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80/20

puddingdesperation
December 4, 2022
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If 80/20 is trye, why aren't humans getting progressively more attractive, if anything they are uglier but 80/20 suggests only people with certain features will breed, in theory this would show itself as certain features being fixated in a population like how cat and dog breeds, and arguably even different ethnicities came to be, but we aren't seeing anymore beautiful women/girls or handsome men/boys than we did in 16th century

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Title 80/20
Author puddingdesperation
Upvotes 2
Comments 48
Date December 4, 2022 9:57 AM UTC (3 months ago)
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[–]EnteFetz 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The problem is that attractive people usually use contraceptives.

Attractive people have it easier to have sex, but have no pressure to have children.

While unnatractive people fear to be alone again so they make babies with other unnatractive people.

Poor and unnatractive people who are able to get laid have more children than attractive people who have sex every day.

Chads with 3 digit body counts can have 0 children nowadays, but an ugly 2/10 dude can have 10 children with his obese girlfriend.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Except that Beta Billy provider often needs to get a paternity test for his kids because she cheated with Chad and Beta Billy's kids aren't actually his.

[–]Jihocech_Honza 2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

They are. Thera are studies about growing attractivness of women because of that.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Also, gen z are on average much taller than the past generations.

[–]puddingdesperation[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Barely taller from milennials

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

i find female celebs from older eras prettier and more feminine

and even then, why would this make only females more attractive? attractive features are often attractive on both genders

[–]Jihocech_Honza 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

female celebs from older eras prettier

Prettier, not more attractive.

They were prettier because of their confidence in femininity, because of hair styles and make ups that supported femininity (and not fighting patriarchy), because od strenght grounded in weakness.

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not better features either

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

80/20 means given freedom and fiscal independence, women would rather share the top 20% of men, volunatarily. Women still depend on men for fiscal security in the nations with the highest birth rates meanwhile women who share chad in 1st world nations abort their children and use protection because kids are expensive.

[–]puddingdesperation[S] -1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

European girls or guys aren't getting hotter compared to past either if that's what you are getting at

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

No... because those women, like I said, are aborting chad's kids in their youths and are settling for Billy betabux and reproucing with him at 35. At least that was the norm for the most part. Do you get what I'm saying?

[–]puddingdesperation[S] -2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Betabux isn't common in richer countries anymore, most young women from european and northeast asian countries are honest about choosing for looks now

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

So? Doesn't mean they won't either have to settle or accept pump and dump eternally. A lot choose betabux and a lot choose to be pumped and dumped forever. The ones who choose pump and dump are not going to obviously have kids because it's expensive

[–]puddingdesperation[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

or maybe 80/20 is cope

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW and self-impoverished janny 0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

genetic recombination + near-zero selection pressure on females

[–]puddingdesperation[S] -3 points-2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Cope my dad was obese nosecel post wall subhuman

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW and self-impoverished janny 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

yes, that is one individual

my mother is obese nosecel postwall cluster B personality disorder soup subhuman and my father mogs the shit out of her

[–]puddingdesperation[S] -2 points-1 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Most i see are subhuman men with average woman

Attractive men get together with attractive women, though attractive women also go for betabux

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW and self-impoverished janny 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

(2) you calling them subhuman might very well be a confirmation of 80/20 on account of your lack of Y chromosomes

i might buy this if i had some objective measure of how attractive the men you're discussing were and if they were really the majority you've seen or only the majority that stuck to your mind

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

U'm some autistic subhuman femcel on reddit myself i barely have a gender i'm not a normal girl

Also i literally live in Turkey if a guy is good looking here hes probably gay

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW and self-impoverished janny 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

well you overrate women and underrate men

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think most women are also not pretty or any orettier than they were years ago

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[–]debatelord_1 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Genetics are only one part of the equation. Humans are eating more and more processed foods with not enough protein and micronutrients and too much fat/sugar/salt etc. Hence everyone gets more fat and ugly.

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

i'm not talking merely about fatness, skinny or thin people don't particularly look prettier/hotter either.

also, fatness can also be genetic, some people might eat far more than most do, but end up with an underweight bmi

[–]debatelord_1 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Worse foods and not enough micronutrients will make ugly humans. All these chincels with a recessed jaw line have it because they didn't develop correctly in the womb.

[–]moresleepy1 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

your wrong people were way uglier than they are now. fucked up rotten teeth fucked up skin way less attractive people in their 30s than now.

[–]noonereadsthisstuff 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Who's to say we aren't? Were you around in the 15th century?

We know that people are getting taller with every generation so that must tell you things are changing.

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

tall alone=/=attractive, and even that can be explained by famine not being a factor anyymore.

[–]noonereadsthisstuff 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

But it does signify that people are changing, and famine hasn't been a problem in parts of the world for hundreds of years but people have still been getting taller.

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

zoomers aren't necessarily taller than milennials, and many parts of the world have been getting better economically still. (such as, china or india)

[–]HateSpeechFanBoy 0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy Link

Evolution takes hundreds of thousands of years to millions of years for there to be any noticeable change

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

selective breeding isn't neccessaily evolution, for example dog breeds were made in a far shorter time than that.

[–]HateSpeechFanBoy 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

Humans are not selectively breeding, after the Nazis that is seen as morally reprehensible. Dogs, horses and other domestic animals are very specifically selected and their lifetimes are a lot less so there are a lot more generations. Nothing like that happens in homo sapiens

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

If women only bred with men that had certain features then it would be selective breeding technically.

[–]HateSpeechFanBoy 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Thankfully in most of the world and for a lot of history, females had babies with who they were told to. As a result there is no selective breeding and there never will be inshallah

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Depends on the women, i'd say richer women, especially european ones had more choice, do they look better now than they did years ago? Not really

[–]HateSpeechFanBoy 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Richer European females were married off strategically to form alliances and keep more land.

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

There's also the fact that meaning of beauty changed so much, this was found beautiful in iran: https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/zce0ah/colorized_photo_of_her_highness_the_princess_of/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[–]HateSpeechFanBoy 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Lol no, they only said she was beautiful cause she is a royal?

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Cope mena girls are often hairier than normal because their men found stupid shit like facial hair beautiful.

[–]SmarmyPapsmears 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

What kind of data do you have on this? By all scientific studies, men are taller than prior generations and women have more neotenous features. So I would argue each generation does become more attractive.

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Tallness doesn't mean more attractive necessarily if the guy looks soy., and neoteny isn't a big part of european beauty standards until very recently, though i think nowadays females have more androgynous or masculine features despite the neoteny.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

yeah, i'd rather date a 5'6 guy i consider sexually confident in his masculinity and knows his role as a man than a 6'2 soyboy is too lazy to go after what he wants since he prefers watchin porn all day.

just looks alone, a 7/10 5'6 guy over a 4/10 6'2 guy >>>>>

[–]SmarmyPapsmears 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Have you ever seen a picture from 100 years ago?

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

yes

[–]FortniteAbobusWhitePill 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

They do. Average height is increased.

[–]puddingdesperation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

height doesn't mean much if the average guy looks more ''soy''

plus hegiht could easily be explained by socio-economic factors and nutrition

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