguag · 2014-12-16T22:29:04+00:00

We do need a better Men's Rights Movement. But not the one she envisions. There are indisputably problems with the Men's Rights movement and corrections need to be made. The degree to witch the MRM is anti-feminist is questionable (it should be anti-feminist, but it's a question of degree). We need to do a better job parsing what Men's Rights Problems are CAUSED by feminism, What problems are not caused by feminists, but protected by feminists and what problems are just not really related to feminism at all.

We do need a better Men's Rights Movement, and that is what we are working towards in this sub.

yelirbear · 2014-12-17T00:16:35+00:00

Just another cunt who thinks that the biggest issue men have is struggling with "what it means to be a man".

Why do cunts think this way? Because if this is the problem, then the solution is obviously changing "what it means to be a man", and nothing gets these barren cunts more wet than fantasizing about changing men, mainly for the benefit of women.

Fucking cunts.

guywithaccount · 2014-12-16T23:25:27+00:00

Well, I think Nancy needs to stop telling men what they need to do to advocate for themselves.

Manwithyourlamps · 2014-12-17T07:32:25+00:00

To be honest there should just be a "gender equality movement" right? Because if men have major movement in the coming years, it will just make women inferior again, not want we want. Same thing if women have movement prior to a major mens rights movement. It will just be a back and forth conflict that will never end unless we have a general non gender specific movement. But then again, from what I've seen so called "feminists" seem to be extremely stubborn about their views and wouldn't change them unless it meant their life. Same thing with male rights activists if they gain a lot of power and MRM gains national attention and such. I'm not trying to assume here, just making a guess on what could happen in the future.

2014-12-17T11:00:24+00:00

So much blatant dishonesty in this article.

As an example:

Many marriages end in divorce, and though it’s difficult to nail down a precise statistic, about a third of divorces are initiated by women (PDF)

You click the source she gives and...? The source directly contradicts her statement.

I also love how there are vague references to the pay gap... without actually saying 'pay gap'. She knows everybody knows that the pay gap is bullshit by now.

MereMale101 · 2014-12-17T02:00:02+00:00

We need a better MRM; one without all the female dead weight would be a start.

Men need to start standing up for ourselves; having women "legitimise" our cause by speaking out merely emphasises just how little respect and regard for men society has.

Title	Nancy Kaffer Says Men Need A Better Men’s Rights Movement
Author	desmay
Upvotes	16
Comments	32
Date	December 16, 2014 10:14 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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