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Sciencekokorwqac/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 12:29 PM
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Discussionkokorwqac/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 05:16 PM
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Debatekokorwqac/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 01:53 PM
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kokorwqac/r/AllPillDebate01/10/22 06:48 AM
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kokorwqac/r/AllPillDebate27/10/22 09:19 AM
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kokorwqac/r/AllPillDebate29/09/22 10:50 AM
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Question For Menkokorwqac/r/AllPillDebate20/09/22 03:06 PM
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Question For Menkokorwqac/r/AllPillDebate17/08/22 07:06 AM
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Question For Menkokorwqac/r/AllPillDebate13/08/22 05:35 AM
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kokorwqac/r/AllPillDebate14/10/22 08:13 AM
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kokorwqac/r/AllPillDebate05/10/22 04:01 AM
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kokorwqac/r/AllPillDebate20/09/22 06:21 PM
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Whitepill Discussionkokorwqac/r/AllPillDebate22/08/22 09:39 AM
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Question For Menkokorwqac/r/AllPillDebate15/08/22 06:23 AM
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kokorwqac/r/AllPillDebate30/09/22 10:41 PM
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kokorwqac/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 10:41 AM
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kokorwqac/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 07:26 AM
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kokorwqac/r/AllPillDebate11/10/22 02:28 PM
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kokorwqac/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 06:18 PM
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Question For Menkokorwqac/r/AllPillDebate14/09/22 09:22 PM
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kokorwqac/r/AllPillDebate06/11/22 10:44 AM
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Sciencekokorwqac/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 11:39 AM
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kokorwqac/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 07:19 AM
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kokorwqac/r/AllPillDebate29/09/22 12:04 PM
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Redpill Discussionkokorwqac/r/AllPillDebate17/08/22 06:57 AM
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kokorwqac/r/AllPillDebate17/10/22 07:35 AM
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kokopostkokorwqac/r/AllPillDebate26/11/22 10:19 AM
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Free For All Discussionkokorwqac/r/AllPillDebate27/09/22 09:57 AM
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Whitepill Discussionkokorwqac/r/AllPillDebate22/08/22 07:29 PM
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Discussionkokorwqac/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 01:11 PM
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kokorwqac/r/AllPillDebate15/11/22 10:55 AM
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kokorwqac/r/AllPillDebate23/10/22 09:48 PM
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kokorwqac/r/AllPillDebate21/10/22 11:32 AM
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kokorwqac/r/AllPillDebate01/10/22 08:24 AM
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Blackpill Discussionkokorwqac/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 04:22 PM
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looks natural to me tbh
/r/AllPillDebate14/12/22 07:22 PM
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you're postwall milennial
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 07:08 PM
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was she postwall? sometimes postwall japanese women go for foreigners since japanese dont like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 05:44 PM
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true but 5/10 japanesecel gets shit in sea as well, or arabcel, or anyone really.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 05:44 PM
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no, not ET he's an actual korean dude. also, can you not type about your sexual life everytime? it's disturbing.
/r/AllPillDebate14/12/22 05:31 PM
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you never know these days.
/r/AllPillDebate26/11/22 10:58 AM
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Muh i hate women not being submissive sex doll Muh having a degree and working is masculine
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 02:17 PM
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It can also be medical ilness or just lower metabolism
/r/AllPillDebate25/11/22 02:04 PM
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There are obese men with skinny wives too, my dad and mom were once this before she got fat but fatness isn't a part of woman's character or behaviour.
/r/AllPillDebate25/11/22 01:58 PM
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But isn't this a man's fault for not caring about a woman's character? And i disagree, most men do care about a woman's personality to some extent, it's only weirdos or desperate incels who see men in this way.
/r/AllPillDebate25/11/22 01:28 PM
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i'm not drowning in attention bro, unless its from online degenerates. ''women's race and height'' most men don't like 6ft or dark skinned women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 01:02 PM
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nah there are black, curry or chinese/korean guys who do this as well it's greencard
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 01:01 PM
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they have 6/10 faces with a lot of makeup and decoration.
/r/AllPillDebate24/11/22 12:55 PM
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Older conservative is probably in her 60's rn
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 09:43 AM
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men are also effected by media and stereotypes, there's a lot of media fetishization of asian women too, in fact, there were more white men going for african women than asian women before hollywood became prominent. the link i sent didn't have western men marrying with the local women at a high or noticeably higher at all number either(which was originally the reason i sent it), so i don't see your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 07:11 PM
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Because media and stereotypes override logic, nowadays there's more media that shows asian men as attractive or respectable compared to before(such as netflix having asian drama) so they see it as cooler or more trendy. You can't really tell without raw stats on either, just trying to say your preferences especially in this global world aren't that persistent either: https://www.vice.com/en/article/7kbmva/chinese-obsession-ukrainian-women-russia-invasion they also hype up ukrainian women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 07:00 PM
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I'm honestly seeing asian men and white women pairing grow more in gen z too though, especially in tiktok for some reason,i wouldn't say it's a unicorn anymore and will likely be even more prominent in 2030's. Let's see i guess. I have a feeling i will be vindicated a while later. Chinese men actually go to africa btw:https://africansonchina.com/why-do-stories-of-fatherless-chinese-kids-in-africa-disempower-african-women/ Linking because i think you said why they don't go to africa before(?)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 06:53 PM
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Most white men don't marry asian women either, it's mainly a loud minority
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 06:44 PM
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In group preference among races and also having largely homogenous countries? Everyone mostly prefers their own race, but asian women mostly marrying asian men(especially in countries that are actually largely asian) doesn't really mean they are popular with non-asian women. Though as i said this is changing among gen z and i'm seeing more and more examples of such couples in media,it could turnaround in future, who knows? Well majority of european women, especially surprisingly the more ''woke'…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 06:36 PM
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korea is the only country where the men are popular, and it's coincidetally also the only asian country where intermarriage is equal or moreso men's doing recently, i'm tryin to say that white women not liking asian men is a bigger factor than the reverse, thus your argument is flawed until we start to see white women being more open to asian or foreign guys. so isn't it about white women not desiring asian men, than the reverse? when you equalize it, they both like whites. the source is officia…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:42 PM
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The stats prove my point that there isn't 10 times more euro guys going for korean girls as the only high number of western guys they married were ''korean-american' ' , it means that the number is either equal or that possibly they are marrying more white or non-asian girls. (also korean men are hıgrly popular in sea and japan, that is a factor) you said euro guys going for and marrying korean women were 10 times more common than the reverse... waht the stats actually show is that it is far mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 04:56 PM
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It wasn't about competition, the dude i know matched with like 80 korean girls then thought the blonde model was prettier and generally didn't like asian women much. They don't go for white women because white women usually don't like asian men (something incels make fun of asian men for) .. Not hard to make the connection. But this is changing in newer generations, which brings me to: you're wrong about the stats of marriage too, maybe if this was in usa or if this was in older generations. But…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 08:54 AM
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More like i don't have time to discuss this extensively But average asian women mainly get lower tier guys, while you can see top tier guys of sll races with white women or liking white women. You see a lot of dudes saying they get more matches in an asian country while in a western one, they get often no matches. A lot of asian women are open to foreign men, including higher tier ones, why aren't chaddy guys going after them or at least, expressing the desire to? Indian dudes getting with white…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 08:36 AM
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Meh whatever i don't have time for this. We can all agree that it's mainly lower tier guys who go for asian or non-western women right? Then why should this be a proof that asian women are more desirable? If they were more desirable they would get top tier guys. I wouldn't have an issue with the statements if they just admitted it was that they were easier to deal with or date, not because that they were secretly more desirable or a few weirdos pretending to worship them
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 08:18 AM
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Well, the so called? ''conservative' ' asian countries you speak of have a lot of hookers and thrive of off sex tourism. They also can't detect red flags well. Asian women also have higher rates of STD than other kind of women in america statistically. Incel forums themselves will say ' 'go to southeast asia' ' before deckaring yourself an incel My point is that a lot of them idealize asian women because actual conservative or traditional ones like arab women or women from orthodox christian cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 07:58 AM
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If they are lower tier why should western women care about losing their lower tier stock? That's why. A lot of asian women either idealize white features, culture or are ''easier to bag' ' in general(even compared to lower tier white girls) , as well as being less ' 'intimidating' ' for beta-ish guys for their assumed submissiveness and simpleness, asian men also care way less about foreign men dating asian women, (black men call them bedwenches, latam is sort of dangerous and has their men kill…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 07:29 AM
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They generally are either nerdy beta losers that think women seeming somewhat complex are intimidating, military boomers or bisexual femboy lovers that think asian women resemble femboys for some reason from experience, not the top tier of men.(surprisingly, the non-asian women i seen that liked asian men were far more normal for some reason) The post is about attractiveness, a lot of men would fuck a pretty girl with less than ideal personality, but that being said not all western women are rad…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 07:12 AM
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Most western men go for non-western women because of assumed easiness or ''submissiviness' ' not that they are particularly beautiful or that they are revered for their personality characteristics or culture. I highly doubt the 60 year old fat boomer with 18 year old thai wife is that respectful to the culture or the woman herself. With the globalization, a lot of foreign men are open to western women(they are practically worshipped in india and pakistan, africans don't mind them, and i've seen …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 06:56 AM
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I'd also like to add that many non western men indeed like white features or even prefer them, it's just that going for an eastern man is shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 06:33 AM
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A lot of non-white men(actually pretty much all non white races of men) prefer or idealize white female features. There indeed are non-western men like that, it's just that going for an eastern man is shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 06:30 AM
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I like clean shaven, though most guys at 18 do have some facial hair
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:53 PM
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Most men at 30's are also broke now
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:24 PM
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Men at 17-18 look better than 30, which is what matters when most of you guys don't even breed
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 02:23 PM
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Most men start norwooding at late 20's Media just gives old men more leeway since ugly men getting with prettier women is more common in media than reverse
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 09:33 AM
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There were also men that simped for female psychopaths or onlyfans whores though Females who simp for dark triads aren't the type of women that probably post on ppd
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 09:30 AM
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He could've gotten a better woman if he searched for more but people sometimes overrate 3/10 or masculine looking asian women for some reason, i even see some incels do this
/r/AllPillDebate22/11/22 05:52 AM
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.is dudes and looksmaxx dudes dislike any non-white women that doesn't fit ''PSL' ' standards, a lot of them also like 12 year olds for some reason
/r/AllPillDebate22/11/22 05:49 AM
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Even mark Zuckerberg has a partner tho, even if its an asian woman that somehow looks more masculine than him for some reason
/r/AllPillDebate22/11/22 05:44 AM
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Most incels have autisstic tastes, go to an incel forum and read
/r/AllPillDebate22/11/22 05:43 AM
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Cope my mom married an ugly man
/r/AllPillDebate22/11/22 05:42 AM
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Most men i knew like this personally went gay at some point, not valuing character is a sign of bisexuality. Also you realize you will be too wrinkly to fuck young women at some point yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 06:24 AM
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How many people do you know that are having kids at 21? I also just had a convo with someone who valued casual relationships more than romantic love and still preferred younger girls. Again fertility is cope
/r/AllPillDebate21/11/22 06:20 AM
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Yes i have the same energy for them, even then they don't usually bash relationships or men who don't look like teenage boys the same way men do, at the very least they mind their own business even if they are immoral and stupid. It is more profound to have love than emotionless nutting because... How is that different from fucking a femboy?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 06:19 AM
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I wish i was judged for things other than my looks, because i was judged for looks even when i was asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 06:11 AM
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This includes specific kind of genetics, the twinky face and build is part of the look.
/r/AllPillDebate21/11/22 06:08 AM
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What is good about empty emotionless nutting without any intent for love? it's no different from fucking a feminine looking man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 06:03 AM
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Are you non nt? Other than that irl>online for majority
/r/AllPillDebate20/11/22 09:45 PM
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I would call it less ''bravado' ' but moreso confidence, this is also one of the reason why blackpill/reddit stuff making people neurotic is actually more harmful to them than helpful by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 07:13 AM
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This isn't a blackpill or bluepill post, im just saying i see this look get attention a lot
/r/AllPillDebate20/11/22 05:59 AM
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Just aesthetically not touching Also i didn't say 12
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 05:52 AM
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Suicide rates are disproportionately high among elders. That's one detail a lot of people forget
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:44 AM
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They don't want traditional women, they want '' easy access'' and look for asian women because ones in the west find them unnattractive, (and many asian women are open to foreign men, while asian men care about this less than most men would) That's literally what they mean by traditional
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:42 AM
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Men like dumb '' submissive'' women with low standards, their fault for liking the easy way out
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:32 AM
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They are the same as the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:28 AM
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It's less about ''chad' ' but more about Housing being damn expensive for the kids, marriage rate is similar to the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:27 AM
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West is already there, it's just that they have a lot of immigrants who breed more. Marriage rate is also similar to the west, it's less about ''chad' ' but more about people not being able to afford kids, effect of industrialization. Sk' s suicide rate is also overly inflated by +60 to +80 age group... Similar to the west but even more extreme gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:26 AM
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Cope
/r/AllPillDebate16/11/22 06:46 AM
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You're coping this was men back then: https://images.app.goo.gl/zKn1S1ri9KbxDL6Q7 Also beauty standards for women also got neotenized why no one notices this?
/r/AllPillDebate16/11/22 06:45 AM
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average to somewhat tall
/r/AllPillDebate15/11/22 09:36 PM
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idk, men lose their prettiness and generally don't groom themselves, at least women at 30 remain some of it, even if they mostly look better younger too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 09:36 PM
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the comment was there from the start, read the person i replied to. ugly girls aren't valuable from my experience, they can get ''sex' sure, but on status they are lower and don't get respect for their achievements, which is honestly worse than not getting sex.
/r/AllPillDebate15/11/22 08:08 PM
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the person i originally replied to before you, said that this was the ultimate blackpill because her male counterpart would be the ''bottom rung of the society'' which is originally the reason why i replied in the first place.
/r/AllPillDebate15/11/22 07:52 PM
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it feels like i'm talking to oldcel milennials here sometimes
/r/AllPillDebate15/11/22 07:47 PM
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and? she's not allowed to have standards because she's ugly, while incels who haven't done anything worthwhile in their lives can write whatever about women? her male counterpart wouldn't be the bottom rung of the society due to her success and money, that part you forgot.
/r/AllPillDebate15/11/22 07:44 PM
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people are shamed for ''voicing their distaste of lizzo'' not neccessarly not being attracted to her for cardi b. that's because black women dating white men is shamed more than the reverse, if a white women said she doesn't date black men, or a black women said she preferred white men, they would be cancelled. and nah, i don't see women like what you said about body counts unless you interact with radfems.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 07:42 PM
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17 year old men looking better than 30 year old ones was a brutal blackpill for me
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 07:27 PM
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probably yes honestly
/r/AllPillDebate15/11/22 04:45 PM
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i've seen feminine white men too, also those 4chan asian fetishists often like even white femboys like f1nsster, dimitri monroe or frank wolf before he died, so it isn't even asian men's looks specifically. in comparison, girls who like asian guys, from my observations don't tend to be bisexual anymore than girls who like white or black men do tend to be.
/r/AllPillDebate15/11/22 03:03 PM
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​ i don't hate it, i'm just theorizing why men who like asian women in particular go bi, why are these two things connected? and even if it was straight, i don't want to hear people's sexual obsessions out of nowhere, there's a time and place for those things. i don't really care about height that much as much as i care for face and personality...
/r/AllPillDebate15/11/22 02:55 PM
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literally googling hot boys on youtube and on first result look like twink doomer wojak: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KiS8\_XfiKA
/r/AllPillDebate15/11/22 02:50 PM
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dude don't post your sexual fetishes everywhere we don't want too hear it out of context everytime. i meant more in the sense that guys who like east asian women, are also likely to like femboys,troons or men in some kind of form in general than guys who like white or black women, i honestly have no idea why is that.
/r/AllPillDebate15/11/22 02:49 PM
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i'm just saying this type(whether white or east asian) slays young women in 2022, don't really care about your yellow fever. also this is adding more and more to my suspicions that yellow fever and bisexuality are somehow connected, i really don't know why.
/r/AllPillDebate15/11/22 02:42 PM
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this isnt even me posting my taste, this is legit what i see trending.
/r/AllPillDebate15/11/22 01:57 PM
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​ cope i see more girls in my college who like emo goth twinks or kpop boys than henry cavill type
/r/AllPillDebate15/11/22 01:27 PM
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cope i see more girls in my college who like emo goth twinks or kpop boys than henry cavill type
/r/AllPillDebate15/11/22 01:26 PM
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How is this related to this post
/r/AllPillDebate15/11/22 11:54 AM
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Many men called him ''gay' '' 'twink' ' or' 'soyboy' ' Still slay' d
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 11:15 AM
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There are also white men who men find too feminine or weird but get simped over, noen eubanks is an example... Or even prime Justin Bieber
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:51 AM
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Or better, they should've used actual people
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:47 AM
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Just as women, maybe slightly less (which is still a lot)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:46 AM
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Pete davidson is.. Ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:30 AM
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He liked bbc porn
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 08:30 AM
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Men sometimes hype up ugly girls too if they are slutty or easy to lay for them. Women not validating them is the issue to them
/r/AllPillDebate15/11/22 08:08 AM
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She's a stanford graduate and rich, that gives her more status than anyone writing on this thread.
/r/AllPillDebate15/11/22 07:37 AM
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Then why do men get so surprised women care about the same things men like (looks or status?)
/r/AllPillDebate15/11/22 07:35 AM
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What i've been meaning to say is bill gates,trump, jonah hill, danny devito and other celebs aren't lusted despite being famous so it's not just status A lot of kpop idols aren't tall(though some are) have '' '' feminine'' faces (at least by men's standards) and even act cutesy sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 06:59 AM
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if that was the case michael cera would be fawned over since he was famous, doesn't work that way without the looks though right? also you say this is a niche but i see more kpop fans in my college than ones who like chris hemsworth looks, tiktok is the most used app among zoomers and what trends here usually isn't super masc... at all. chad in 2022 looks like this: https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/035/981/EPlwBwIXsAAwfCH.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:22 PM
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there are shorter or skinnier dudes that appeal to women too, prince or your generic edgy emo twink guy of 2020's are examples
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:12 PM
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sometimes females like goofy features, despite the belief but its honestly status and role too
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:45 PM
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kylo ren has a weird appeal to female gaze, dont ask
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:39 PM
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rank smv of things under dog,5/10 guy and 12 year old boy
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/22 07:43 PM
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Fucked a mare
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/22 12:58 PM
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They are the majority, unnattractive guys can betabuxx or date ugly 2/10 girls but no one wants that
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/22 10:37 AM
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There was an incel on incel forum that ''maremaxxed' ' because he couldn't get a white girl Extreme example but standardcels exist and are the majority
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/22 10:33 AM
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You're in incel forums most men ignore non NT women and focus on tinder whores
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/22 10:29 AM
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Normie men have standards too
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/22 10:26 AM
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Ftx?
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/22 07:07 AM
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Water
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 06:51 AM
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Japanese women cheat on their husbands with hosts, imagine thinking countries like japan or korea are that much different from the west in 2022 lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 06:45 AM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 09:56 PM
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You're assuming they had a choice...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 09:47 PM
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How about flat girls
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 09:42 PM
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Photoshopped male models looksmaxx org users post, as well as dark triad low inhib thugs supposedly
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 09:39 PM
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Pale skinned women are desired more as well...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 08:30 PM
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i don't mean just fetishism, some dudes want attractive white women or just white women overall, but white girls have higher standards than asian girls so they ''settle'' with asian women. i say this because i've seen copers here say asian girls have higher SMV or are liked more than white girls, not admitting that asian was the only choice many guys have.
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/22 04:45 PM
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they usually get the leftover mediocre non-asian dudes,like the guy in that topic above average asian dudes also have high beauty standards, so they go for stacy asian girls too. again, you also sound like a leftover who white girls don't like, which proves asian girls have lower smv again. i've never seen a high status dude go specifically for asian as his type(might ve still iked them, that is different from having a type.)
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/22 04:12 PM
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it's different in gen z, , i honestly see more kpop fans than chris hemsworth fans in my college.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 06:39 AM
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i was under the impression most people wanted harry and hermione.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 06:47 PM
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its hard to be a 3/10 in anime style tbh, even with the blandest design they all end up either being prettyboys or 1/10 ugly bastards rarely.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 06:36 PM
1

psychopaths... simp a lot actually
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 05:05 PM
0

his style looks bland
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 05:01 PM
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i've def seen people get horny over kpop idols or other ''feminine'' celebrities/e-boys though especially in gen z while some disliked dudes that looked too rough, i think this question is a ''your mileage may vary'' thing rather than a huge generilazation.'s answer
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 10:13 AM
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women generally shit on men overall though, they usually don't idolize men from different countries. also theres a difference between liking other races and shitting on your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:58 AM
1

prettyboys are just the male counterpart of girls that are cutesy and petite lolita-ish types.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 08:14 PM
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i'dd argue men are gayer than women tbh, the popularity of ''femboys'' is telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 08:11 PM
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prettyboys are usually just masculine looks+neoteny, not true feminintiy i'd argue men are just as bisexual as women considering the popularity of ''femboys'' ''trans/shemale'' category and prison rape phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 08:10 PM
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american men and wmen are counterparts of each other, all jokes aside(im half joking with all this shit) men or women from other countries are irrevelant, usually men and women from same countries look equal to each other for example ''landwhales'' both american men and women have a lot of landwhales, but the attractive ones don't have trouble finding the right ones, shitting on women or men from your own country usually means you're ugly yourself. i do think women are slightly prettier due to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 08:07 PM
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no new generationof sexy men outside of tiktok or abroad either.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 04:06 PM
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A lot of american men complain about american women being ''landwhales' ' but they themselves are also landwhales and uglier than a lot of foreign men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 11:36 AM
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Guys also defend fat guys while call fat women landwhales. Not that i defend fatness on either gender
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 08:21 AM
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Most girls i know liked by men also have similar features, liking ''thicc' ' vs' 'skinny' ' is literally the only variation.
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/22 08:15 AM
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Jungkook is the most popular one, pretty much all kpop dudes are also made fun of for looking feminine or boyish, although i wouldn't call most of them exactly natural looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 08:10 AM
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Most girls i see prefer skinny e boys
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 08:09 AM
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Nope, it's about youth or teen-like features not femininity Teen boys don't look feminine only pederasts think that. Teen boys are prettier than 40 year old women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 07:36 AM
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What you forget is american men are ugly as hell too though, european and northeast asian men look much better, so american men deserve to be cucked. The super pretty korean you speak of only exists in korea itself anyway(actually a minority even there) so it doesn't really matter what happens in usa, though there are expat women in korea or some other countries
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 07:31 AM
1

Pretty is masculine mixed with neoteny
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 07:18 AM
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American men started fetishizing foreign women first though, they also defend fat and ungroomed men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 07:16 AM
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Most korean men aren't celebrity tier or use makeup lol... I would agree they probably look better than american men regardless though. I hope they cuck y'all
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 07:15 AM
1

I think it's women grooming more + having more neoteny
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 07:11 AM
1

Women still age better than men due to neoteny though, im in college and honestly high school guys looked better
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 07:10 AM
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I think women grooming themselves more compared to men(makeup, skin care, plastic surgery) and having more neoteny (kids are prettier than adults typically) helps, tho im still ugly as a woman so who cares
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 07:09 AM
1

Anime is normie stuff nowadays tbh
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/22 06:27 AM
1

i mean %80 of porn is ugly dudes fucking conventionally atractive girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 03:42 PM
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Btw i noticed something, white women that are skinny usually look more gracile and thin than asian women, asian women are naturally stockier, this is why kpop and jpop idols usually have 16-17 bmi to look frail and thin, whereas for european women, they would look like that at 19 bmi. Also the quality of men that go for them is also important, average white women can get beautiful asian, white, black or any other ethnicity men, whereas a non stacylite asian women usually have very undesirable, m…
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/22 09:58 AM
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I did send the official tc chandler channel and billboard.com,didn't know they were china owned. Go run like a coward, you know edgerunners is an anime right? These are anime cosplayers you are sperging about you 40 year old virgin.
/r/BlackPillScience09/11/22 09:50 AM
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I did send the official tc chandler channel and billboard.com,didn't know they were china owned. Go run like a coward, you know edgerunners is an anime right? These are anime cosplayers you are sperging about you 40 year old virgin.
/r/BlackPillScience09/11/22 09:37 AM
3

There are, manic pixie dream girl is a trope aimed at men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 07:52 AM
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Black men are already overrepresented compared to black women in media if anything though, black culture is pretty mainstream as entertainment. Even if whites are the ''masters' '
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 07:50 AM
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There is, tons of male centered movies have love interest subplots.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 07:26 AM
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Womanizer=/=dark triad
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/22 05:16 AM
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Romance for ''men' ' not for women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 05:15 AM
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There are also many movies or shows with fat dumb men and smart thin wives, doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 08:03 PM
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There's no romance for men with average woman either, no one watches escapism fantasy for average or undesirable people, you guys sound like ''landwhales' ' complaining about thinner girls having an advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 07:59 PM
1

muh biology is CIA pushing something being proven not at least somewhat suspicious to you?
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/22 07:14 PM
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That doesn't say which country
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 12:57 PM
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Foreign as in? Where are you from?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 12:45 PM
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Not infertility, infidelity for both
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 08:10 AM
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I'm not every woman in the world, i wouldn't know why she did it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 05:17 AM
2

R/ladyboners are usually either gay dudes or milennial older women, tiktok is probably more representative of what women under 30 like these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 06:03 PM
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It can be, kids and animals are beautiful without being sexually attractive, or plants, inanimate objects, you get it. That being said there are a lot of women that find kpop dudes or other pretty dudes sexually appealing as i seen a lot of erotic content for them, sexual appeal isn't a one size fits all thing and everyone finds different things sexual(sometimes things they shouldn't sexualize at all.)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 06:02 PM
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i don't like her either
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/22 05:05 PM
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no you're just a weirdo fetishist
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/22 03:48 PM
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i'm not white bro it's because you are... just read your post it's not coming normal to anyone
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/22 01:29 PM
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Hope you're not offended by my comment on this thread...
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/22 11:13 AM
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They don't dislike men getting advices, it's just that a lot of redpill üs stupid old boomer advices
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/22 11:07 AM
1

Dinosaur fossils actually exist
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/22 11:04 AM
1

Men don't like women liking ANYTHING anything with a female majority fanbase is riduvuled
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/22 11:02 AM
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Evo psych is speculation, not definite. There was also a theory about women liking feminine faces (a lot of women prefer pretty faces with somewhat ripped or low bodyfat bodies) because they would make better fathers, it's all bullshit in the end. You have to get me data on what kind of men were the most desirable historically, not in modern times or evo psych theories.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/22 10:58 AM
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Nothing about this says dark triad was an ideal before modernity and technology though, you didn't answer my question. Strong=/=dark triad, women needed men to protect herself and her kids, not to be a danger to her offspring.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/22 10:53 AM
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Your life is a short time period, im talking about it being socially engineered since urbamization.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/22 09:11 AM
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You say this but literally cia invented gangster rap: https://lulz.com/cia-agent-admits-agency-created-gangster-rap-otpflktp-271836/ Do you have any proof this isn't a recent invention made in urbanization times? And inherent, i'm waitibg for an argument.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/22 09:10 AM
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This is why i say asian women are actually lower smv than white women , these are the types of men they get
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/22 08:12 AM
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And i'm saying that preference is socially engineered.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/22 06:42 AM
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2021 isn't old data, data for anything in 2022 isn't even out you moron. Kpop isn't even at it's peak, or korean media in genral, remember squid game in 2021? Netflix bringing a bunch of korean media? Bts breaking 9 different billboards as number 1 in usa was also in 2022, you forgot to read that link? Hashtags aren't confirmation bias when it's millions of people posting in it in the most mainstream website young people use(do you know how popular it is?) did you even look at how many posterss …
/r/BlackPillScience07/11/22 05:37 AM
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and i'm saying dark triad is socially engineerd trend, rather than an organic one, doesn't change my point
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/22 09:26 PM
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Agreed.
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/22 01:07 PM
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because they aren't shown as the ideal male in media.
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/22 12:12 PM
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''I had to look up what BTS was. Kpop is on the way out, though even at its peak it was already considered something for undesirable people with no social life in their home country.'' https://cdn.cms-twdigitalassets.com/content/dam/blog-twitter/official/en_us/insights/2021/k-pop-august-2021/conversationgrowth.png.img.fullhd.medium.png if it's on the way out, why is the news and graph showing the searches and kpop related tweets are increasing by each year? answer this. i talk to young females m…
/r/BlackPillScience06/11/22 11:35 AM
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A vocal minority + society still promotes bad boy behaviour+ feminism made a lot of the ''good guy'' ones beta.
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/22 11:07 AM
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and i'm saying this is a socially engineered preference to be widespread, did you read my link where it tells gangster rap and hip-hop were literally invented by CIA?
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/22 10:56 AM
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BTS is breaking records on albums, tc chandler is choosing asian men as their top 100's or even winnners since 2019, majority of women in america are fat and ugly in the first place, but european girls like asian men more than american women, and they are usually more attractive than american girls. kpop isn't on the way out either: stats show search for kpop is increasing further on twitter: https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/insights/2021/kpop-sets-another-record-on-twitter-with-7-billion-t…
/r/BlackPillScience06/11/22 07:45 AM
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They will grow up to be that way, gen z is even more into sjw lgbt feminist stuff than milennials are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 03:21 PM
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Again not the same thing, stop browsing incels is or radfem forums Nah, gen z is pozzed lgbt feminist cesspool and gen alpha are lolies
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:45 PM
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They also repeatedly say ''post-wall' ' are younger women any less entitled?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:27 PM
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So women aren't shitting on men based on aging but men are, oroving my point
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:25 PM
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Again you are making incel rants that i'm simply not interested in, men shit on older women saying that how they are post-wall and used up, crazy cat ladies, that teenage girls are much more attractive etc regularly, do you ever see a woman unironically suggest that 15-19 year old boys look better than +30 year old men here or bash a man based solely on his age repeatedly?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:08 PM
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Men are the ones shitting on +30 year old women, not the reverse
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 02:59 PM
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I'm not trying to do an incel rant here or to dictate you date +30 year old women, i'm just genuinely curious why the idea of women naturally preferring youthful traits is weird to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 02:26 PM
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But they didn’t score that high on the gender equality index either(the absolute highest was iceland) , i don't know why it's weird to you guys that women like youthful traits, majority of men would prefer the looks of 16 year old girls to 35 year old women, why is women thinking the same so weird to you guys? Again, i don't really care if you date a younger woman but still.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 01:30 PM
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My point is they aren't any more ''matriarchal' ' than usa currently, especially not (south) korea
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:44 PM
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Leo himself is a good example of the wall, he peaked before 25
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:19 PM
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Australia and korea are somehow ''more' ' infested by feminist mind than usa or majority of european countries? I don't care about age gaps but come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:05 PM
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wrong, most of the white girls in korea are eastern european, who tend to be more conventionally attractive than the SEA girls white men date, they have more success kpop wasn't bigger, stats show it's more popular in 2021 than every year previously. just search up koreanboyfiend on tiktok to see cute girls.
/r/BlackPillScience03/11/22 10:45 AM
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If you really look very young for your age and your gf is at least out of her teen years, chances are most peopleü irl aren't going to care. Why are you seeking approval from random people on reddit? Are you actually being judged by people around you or just looking to argue on reddit? Genuinely curious i don't really care about age gaps
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 08:28 AM
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Maybe not specifically focused on age gaps but i honestly think there are a lot of bots and feds pushing some agendas(again not focused specifically on a topic, but just the possibility of ideas being pushed by outside forces) amongst whole internet, more than half of twitter are bots for ffs
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 09:13 PM
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I don't care about age gaps that much but you know comparing it to gay marriage or interracial is absurd. Onlyfans isn't supported by radfems, who are usually the ones who care about age gaps beyond the age of teenagers Most people don't really deny that women who like older men(as well as short or ethnic men) exist, it's just that redpill advice telling an 18 year old boy to wait to hit the age of 45 then he will be drowning in barely legal pussy is genuinely misleading him, far more than telli…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:57 PM
1

Most men who aren't fetishists or desperate don't like fat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:50 PM
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people get offended at this though, appearently everything is ''muh bioogy'' ''muh female true nature''
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/22 03:35 PM
1

Sasuke cucked naruto so he settles...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:14 AM
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It's because of neoteny, kids are usually prettier than adults and women have more neoteny. That being said beautiful men exist, but men are too lazy to dress well
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 04:22 PM
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And? It still means female sexlessness gone up
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:25 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/wa7m5q/new_statfemale_sexlessness_is_also_rising/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 09:04 AM
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And the one from 2022 reported women had less sex than men, now what?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 08:38 AM
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Men also settle and fuck ugly girls while thinking about stacy, settling isn't a gender alone thing. Most people will value conpatibility over pure sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 06:25 AM
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Most married men are ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:46 AM
-2

the same applies for sperm quality, in fact i think it only ever applies to males: https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21929275-500-mens-sperm-quality-decreases-at-age-35/
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:02 PM
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People weren't living shorter on average, it's moreso that wars and diseases killed them, but for people who avoided these, the life expectancy was still the same. Evo psych justifying social trends again
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:23 PM
1

Fertility doesn't lower drastically until 40
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:20 PM
2

What if it's an 30 year old virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:18 PM
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Isn't the wall becomes the banned ''c word' ' if men are also effected by it? Honestly i feel as if i already hit the wall since i wasted most of my life doing nothing, not even in a romantic or sexual way, just nothing useful. Ah at least i scored a college...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:15 PM
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The same could be said for white men, though white women are still highest smv women
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:08 PM
-2

Early 30's is far away from menopause, average age for it is 50
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:07 PM
1

Quora is full of feds
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/22 05:37 PM
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they are not ''traditional'' in the western sense as they have a fundamentally different culture from both modern and traditional western countries, also most asian countries are pretty much modernized now, especially the richer ones also asian women have more STD's than white women, this is actually what attracts a lot of the guys in a sense, get laid easier: https://www.bu.edu/ssw/understanding-stds-and-health-disparities-in-asian-american-communities/ again if feminism is the problem why go o…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:00 AM

You fuck your pets!??
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 08:40 PM
1

Central asia had the most equal rate. My theory is probably there's more women by percentage in central asia or other eastern countries like İran because the men do labour more(?)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 07:30 PM
1

Ken jeong is not only uglier than the average asian /korean man(also shorter too, younger koreans are pretty tall) but also mostly in pathetic/loser roles In comparison jared leto was better looking younger and had more status Jeno and most kpop celebs are of course prettier than your average asian, however being represented by good looking and ''cooler' ' people average asian smv haloe' s
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 06:57 PM
1

obligatory ''türk kızları kezban'' post sleeping around is degen
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/22 06:24 PM
1

yes i'm aware, im seeing more girls like asia guys tho compared to the past: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvmbrEQv1ms&t=1s
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 06:11 PM
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i never said that lol, but she looks either shopped or trans, idk as someone who looks at pictures of asian girls and guys, it looks ''fake'' somehow, maybe its a real girl, but probably shopped image.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/22 02:42 PM
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yes, men's attractiveness is also effected by media, never implied otherwise. the quarterback jock is a historically newer standard coming from urbanized western areas and women being ''square jawed or having angular features'' isn't really dependant on age either, i have a squarer jaw than my mom does. both young and older women can have this. though women also had some unbelievable standards, persians considered facial hair on women beautiful. https://english.alarabiya.net/life-style/fashion-a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 09:35 AM
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they are being abused though: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6084501/ if those qualities feminism brought are a problem, why don't men go to a christian or muslim country instead of SEA or latam?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 07:58 AM
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suicide from men's side is mostly older men other than that, everyoenes getting more depressed
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 07:44 AM
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because it's exploitation in a sense for some women and also disrespectful to men from these countries in a way. also a lot of men make excuses as to why they go to latam or SEA and not some christian or muslim country, iff ''tradition'' is something they care about. i'm not radfem, or even libfem.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 07:20 AM
1

yes it's true most women don't like men +20 years older than them, but older women usually date their age, not into teenagers or early 20's.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 07:16 AM
-2

what jealousy bro? swedish women are obviously more conventionally attractive than thai or flippina women, it's moreso that swedish men dislike the ''feminist'' attitudes over here, but can't find an easier option than southeast asian women, SEAmaxxing is literally a meme loser men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 07:14 AM
1

no one likes short balding men from any race.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 07:08 AM
-1

it's not even closeted racism, doing sex tourism in a country is disrespectful to the country itself. (but yes racist women exist, just as racist men exist) When compared to hyperfeminist women from developed nations, these women give a striking balance between modern and traditional that many men like. these countries aren't even traditional, especially in the western sense, if these guys wanted traditional they would go for women from christian or muslim countries, not something fundementally …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 07:07 AM
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It drops off in 40's,but never completely dies before menopause. Things like maturity, having a career, money or even acting masculine are all social concepts, you're contradicting your logic, i never denied social concepts could influence people, in fact i suggested it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 09:38 PM
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Early 20's do look similar to teens in the first place... At least for women Media and porn does idealize high school outfits, skinny or thin figures without caring about curves that much, light skin and hair(people are more likely to have lighter features pre puberty like blonde hair), somewhat neotenous faces overall, and older men younger women pairing is pushed much more in media than the reverse Teen is also a popular porn category and most e-girls of today have young looking faces, the onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 09:32 PM
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And why doesn't high quality genetics argument apply to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 07:28 PM
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And you didn't even touch my point about older men or juvenile features in women being idealized in media,great. Older men should technically see the same effect by the biology logic, and media programming and social norms effecting us also a part of evolutionary reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 07:20 PM
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And you didn't even touch my point about older men or juvenile features in women being idealized in media,great.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 07:19 PM
1

This is what i'm pointing out, i see gay shipping in female dominated spaces ALL the time
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/22 07:07 PM
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Evo psych is junk science, it's less about fertility and all that jazz and more about juvenile features being idealized for women in media, if the biology argument made sense at all then women would also prefer 18 year old boys or even younger over 40 year old men, since older men have lower quality sperm that could lead to diseased children. But it isn't what we see, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 07:06 PM
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It's also concern because said women usually come from poorer asian countries instead of richer ones and are usually victims of domestic abuse in hands of swedish man due to being stereotyped as ''submissive and easy' ' it's also just exploitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 06:56 PM
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Women can get pregnant in their 30's and 40's to a lesser extent, they just can't make +10 kids, but you guys are forgetting average european population is having 1 or 2 kids on average
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 06:52 PM
1

He's not really a femboy, you just have a case of yellow fever. To the point it makes you somewhat gay
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/22 04:51 PM
1

A femboy is a girly boy who can sorta pass as a girl, it's a crossdresser that is kinda ''cute' '
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/22 04:39 PM
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I had friends attracted to femboys they turned out to be attracted to androgynous men or twinks too after they indulged further and lost their homophobic feelings, i'm not really a feminist myself but honestly i don't really see why feminine males should be considered the same as women. Honestly the specific attraction to feminine boys and also racial fetishes usually stem from porn addiction too, that's also why people find these weird. I'd recommend to either lay off porn a little or indulge i…
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/22 03:05 PM
1

He got fat and still seen as attractive, my point
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/22 06:22 AM
1

Leonardo dicaprio is fat too now
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/22 06:19 AM
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I'm saying that more ''feminine and traditional' ' women in western sense will probably exists in actual christian or muslim countries, but thailand is more popular because it's easier to fuck here
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/22 06:18 AM
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In thailand black, asian or indian men can get shit too But it's not even worth bragging about either way tbh
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/22 06:14 AM
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In nowhere is having sex alone based on this, you guys are bragging about getting green card opportunists or leftovers.
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/22 06:11 AM
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Your peepeepoopoo will feel so good you will forget it
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/22 06:10 AM
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Bro i'm not even western
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/22 06:09 AM
1

go slay on grindr! or get slayed whichever is your thing.
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/22 09:23 PM
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i mean you dont have to be very feminine presenting, just show ass and dick
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/22 09:04 PM
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you're denying that 3/10 men have better chance of ''slaying there?'' and i don2t even mean white or western men only by that.
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/22 09:02 PM
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ok yellowfevercel i wonder if you could have the ''neo-colonization fetish'' if an attractive white woman looked at you
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/22 09:01 PM
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they can be, but come on, this is literally what SEAmaxxers themselves admit.
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/22 06:09 PM
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again you say this but men don't touch shit like makeup or fashion nearly as much as women, even though it helps.
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/22 06:02 PM
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easy lay as in asian women and other women from poorer countries have lower standards in a man, thailand wouldn't be a popular destination if girls here didn't get with 3/10 white,black, korean or whatever man.
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/22 05:59 PM
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as much as you're right most men aren't 5'10 and yours truly is 5'9 depends on the country and generation, young people in richer countries are 5'10-5'11 averaging out that is what my comment says yes attractive people do better than ugly people, surprise.
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/22 05:49 PM
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''submissive'' they aren't, this is just codeword for ''easy lay''
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/22 05:45 PM
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looks shopped tbh could also be troon, where is this?
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/22 05:12 PM
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Black and asian men can also geomaxx
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/22 04:38 PM
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>6ft only in tinder, irl most girls cant even tell diff between 5'10 and 6 ft >cauc is that why white men cry about black men all the time? even JBA/JBK is getting stronger statistically these days, if anything being a sh\tskin is worse for a woman. >young attractive young and attractive, not ''average'' young attractive men also do wel?
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/22 04:36 PM
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and they expect an onlyfans whore to be the ''low n count'' pure virginal wife over the nerdy chubby girl? again men are dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 12:46 PM
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i live in turkey seeing a 5/10 guy is like unicorn
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/22 11:43 AM
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Cope i see ugly men pretty women pairings in Turkey everyday
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/22 11:29 AM
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Speaking of İstanbul most turkish men are ugly and ungroomed tbh
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/22 11:20 AM
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Hair transplant exists
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/22 10:48 AM
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They don't have countries of economic or political power, china is, and japan was feared to surpass us economically before they put the plaza accord to prevent japan's economy from surpassing usa's. Black men in comparison, are only a sexual threat, but even that status is ironically given to them by white men promoting bmwf and promoting the idea that black women are ugly and mannish(so black men would prefer white women) People say ''muh biology'' ignoring politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 10:27 AM
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I think the elites don't want east asian men to be popular (and also overly fetishize their women) because they are feared as having economic and political power, while they do the reverse for black men and women because they aren't a real threat to them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 10:07 AM
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I find most of the newer ones average at best
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/22 09:50 AM
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A lot of movies have the plot of ''nerdy average joe' ' getting the pretty girl because the attractive dude is mean, fat guys have more roles even if comedic, etc. etc. Give me one country where this is reversed
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/22 09:48 AM
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I find most of the recent male celebs average looking, they also don't do plastic surgery as much
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/22 09:42 AM
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They are also before the rise of kpop but still, the reason east asian men are at a disadvantage isn't that white women find them unnattractive, it's moreso that western asian women will date out in very high numbers. Brown women aren't desired so brown men don't have this problem
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 09:42 AM
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It isn't really common, the dead average is women dating about 2 years older But even then, i didn't specify only age, facial averages, fashion and unnattractive features overall are less rigid on men in media
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/22 09:40 AM
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They absolutely do, just that aging signs are punished more on women, which proves my poünt, but not just older, fatter and more average faced men get more leeway as well
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/22 09:33 AM
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I meant generally, i think harmony is more important than features itself
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 08:57 AM
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JBK will surpass JBW in next 20 years imo Koreans and chinese can east europemaxx, which generally have better conventionally attractive women than SEA tbh. milf, loli, prettyboy and dilf all appeal to different audiences
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 08:56 AM
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Just by watching videos honestly, generally ones who don't fit into asian beauty standards get white bf's Though white and asian beauty standards are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 08:38 AM
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I wouldn't say so, a lot of men prefer whores but aren't honest about it. Why do onlyfans girls or ones who show tits and ass get more famous than some nerdy girl doing let's play videos and art?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 08:32 AM
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Really? I usually see more brown skinned and wide faced ones with white bf's, whereas the pale skinned v-faced(asian beauty standard) girls have asian bf's.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 08:25 AM
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It's actually 172 cm for men and 158 cm for women, 160 is short even in japan. Asian women typically care more about finances, so it might be.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 08:16 AM
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Not short or balding but a lot of girls fetishize asians these days, i prefer east asian appearence myself although don't have a strong preference
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 07:56 AM
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The preference only existed among already light skinned people like europeans and east asians though, most people preferred what was common in their ethnicity, that's the only thing that was biological before colonization. As for bigger eyes or double eyelids, we have ancient texts and art showing us they preferred small eyes and a wide round ''moonface' ' face shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 07:39 AM
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To be fair, the agenda that makes black women or asian men unnattractive comes from the same place...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 07:06 AM
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I know Interestingly, even if asian men aren't popular in the west (i know this is recently changing with kpop/kdrama and stuff but still) smaller eyes are actually more popular with men than women i found, most of the male models looksmaxx(a forum obsessed with aesthetics) obsesses over have slanted catlike eyes even if they are white, leonardo dicaprio, very popular prettyboy back in the day also has small eyes(they call it prey vs hunter eyes, where round eyes are actually ''beta' ' according…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 07:02 AM
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Light skin preference among whites and east asians comes from the riches staying out of the sun among ancient times Light skin beauty standards among southeast asians or darker skinned ethnicities in general comes from colonization and media influence As for korean or chinese beauty standards, it's true they were preferred since ancient times (and well indeed, a northern chinese person might be very light skinned if they stay out of the sun) but bigger eyes, v-jaw thing indeed comes from eurocen…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:20 AM
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Physical= very hairy, too old or harsh looking, or unbalanced features overall Non-physical=too bitter or weepy, too normie, too boring etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:14 AM
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Slanted=/=very small necessarily
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:10 AM
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The wall never existed ''post-wall' ' women getting with a primle age man: https://twitter.com/DailyLoud/status/1582137488151580672
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:02 AM
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It's honestly even worse for me, my face got ugly after 11-12 But that means i was never pretty in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 05:59 AM
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They simp for e boys doing weird shit with money
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/22 09:34 AM
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Maybe if you want to make a lot of kids but most either have casual sex or make 1 2 kids. Heck medically infertile young women would still be choosen I just think evopsych is junk science and used to explain sociatel trends or patterns, women don't have repulsion to older men(unless they are younger women themselves) even though older men are more likely to produce autistic kids.
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/22 05:47 AM
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but that just means the two are playing different kind of games, rather than one not playing. you can't really say one isn't a ''gamer'' just because they prefer harvest moon over LoL
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 06:12 PM
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candy crush isn't the only game females play though, animal crossing,final fantasy,sonic,pokemon etc. all have half female fanbases.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 05:58 PM
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Gay
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 12:31 PM
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Even if they play casually that still doesn't mean they hate video games or men who play them, you're missing the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 10:56 AM
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I honestly don't think this applies to gen z, it was moreso a gen x and older milennial thing in where being outgoing was cool and nerdy kids where bullied, this wasn't only done by women but also ''jocks' ' but it's not that fucking rare nowadays I' d say the ones negatively judged are mra types or porn addict types among nerds or vidya game fans
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 08:47 AM
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Does it really matter in this context though? The person implied women nowadays dislike video games and see video game fan males as freaks, obviously this wouldn't be the case if they play video games, even if its casual playimg instead of competitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 08:25 AM
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Women play more ''cutesy' ' games, mobile or not(gacha as you said, sonic, pokemon, and even final fantasy to an extent have female fans, so do indie pixel rpg games like mogeko castle, ib etcö) but that doesn't really mean they aren't fans, it just means they prefer different kinds of games.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 08:15 AM
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Bro they don't all play mobile games, even basic nintendo games have half female fanbases
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 07:23 AM
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I don't mean by hours, i mean the amount of people who play actively or as a hobby
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 07:00 AM
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They are playing different kind of games, is what im saying
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 06:36 AM
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Literally all cutesy games have female fans
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 06:06 AM
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Men do this too though, they get triggered if you like youthful pretty men instead of the chad type or older men, they(at least sone) get triggered when a girl dates out of her race while they can(and also prefer racial features like lighter skin while shaming women who prefer certain racial features. I'm not even disagreeing with your post, but men never acknowledge their group is also guilty of doing the shit women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 06:05 AM
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Ah yes liking some tiktok guy is as creepy as gay pedo shotacon(little boy) furry porn Liking prettyboys just means you like a type that isn't hypermasculine ken doll chad type. I also don't get why bisexual guys complain about women so much, i don't really care about their sexuality but if you are able to get off to boys and don't have success with women, why not just date guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 05:44 AM
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Because you're probably a perv yourself or just don't care. Even then it probably isn't gay shotacon furry porn
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 05:33 AM
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It's not just ''candy crush' ' basically anything somewhat cutesy, even stuff like sonic or pokemon practically has half of the fanbase female. Do you guys live under a rock?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 05:30 AM

Gen alpha will be the kids of milennials though
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 09:42 PM
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I honestly don't know women like this but im a nerdy introvert girl
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 09:21 PM
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Ok watch sontails pron
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 09:21 PM
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Video games are games either way, stop gatekeeping like it's the most important thing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 09:20 PM
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Women play video games as much as men do nowadays though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 09:12 PM
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Yes, as in prettyboys, so? It's obviously different from posting gay shota furry porn
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 09:07 PM
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Facebook
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 07:41 PM
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not just pedophile, but unusual sexual behaviours devolop without self-discipline. femboy is a boy that looks and dresses like a girl
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 05:45 PM
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socially awkward is not the same thing as ''shy'' someone who doesn't read social cues well (example: someone posts their fetishes or porn everywhere not understanding the social etiquette would be to keep that shit for ourself) is socially awkward too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 05:40 PM
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i've literally not met a single man online that doesn't like femboy porn or other weird shit
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 05:35 PM
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porn addiction is common in lonely men though, and that also leads to homosexual or pedophilic behaviour since she brought tails up(at least for fictional characters) as low self-discipline leads to unusual or paraphilic behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 05:03 PM
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Randomly asking for nudes and posting gay shotacon furry porn is normal goofy behaviour
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 04:48 PM
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What does that mean
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 04:45 PM
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well i'm autistic and i have a late aged father for reference(he probably just betabuxxed my mother than there being genuine attraction but whatever) three years ago isn't too late, most researches linked here i een are older than this.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/22 02:08 PM
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incels don't like teeagers bro https://looksmax.org/threads/i-hate-older-women-20-jb-mogs-a-22-year-old-fitness-model-girl.586142/
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/22 11:25 AM
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trends between racial groups or gender behaviour also exist due to social programming.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 11:25 AM
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Or maybe she just didn't want to fuck
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/22 09:15 AM
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Love isn't just about kids
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 07:31 AM
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Actually the research is on okcupid, not tinder, there are no research about this in 2020's, if you know one made in 2020-2021 2022 link me one. I think the okcupid research is also combining east asian and south asian together, which makes me confused on what advice to give to each group. I'm acknowledging the disadvantage either way, but it's starting to change and it's good to take advantage of niche trends if you can't go mainstream. https://youtu.be/KvmbrEQv1ms Look at a relatively less kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 06:09 AM
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30?
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/22 06:09 AM
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I know most people like younger, i do too, but Most people aren't having children, ones who do are having only 1-2 kids So ''fertility' ' isn't the reason, it's mostly just the looks or personality of an immature person.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/22 04:49 AM
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Evo psych honestly is used to cover up social programming and media/society influence a lot of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 08:50 PM
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I'm acknowledging the reality and not sugarcoating it , however being defeatist instead of taking advantage of trends that work in your favor isn't going to make you win. I just wish people would discuss what you said while also acknowledging the further trends.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 08:45 PM
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Being a nerd honestly is far more normal than it was 10 years ago, even ghetto dudes watch anime and play video games now. And asian men, while i'm not going to sugarcoat the negative media and stereotypes halo they had in america for years and asian women's self hate, they similarly have higher smv than they did 10 years ago, there's a reason why kpop or kdrama guys keep breaking records on zoomer spaces. I also see asian men with non-asian women more and more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 08:23 PM
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Evo psych honestly is used to cover up social programming and media/society influence a lot of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 08:18 PM
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Dream is just disliked for his reputation, most male gamers are ugly but no one cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 08:05 PM
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And to a similar vein, there actually are women fetishizing gay behaviour, especially around asian spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 07:56 PM
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it's not ''biological'' differences, a lot of women fetishize gay behaviour, this is most prevalnt with asian women with htings like yaoi and BL. it's just funny to see people trying to justify socialization programming with biological differences. it's just that society demonizes male homosexuality more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 04:08 PM
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but then again the amount of women who fetishize gay behaviour isn't low as you think it is either, asian women particularly with things like yaoi or BL fetishize gay behaviour a lot. as for lesbianism, it's something that had to be brought up because again, society as a whole demonizes gay behaviour a lot more than female homosexuality. not just womoen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 04:06 PM
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on pornhub gay porn has a lot of female viewers too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 04:05 PM
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depends
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/22 03:19 PM
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There are women who like to watch gay porn though, there's a whole genre dedicated to it called yaoi, pornhub also shows a large amount of gay porn viewers are women. Women and men aren't that different, it's just that society fetishizes or accepts lesbianism a lot more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 11:42 AM
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Some women are actually turned on by gay behaviour, such as ones that like the whole yaoi genre(some japanese genre that is specifically aimed at women featuring gay couples or erotica) and pornhub statistics show women proportionally watch more gay porn than actual gay men do. But the more ''normie' ' assumed behaviour you talk of it is caused by society in general, not just women fetishizibg lesbians while demonizing male homosexuals, it's nothing deeper than this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 11:40 AM
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Some women are actually turned on by gay behaviour, such as ones that like the whole yaoi genre(some japanese genre that is specifically aimed at women featuring gay couples or erotica) and pornhub statistics show women proportionally watch more gay porn than actual gay men do. But the more ''normie' ' assumed behaviour you talk of it is caused by society in general, not just women fetishizibg lesbians while demonizing male homosexuals, it's nothing deeper than this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 11:40 AM
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Very
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/22 11:13 AM
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There are some women who fetishize gay men, the whole yaoi genre and pornhub statistics that show women proportionally watch more gay porn than actual gay men. Of course, the more normie behaviour you see comes from society in general demonizing gay men while fetishizing lesbians
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 07:17 AM
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It's decreasing communication skills of men too, and in tinder, obviously nothing other than looks matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 03:53 PM
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They should be disgusted by this ''biology fertility' ' logic because studies say +35 year old men's sperm is more likely to produce diseased children acccording to studies, this is what i' m saying. Yet they aren't? Why? Because attraction is socially engineered
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/22 03:46 PM
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Babylikeface, skinny without curves and light skin and hair(in a way kids have before puberty) are all juvenile features.
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/22 03:42 PM
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You didn't adress the point about incels preferring 12 year olds, women not being disgusted at men over 35 despite the fact they should ''biologically be' ' (studies say they produce diseased küds more) or my point about social engineering
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/22 03:40 PM
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I'm not demonizing men i just think they are using junk science to explain shit I mean i prefer men who look young or boyish myself, i'd be a hypocrite if i demonized them, but i don't use ''fertility' ' excuse. Also love how you adressed none of my points in the reply
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/22 03:29 PM
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Yes but incels do prefer juvenile features, not just young
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/22 03:25 PM
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It is cope because no one cares about making children nowadays, they just pump and dump in their 20's then when they settle make about only 1-2 kids on average (30 isn't too old for 1-2 kids... It's only old if you want like, 10 kids) and they don't really care about curves either, they mostly care about juvenile traits only(thin frame, childlike face, light skin, light hair) which makes me think they would like 12 year olds if there wasn't a mental block on it. Also biologically, men over 35 ar…
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/22 03:21 PM
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Which part? 13 year olds aren't ''fertile' '
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/22 02:54 PM
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Looking younger is mostly genetics, i don't look young because i have a harsher and more masculine face for girls my age even though i don't drink. Also have genetic dark eye circles which probably age me. Not always, but the age difference you said is statistically rare, there are also cases of 31 year old women having sex with 15 year old boys but both are statistically rare, well among westerners anyway some easterners might prefer older men for economical reasons.
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/22 06:07 AM
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https://uk.style.yahoo.com/style/ageing-impacts-male-fertility-and-men-should-freeze-sperm-093231362.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly91ay1zdHlsZS15YWhvby1jb20uY2RuLmFtcHByb2plY3Qub3JnLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAMcWsHqlYuFGYwS8v1nIg1FT1LBKkdczZqAvxcYP18GvzlianpanpwQMbH1o-f8yNeCyFx-BTmia5WHlKa9CBmTu0ewWNocOor4B6JzUTWWpoXqPAW77F9E77ccdcu_Ab8FkIVgeM-ocopmon78BypD48-R-dg0raOIm_1SJicy1 I'm not saying they can't impregnate, but sperm quality obviously declines, that's why some sperm donation places don't ac…
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/22 05:55 AM
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But again let's say it existed would that still effect? They like about 2-3 years older so prime women like early or mid 20's men, i do also think most men over 30's are ugly as they are bald, hairy and wrinkly but fertility isn't an excuse i use
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/22 05:50 AM
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Again i don't actually care what people prefer, it's just funny to hear them ''talk' ' about fertility when most of them don't even have more than 2 kids.
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/22 05:46 AM
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Young women slut around too, and hypıthetically, let's say there's 30 year old virgin, now what? Youth is aesthetically more pleasing in both men and women, but again people use excuses of ''fertility' ' which doesn't make sense
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/22 05:44 AM
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Boredom
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/22 05:42 AM
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But again, most of those people do not have children in their 20's when they have access to prime women, and when they make kids, they make about 1-2 kids, 30 isn't too late to make one or two kids, it's just too late to make like 5 kids You could also say men older than 35 have chance to create autistic or diseased kids
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/22 05:40 AM
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Because if he's not having kids why does fertility matter Actually even if he only wants about 1-2 kids, 30 isn't too late for it, it's only a late age if you want like 10 kids, which most people in this day and age, don't have. What if she's a 35 year old virgin? Or high n count 20 year old? Again i don't care if you prefer (legal) loli over milf, just that people give irrational cope responses
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/22 09:24 PM
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They ducked up scooby doo
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/22 09:11 PM
1

neoteny as in i like a neoteny that makes a guy look somewhat similar to a teenage boy
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/22 08:11 PM
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i mean according to biology i should prefer ''uber masc'' or at least ''alpha'' guys but here we are, me preferring neotenous guys. by the way i also prefer neoteny on a woman and wish i looked 12 myself, so i'm not even dissing on guys who prefer young or immature looks, i just don't understand why they would think their preference stems from ''fertility'' when again, this doesn't apply to today's society.
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/22 06:03 PM
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they also prefer slim and don't really care about curves. whereas somoen carin gabout fertile signs would care about hip size, for example
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/22 05:58 PM
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and even then, you have all those guys defending the fringe ideas i presented here.
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/22 05:57 PM
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false, physical attraction depended heavily on socialization and media influence too, human sexuality is far more mental than other animals. and it's the neoteny level of 20 year olds, not the neoteny level of 12 year olds, which is what incels like. i do prefer men with some noeteny over hypermasculine men myself, but i don't need to justify it by ''muh bioogy''
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/22 05:55 PM
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Teenagers have complications when giving birth, And even then, most young guys don't make children and instead just have casual sex in their 20's with the prime women, and the ones who do, usually just have 1 or 2 children on average instead of like, 10(30 isn't too late if what you want is 1 or 2 kids) . These factors make me think it's moreso aesthetics those guys like, rather than fertility (which is fine, i just don't like trying to rationalize every personal preference as objective)
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/22 04:26 PM
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and on here this very forum, they are defendinng the claims of incels this is an incel adjacent dub in the first place
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/22 03:58 PM
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I literally looked ugly since i hit puberty, just very unappealing face
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/22 02:15 PM
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Eh, would a prostitute compare?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 01:53 PM
1

I lurk incel forums, they think 13 is hotter tjan 25
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/22 01:25 PM
2

But they don't want children they just pump and dump attractive women , and most e-girls mimic the look of 12-15 year olds, not 20. Actually a medically infertile 20 year old would be more attractive than an 30 year old, or an 30 year old who looks 15 would be more attractive than an old looking 25 year old, it's all aesthetics. Also men over 35 make diseased children
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/22 01:24 PM
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You're fine, i'm just saying people who use evo psych for everything miss the point.
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/22 01:01 PM
1

it always looks weird if u werent born with the right chromosomes.
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/22 12:00 PM
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it's not even just me wanting to look anime, i legit have higher masculinization and lower neotenization than normal girls my age too, i probably would've been a ''chad'' as a guy unfortunately i was born fmeale
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/22 11:55 AM
1

surgery is risky also ill be too old when i have mone for such a thing(not to be attractive, but to be cute specifically)
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/22 11:46 AM
1

In the chart you used, they only prefer 2-3 years older when they are in early 20's,so the scenario is 20 vs 23, not 20 vs 45, besides, at 30's they find same age men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 11:19 AM
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Women only find 2-3 year older attractive according to graph only when they are under 30, about at 30, they start to prefer their own age, no one cares about a 20 year old dating 23 year old so your point is null.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 11:17 AM
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it's not even legal for women much younger than that to make money, but again they are ''mimicking'' the looks of teens or preteens, which contradicts the ''fertility'' argument i'm not trying to be moral here either, i do also think immature faces aesthetically look better, but i don't use fertility as an excuse.
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/22 09:45 AM
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most e-girls mimick the look of teens or preteens, even if they themelves are 22 or even 30 sometimes. it's also common for an incel to say 12 year olds look better than 30, at least in incel spaces, not normie spaces.
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/22 09:39 AM
1

evo psych is mostly psuedoscience. again ''fertile'' look is about 20-27, but what incels prefer is 12-15, lookswise.
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/22 09:31 AM
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again someone can think 14 year olds look ''better'' than 30, but it isn't ''more fertile'' is what i'm saying.
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/22 09:30 AM
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i already look too old for my liking i legit wish i looked 10 instead, but i look older than even my actual age. i already know the feeling and have serious sadness about my face. but again, 13 year olds incels like aren't fertile, nor do most incels want children, which makes fertility a null point, they just like the aesthetics and personality/behaviour of an immature person. there are people who are ''older'' than me that have younger and more childish looks that i envy, so again its the ''lo…
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/22 08:51 AM
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but we don't have to compare extremes, we have things in betweenand always had them and yet they like the features of juvenileness better still. i do prefer juvenile features in men and women myself, (makes me sad since i look older than my age but whatevz) but i don't ecuse it with fertility i just think too much signs of adulthood don't look cute or pleasurable, i never wanted a kid and will never have one. again flat chest or extremely young faces would be undesirable if what you said was tru…
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/22 07:53 AM
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overly neotenous features and light skin and hair aren't signs of fertility though as much as they are just generic juvenile features, is what i'm saying.
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/22 07:19 AM
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also i noticed, guys in incel spaces don't really care about ''fertile signs'' that much instead of curves or a matured appearence, they like overall slimness, babyface/neotenous face, light skin/light hair(perople have lighter features pre-puberty) again, i don't really care as long as it's just young looking adults instead of kids but it seems weird to use fertility as an excuse when they just prefer juveline features itself.
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/22 07:13 AM
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but an 13 year old isn't more fertile than an 30 year old one, 30 year olds aren't really showing up post-menopausal signs either most men aren't really caring about curves that much either today, well at least the ones on incel spaces, they care more about slimness, babyface/neotenous face, light skin/light hair(people have lighter skin and hair when younger)etc. etc., they are lookig moreso a juvenile appearence than a ''fertile'' one, which again, i personally don't care about if they do, but…
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/22 07:06 AM
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30 is not an age fertility plummets, and 16 is not the peak of it, that is psuedoscience, for most women it doesn't plummet until like you're 40. and for men you get diseased children after 35. fertility signs are also curves and maturity that makes the woman look like a grown up, is the 13 year old incel guys drool over really more ''fertile''? ​ and even when those men get the ''prime'' women they pump and dump them instead of having kids, so it's a copoput. look i'm someone who thinks neoteno…
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/22 06:50 AM
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You're ignoring the point, not making a child by having casual sex instead of marriage and also thinking 14 year olds look better than 30 year olds means the fertility excuse is bullshit. Incels don't care about kids and often think teenagers look better than adults despite them being less fertile than 30 year olds. Options or not ''fertility' ' isn't a thing those guys are looking for
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 05:31 AM
1

I work at art and learning chores but still i wish i was kawaii it's so dumb
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/22 07:11 PM
1

I still will die as talentless and ugly cope
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/22 07:06 PM
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Tbh i want to improve myself more than i want to get a relationship, im currently working at art and learning other basic things unrelated to art, can't really fix my appearence to something i'd like though which makes me sad
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/22 06:39 PM
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Most guys pump and dump these days marriage or fertility isn't a factor for them. Also people who complain about '' the wall'' often think 13-16 year olds look better than 30, are they more fertile than 30? It's all aesthetics and somewhat insecurity combined.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 01:18 PM
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How is this related to the topic
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 06:55 AM
1

im a girl myself
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/22 08:28 PM
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https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/why-are-so-many-men-gay-for-markiplier.5053443/ see? hes making money off off it
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/22 08:07 AM
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https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/why-are-so-many-men-gay-for-markiplier.5053443/ see?
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/22 08:07 AM
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https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/why-are-so-many-men-gay-for-markiplier.5053443/ markiplier is making money off of onlyfans now
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/22 08:06 AM
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Gay guys and mentally ill girls don't have much standards trust me
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/22 12:03 AM
1

you're not counting bisexuals in that + a lot of the ''straight'' dudes aren't straight in reality, why do you think transgender porn is trending? why does prison rape exist?
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/22 09:43 PM
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it was in top 10's even then, a tiny minority is still plenty money, i'm just suggesting those guys to make money if they want, not foring anyone to do shit
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/22 09:22 PM
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there's a lot of closet gay dudes watching troon and femboy porn trust me theres enough of a market that you can make something
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/22 09:21 PM
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''watches femboy porn on stelath''
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 07:16 PM
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transgender or femboy porn is also popular, there's enough of a market for it even if its not the absolute majorit.y
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/22 05:54 PM
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Men are the ones funding thots
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/22 05:00 PM
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I'm not lying, why do you think prison rape exists?
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/22 04:55 PM
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They aren't straight but truly straight is rare
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:07 PM
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What did you do?
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/22 09:12 AM
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Raped?
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/22 09:03 AM
-4

Put on a skirt every ''straight' ' guy secretly likes femboy i can't tell you how much guys i' ve argued with their ''straightness' ' liked femboys
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/22 08:01 AM
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Not exactly but i like high neoteny
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/22 08:17 PM
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no but i would like to be cute lolita-ish girl without romantic or sexual relationships
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/22 03:29 PM
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point is people here wonder why ''average men'' don't do well because the average for men is lower than of women, i also think most humans are stupid and dishonest tbh, not just men or women.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/22 10:56 AM
1

Honestly reddit probably has feds too
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/22 02:57 PM
1

dm
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/22 07:41 AM
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username?
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/22 07:21 AM
1

just incel things tbh i never understood the racism part of incels is, isn't bullying someone for their looks and genes being unable to attract women ''foid behaviour'' as they call it?
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/22 07:21 AM
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I think they are, but a part of why they are attractive is yes, for all the whining here men do nothing about their looks
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/22 05:49 AM
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because men don't lose their social status by being ugly
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/22 08:34 PM
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More of a twink person than bear Most turkish women don't really care about men's beauty either were pretty much uglypilled
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/22 05:45 PM
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i mean just observe peoples faces without bringing sexuality into it, just pure aesthetically
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/22 05:23 PM
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just observe peoples faces without bringing sexuality into it, just pure aesthetically
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/22 05:23 PM
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Face is the most important women are more facially beautiful
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/22 05:22 PM
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Turkey
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/22 05:20 PM
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No i mean just observe peoples faces without bringing sexuality into it, just pure aesthetically
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/22 05:20 PM
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i wish i was trolling but men, at least specifically in the country i live, are seriously ugly
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/22 03:18 PM
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I just live in a shit country :((
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/22 02:49 PM
2

men are generally uglier than women on average
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/22 12:36 PM
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My countrymen are too ugly
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/22 11:16 AM
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Ew no maybe in other countries but my countrymen hit the wall at 17
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/22 11:04 AM
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Bruh im in college and the boys look ugly compared to highschool they already hit the wall
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/22 11:03 AM
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theres hardly difference between 25 and 30 year old women nowadays tbh, while men hit the wall at like 25
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/22 10:54 AM
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would solve world problems
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/22 08:48 AM
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Ik, just that people who say this actually mean that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 07:26 AM
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Trad wife is subcode for ''i want a fairly young and attractive girl who will fuck me even though i offer nothşng' '
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 07:09 AM
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Ok bro have your virgin 12 year old loli this topic is discussed to death and doesn't offer anything new
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 06:48 AM
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Healthy food is expensive
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 06:31 AM
1

and those non-asian men are arguing about asian women being more ''biologically attractive'' to me, which makes no sense.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 10:35 PM
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most people were attracted to their own, but you know that i'm talking about USA or EU
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 10:29 PM
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maybe not blonde in particular, but most beauty symbols of that time were white women in media.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 10:23 PM
1

objectively wrong on what? do you also watch JAV?
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 10:19 PM
1

beauty standards, concubines, historical texts. no man or woman has the absolute same desires, but you can make generaliations.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 10:18 PM
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''Being desired is very important to men. Women who do a better job of communicating that are going to get better reception than women who don't.'' but the actual data shows that white girls still have the most SMV in 2021, it's just that asian women have lower standards due to self-hatred or status seeking. (though said study also said east asian guys had higher smv than black guys which i find somewhat hard to believe in us, even though kpop and anime increased east asian guy smv a little bit …
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 10:14 PM
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i don't think asian women have ''ugly faces'' but they generally have faces that don't fit the conventional beauty standards, wide faces/jaws, flat wide nose, flat face, flat chest, rectangular body, thick calves/legs. heck, i like the look of east asian guys the most myself, but i do recognize they don't fit the conventional beauty standards of the west. do you like femboys or had trouble with white girls?
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 10:01 PM
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do you determine attractiveness generally by just fatness? nothing about the face or the bodyshape itself?
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 09:44 PM
1

other girls have feminine faces at least
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 09:39 PM
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also the newest dating stat in 2021 says white guys do prerfer white girls, it's moreso that asian girls respond more to them. (study focused on 20's people) (though the same study said east asian guys was above black in smv, which i have hard time believing even though kpop and anime probably increased asian guy smv a bit, maybe the study is wrong i don't know)
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 09:29 PM
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i just wish more men would be honest about this when you tell them some mid girl they like isn't pretty.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 09:27 PM
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european stats show the reverse is much more common overall with middle easterners so again, dating apps, especially in 2008 where they weren't even popular don't mean much
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 09:20 PM
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''Hmm, why don't you look up online dating race statistics and see for yourself?'' because dating apps is a meme, any girl that's not overweight gets matches, heck, just a feminine name alone does. but for your pleasure, the newest research in 2021 that focused on women in their 20'S showed that most white guys preferred white women, it's moreso that asian girls preferred white men than the reverse, go look it up. ''I know this is going off of stereotypes too, but the 10/10 blonde girl is likely…
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 09:08 PM
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i specified ''slim white girls'' in my thread because of this reason, many european countries have slimmer women. furthermore, american white men also have the problem of being overweight and aging poorly, but since asian women have low standards, they accept it. ''aging poorly'' doesn't mean much anyway since most people have their sexual experience peak at 20's. are you seriously denying that asian women being thought of as ''easy'' isn' impacting their smv in any meaningful way? literally a l…
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 09:02 PM
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i mean i don't care if a guy decides it's not worth it and stays a virgin, it's just that those people spend their lives whining about this, then also just LDAR when you tell them to work hard.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 06:34 PM
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about fat women, you know how many ''straight'' men in prison rape other men because there are no foid presence? fat or ugly women is nothing compared to that, so yes, merely getting sex doesn't mean attraction.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 06:06 PM
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i don't know a chaddy guy or a celebrity who dated an asian girl tbh i know it's a common fetish, but fetishes in general are lowvibrational people.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 05:20 PM
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that it's better to look at what kind of males give attention to them, than to just look at the amount that give them attention.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 04:29 PM
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i've seen a few ethnics say it as well but here's the thing, unless the noodles are objectively stacies, they attract either beta incelly guys or niche weeaboo types, whereas an averageish white girl can get normie or high tier white and ethnic guys, this is what matters at the end of the day for female smv
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 04:15 PM
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I think they have higher smv than black girls but it being higher than white girls or them being ''trad and submissive' ' is cope
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 02:03 PM
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I'm saying their high smv comes from perceived easiness, rather than looks (well looks affect the light skin part)
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 01:43 PM
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No i look at my face before age 12 and it actually looks somewhat cute and pretty, after that it got more masculine. I also have rotten teeth, im trying to get it done but i'm scared, wish i gone to dentist earlier
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 12:21 PM
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No...
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 12:00 PM
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>okcupid opinion discarded this was made at a time where dating apps weren't popular, i also wouldn't say middle eastern women would respond to white men the most considering muslims usually don't even date non-muslims and arab men/white woman pairing is way more common than the reverse
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 10:47 AM
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i just wish guys would be more honest with this instead of claiming that asian girls are more ''trad'' (cope) or thought of as more ''beautiful'' than white girls (cope unless you're a weeb or bisexual) or any kind of mid girl secretly being beautiful really. i'm not even suggesting that there's an obhjective metric of beauty, but it's easy to observe what features are rated as 8 vs 5 in society.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 10:32 AM
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Again ''among weebs' ' not an actual beauty standard. This is like me saying asian men are more popular due to anime and kpop being popular among women ,you know that's not how it works
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 08:46 AM
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Anime fans are coomers, sadly
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 08:08 AM
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Indians are technically shorter than chinese and koreans on avg, not fetishized as much or being compared to white girls by coping weebs
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 07:56 AM
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If you dedicate your life to whşnşng about blackpill then it means it's probably big enough problem for them to whine about
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 07:41 AM
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True, but you could say american men are also fatter and that europe has more small framed and slim white girls i specified '' slim white girls' ' for a reason
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 07:40 AM
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Lay down and rot
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 07:37 AM
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The guy i was arguing with said ''threatened because of them being perceived more attractive' ' which again, i think is bs unless you're talking to weebs or femboy liking guys.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 07:37 AM
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You said it yourself that women a lot of the time didn't have much choice in who they picked, which i also pointed out. Which would mean it's not ''natural' ' and being in an era where women have more power we would have different stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 04:09 AM
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it's not just ''large amount of children'' a lot of people nowadays just don't have kids at all. but sex feels good, so they do it. your theory also doesn't explain why gay sex has existed since the ancient times. you could also argue that older men have more chance to breed diseased or defective children, thus women should also have a younger preference just as the men would. and women's fertiliy doesn't get too awful until like +35 necessarily, not worse than it is for old men at least. and i'…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 10:46 PM
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you say this but fertility rates dropping further and further in most first world countries, i don't think they are having less sex, more like just using contraceptions and abortions. people literally don't want kids anymore. furthermore, even though you use those evopsych explanations, media reach and socialization having an effect on humanity is also something that is evolutionarily correct, heck with women getting more power and there being more shaming around age gap relationships, the avera…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 09:42 PM
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i liked it before i hit puberty
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/22 08:42 PM
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because of a societal standard, not a blogocial one. men through media, normalized aging for men because they wanted young prime pussy, and normalized relationships with younger women old men through hollywood movies, buying women or grooming girls, and all that sort of things. but even then, bioogically it makes no sense to go for old men, and most young women find young men more attractive, with women gaining more power or media swinging in another direction this is going to be oudated too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 02:30 PM
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No women under 30 likes bald men, and they biologically shouldn't considering it signifies less virility were and health by looking aged. You don't understand, women choosing men purely by their looks is relatively new in history.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 02:08 PM
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It's not how nature designed us, it's just that men had more control to get what they want historically and they desired younger women, if women gain the same power, you would start to see younger men being promoted more, there's already more prettyboy fashion and more women being outright liking teen boys judging by female crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:49 PM
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It is, hair is a very big part of beauty, or covering imperfections/balancing out features by framing, and it's also a sign of virility as not balding is youthful and suggests stronger genes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:43 PM
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Elliot, while not the ideal standard on where he lives, didn't have the complete incel phenotype or was too feminine at all, he was just autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 10:28 AM
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It's not just women who say this though, usually people who refet to as kpop guys looking like ''lesbians' ' are men who are confused about girls liking them. Personally, prettyboys are just the male equivalent of a petite lolita-ish woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 10:26 AM
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Idk about adorable but cute is used as a compliment a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 10:17 AM
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I would say it is, pretty, handsome, sexy, hot, cute all are compliments Sometimes a girl can use ''too pretty' ' in a condescending way but it can be easy to recognize from a genuine one
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 10:16 AM
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Most do it to get praise, while i genuinely think mine is too masculine I liked my face before i was 12,got too masculinized afterwards
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/22 09:19 AM
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Not big but medium, it isn't fully flat Face matters the most
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/22 06:35 AM
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There are women who like neoteny in men too, though the number of women who care about beauty is lower
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 06:23 AM
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I would rather be cute, plus i'm not flat chested enough for this i just have a masculine face
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/22 06:03 AM
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Women in early history either have been sold to older men outside of their will or married men that were 17-22 ish in which most guys weren't totally bald
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 06:02 AM
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Women are neotenous compared to men, which makes them age better
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 05:42 AM
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Honestly personally around 23 for most, im22 and already think boys look worse than in highschool
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 05:34 AM
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Ye
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/22 05:26 AM
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yes, but what i'm talking about is something that has no basis in actual biology, which is interesting as people here usually take biology or researhes as the ''truth''
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 09:08 PM
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i wish i was a lesbian, i dont like tits :( i said i knew girls who liked prettyboys irl, not young boys, misquote.
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/22 07:38 PM
1

how do you know
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/22 05:45 PM
1

ugliest men have access to women through escortcelling. also ugly women generally get interest from weirdos looking for a quick fap, not genuine wantedness. you also have to thik about this outside sexuality, you generally see ugly male streamers and youtubers but all female streamers and content creators that aren't obscure are usually either sexy model looking or cutesy lolita looking, because a lot of men don't value women outside of their sexual potential.
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/22 05:15 PM
1

its not the ideal, also i wax my face because im sand
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/22 05:11 PM
1

body dysmmorphia is common on females.
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/22 05:09 PM
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its kinda sad because i like ''cutesy'' appearences i want to be a girl whose male counterpart would be a femboy.
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/22 04:21 PM
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because they are losers, like i am, duh.
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/22 03:15 PM
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there are a lot of spaces where frustrated or ugly women post too, being a loser isn't just a male trait
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/22 02:45 PM
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Niche as in guy on the streets or guys in movies usually were more average. Idk, the age range of prettyboy fans now extend as old as 25
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 06:50 AM
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My crossdresser friend got pussy Generally the sexy womanly chick or cute lolita chick beats the masculine hairy chick, i have a square jaw and grow some facial hair and generally look masculine in general, can confirm ''cute' ' girls get more attention than me. Not even complaining about it because it would be weird otherwise, but it's just what happens. Masculine behaviour and masculine looks are different, masculine behaviour is often just social cobstruct. My aesthetic taste is much more fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 06:34 AM
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Most men don't like tall muscular women with facial hair and square jaws
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 06:18 AM
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Yes but they were niche, nowadays there's social media where a lot of the mainstream is prettier guys
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 06:15 AM
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If you won't look good you won't really fuck on command whether you're a chad or a prettyboy, this seems like a weird excuse as i never said unnattractive dudes had girls flocking to them. Most basic chicks aren't interested in sports or shooting shit either they like gosipping or watching netflix or whatever. You yourself said they don't look like k-pop stars or are prettyboys of some sort, an average white or black dude isn't getting a harem either unless they aim for weird fetishists so this …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 06:05 AM
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I mean it's not even just kpop tiktok e-boys or justin bieber before he got old were also examples Alt girls are also girls and can be attractive eh, idk why you guys always prefer the most basic types then complain women all like the same thing. I also never said ''chad' ' types don't get women it's just not the only types who get women, maybe they pull nerdier ones but idk why that's making my point null. These statistics are old in the first place(2014 max) + most asians don't even look like …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 04:17 AM
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they are moreso tired of the hypersexual and male-centric angle of western media(common western complaint) the relationships themselves aren't completely sexless. in fact, a lot of the ''my korean boyfriend'' videos have thumbnails alone are obviously sexually baiting the viewer. i've seen some who complain about western shows sexualizing the females too much while k*drama is ok to them since the men are more sexualizedi and they are also mostly somewhat conservative young women.(a.k.a the ones …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 08:16 PM
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asian cultures generally do value lighter skin, that'S why but you can still find some freaks fetishizing ''bbc'' or is into any dude who will give them the greencard
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 07:38 PM
1

just be foreigner means you can also be white, doesn't matter
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 07:36 PM
0

Philippines is jbf not jbw.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 07:13 PM
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They also go for blacks, asian americans, south koreans, indians and basically any demographic, because they care about your green card
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:50 PM
1

The first abd second are more blackpilled than blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 04:38 PM
5

i don't have a job yet nor do i live in an english speaking country, ill be ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 04:25 PM
2

japan doesn't get immigrants, if you subtract immigrants from us they would be simlar fertility ratewise.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 04:10 PM
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it's mostly immigrants that is making fertility higher, happy now?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 04:03 PM
5

blacks and arabs breed more
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:31 PM
1

if it was just status why can't you market michael cera the same way you can market park jimin? heck, park jimin actually influenced some women(a niche number, but still) to do this, meaning it actually extends to regular people who look like jimin: https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/south-korea-western-women-seeking-love-intl-hnk-dst/index.html
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:19 PM
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southeast asia is to an extent, in northeast asia people can recognize an ugly or broke foreign guy is an ugly and broke guy so they don't try as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:15 PM
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but 60 year old men will date around his age range, not a 20-30 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 02:50 PM
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The current fertility rate for Japan in 2022 is 1.368 births per woman, a 0% increase from 2021. in comparison this is italy with 1.27, germany 1,54, us 1,70(keep in mind it's mostly blacks and arabs making this any higher) etc. south korea is an anomaly with it being 0.80 something, but korea went from being a shithole in 50's to where it is now, im pretty sure the government can probably solve this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 02:46 PM
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i think femininity=boyish is something old men programmed us into thinking because they wanted easy access to young girls, a lot of movies used to portray old ugly men with barely legal girls, so it made us think rougher feeatures older people get are masculinity despite both men and women getting them. other than that, i'm guessing young leo was called feminine for having a bit of delicate facial features and looking somewhat childish (some people mistook him for a teen) and i never heard of an…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 12:46 PM
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leo dicaprio is ''feminine'' in the sense he has a delicate and somewhat childish features(as in he looked like a teen at 20's) though i wouldn't call him androgynous either i've never seen brad pitt called feminine, he looks like the most basic chad archetype. if i had to guess it would be because he wasn't a total ogre or roided.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 12:44 PM
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i think femininity=boyish is something old men programmed us into thinking because they wanted easy access to young girls, a lot of moviesmovies used to portray old ugly men with barely legal girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 12:42 PM
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https://news.sbs.co.kr/news/endPage.do?news\_id=N1006552388
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 12:39 PM
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prettyboys aren't necessarily feminine, they are moreso the counterpart of petite lolita-like women, which are well lked. i think the question alone is a fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 12:37 PM
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prettyboys aren't necessarily feminine, they are moreso the counterpart of petite lolita-like women, which are well lked.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 12:35 PM
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prettyboys aren't necessarily feminine, they are moreso the counterpart of petite lolita-like women, which are well lked. and similar to 6'2 women, 5'2 men aren't well liked either, even though height isn't necessarily dimorphism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 12:35 PM
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maybe geomaxx to a place where there's less power imbalance?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 12:02 PM
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and your definition of ''not shallow'' is a woman desperate to get out of her shithole country?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 11:51 AM
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It could be that the twink look in a man at 30's is rare, heck i'm only 22 and i only see cute looking boys at internet, in real life i only see them in high school which depresses me... Men hit the wall at 21
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 09:53 AM
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It could be that the twink look in a man at 30's is rare, heck i'm only 22 and i only see cute looking boys at internet, in real life i only see them in high school which depresses me... Men hit the wall at 21
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 09:52 AM
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Black and northeast asian guys do it too, though white guys in particular never target anything other than asians for whatever reason
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 09:08 AM
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Healthy food costs more than junk food Capitalism screwing with us as usual
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 07:09 AM
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Both northeast asia and western countries are like that because their females have economical freedom and don't think having kids or oartners is the only purpose, i don't think it's the chad that's doing yhis, chad is a red herring. Oh there's also an economic crisis in bigger cities that makes raising kids inefficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 07:03 AM
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Men just don't want to put in effort anymore, and they are also too beta to target non-asian women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:58 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/a2v8y5/interracial_divorce_rates_compared_to_white/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=2&utm_content=share_button Actually amwf couple divorce rate is less than wmaf Which makes me think asians are less likely to divorce overall even if the pairing isn't happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:57 AM
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It could be an incel guy, but what he said is kinda true lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:53 AM
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It's generally an incel who dates a low status girl because he can't find much else, it is also indirectly used to fuel race realist nazi-like theories or fetishes like bmwf is in media that's why some people don't like it. Why don't white men go for black or indian women and only like or target asians? That alone tells me there's a bad history behind it. Amaf couples result in the lowest divorce overall and amwf also slightly lower than wmaf, i think it's moreso that asians are less likely to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:49 AM
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Generally i see married women with ugly men I wish i was being a troll this time too but i truly don't like my face
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/22 06:39 AM
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Am ww pairings in another research with a bigger sample size showed it was slightly lesser than aw wm pairings in divorce rate I think it's just the asian incentive to not divorce(judging by asian-asian divorce being the absolute lowest) , but they still could be unhappy in relationships or have toxic ones
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:15 AM
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Japan's single or fertility rate isn't much worse tgan usa's or most western countries
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:58 AM
2

you aren't even ugly jfl
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/22 09:21 PM
3

ER was a volcel
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/22 07:34 PM
1

Idk honestly women are uglypilled Maybe it was betabux
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/22 07:32 PM
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It's some kind of psyop they want to push for whatever reason
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/22 05:11 PM
1

Biology only applies to zoomers?
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/22 12:46 PM
1

i dont have big boobs but flat would ve been probably better considering my ace is too masc for my taste i wanted the cutesy naotenouus face type :(
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/22 11:14 AM
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I'm honestly ugly because of my father, the idea that only top quality men bred is broscience
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/22 10:31 AM
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I'm honestly ugly because of my father, the idea that only top quality men bred is broscience
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/22 10:30 AM
1

Don't all women have boobs?
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/22 10:29 AM
2

I can't complain about being ugly or bullied because some coomer gets horny at me?
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/22 10:28 AM
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Men are also influenced by trends and culture to a lesser degree
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 10:06 AM
1

Ew
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/22 08:13 AM
1

It's easier for adolescent girls to get on t, what?
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/22 07:01 AM
1

Rapeman hentai
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/22 01:54 AM
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Asian was a typo i deleted Middle eastern and caucasian is the same
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/22 12:54 AM
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I have a masculine face and am hairy, wanted that soft cutesy face and money for epilation
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/22 08:40 PM
1

its honestly not that hard to kpopmaxx though, like its mostly about facial harmony(plus i seen what foreign girls in korea date, they aren't alwyas 8/10) it is a version of prettyboy but i think asians would have easier time pretyboymaxxing due to aging slower
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/22 05:17 PM
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not rly at least the part about ethnics is true
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/22 04:37 PM
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there are girls who prefer certain niches that includes being ethnic(kpop, bollywoodd, thugmaxx) or short guys (femdom)
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/22 02:22 PM
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NTmaxx dress well, do skincare, do makeup, choose a niche that would fit whatever you are. most females are ugly without looksmaxx, i myself have a masculine face that makes me afraid to post photos but it is what it is
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/22 01:08 PM
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except blackpill is making men weaker, they just LDAR instead of doing shit to improve ''wahh im short wahh im curry/rice wahh i dont look like this photoshopped male model looksmaxx incels jerk off to''
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/22 01:06 PM
1

I know many men who like gay shit or dicks
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/22 06:08 AM
1

The number of truly straight is small for both sexes
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/22 06:05 AM
0

I ve seen ugly ass dudes do that
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/22 06:03 AM
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In prison men that were straight out of the prison rape each other in prison Idk, my mom had me so they had secks, maybe its your delusion? Most men also ''settle' ' no one gets their ideal type.
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/22 06:02 AM
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A dude can get hard for other men in the prison, being hard doesn't tell you much, even women will be stimulated with rape. I don't like chad, my mom married a fat older guy and most dudes with gfs i see outside all look average or oofy doofy
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/22 05:44 AM
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It's not that hard to look good but most men don't looksmaxx to the point of women do
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/22 05:32 AM
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She's saying men should stop the hooking up culture instead of peerpetuating with evo psych, she's not telling you to love promiscous women.
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/22 05:31 AM
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That exists because women couldn't afford to care about looks too much back then
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/22 05:27 AM
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You only get fucked by horny dudes, but as an ugly female i was bullied then got depression, remember having sex isn't everything Males don't like all types, they just fuck anything out of horniness that isn't true like. And females don't only like chad, not even i like chad
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/22 05:22 AM
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Asian one was a one time typo due to autocorrect, i deleted that comment Middle eastern and caucasian is the same
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/22 12:15 PM
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They are also caucasians
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/22 12:08 PM
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Bruh im just bored and shitposting i don't take this sub seriously I don't even live in a western country before you go ''muh western women' ' bad
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/22 05:26 AM
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https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/stereotypes-of-cliquessubcultures/images/b/b1/Neckbeard_%28man%29.png/revision/latest/top-crop/width/360/height/360?cb=20200915174610 (ai generated art)
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/22 07:54 PM
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i have no idea what you look like
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/22 07:51 PM
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pedophilia exists in other species it must be use- prettyboy=/=teen boy i was mostly joking on the agepill part of it, of course a prettyboy can also be an adult, this was what i was trying to say when i seen it irl, not the teenage part which was a troll and tbh, i don't take this subreddit that seriously either so my posts might be exeggrated to troll a few users here
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/22 07:48 PM
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because its the same thing
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/22 07:47 PM
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caucasian
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/22 07:42 PM
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my post history or my deviantart: https://www.deviantart.com/yumethenekomata/gallery
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/22 07:40 PM
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this is a troll post
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/22 07:39 PM
2

eveet
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/22 07:39 PM
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i draw shitty fanart sometimes is that ok
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/22 07:36 PM
2

arasan herşey real
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/22 07:36 PM
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thats plasticsurgerypill im too ugly for their standards and sk is racist + my parents would hate interracial
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/22 07:35 PM
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if your logic was true, then lesbians would also be mentally ill since two women can't reproduce. no, i have seen it irl as well the teen boy thing was a joke shitpost
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/22 07:29 PM
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sure but women watching yaoi or gay porn isn't a huge majority either
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 07:27 PM
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never wanted o have sex with an irl female either my hormones are at normal levels
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/22 07:08 PM
1

i do go, but still find most men ugly or uninteresting
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/22 06:54 PM
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why are you surprised? men fetishizing lesbians is pretty well-known so this makes sense. it's less due to ''trad-values'' but moreso just a combination of nerdy pornbrain and there just being less material that sexualizes men and boys in a ''non-gay'' way
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:33 PM
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dudes who are into anime? they are often weird if they are into anything besides the normiest anime, and no one looks anime-ish unless they have very specific looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 05:44 PM
1

bro read the post
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/22 03:50 PM
-4

ok why not pay for a whore
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/22 03:37 PM
2

i can put the effort i just dont like having sex
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 03:17 PM
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even the ugliest men can pay for a whore you guys don't want sex, you want the status that comes with being good looking
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/22 01:55 PM
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maybe, its also because a lot of dudes i see irl are ugly or uninteresting
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 11:49 AM
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Its a joke
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 09:49 AM
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Anyone can sense the reason why all they oraise are women from shithole countries, because they don't want to put an effort
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 09:39 AM
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Most females at least like celebs or take the so called ''chad dick' ' im a 22 year old virgin with no boyfriend experience, i literally never been attracted to a real person and wanted to have sex
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/22 09:34 AM
2

I would've done something about it if it was ironic
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 09:19 AM
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Im ok being asexual
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/22 09:12 AM
2

Not gross, just not sexual
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 09:12 AM
1

Don't need to have relationships to observe human behaviour
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 09:08 AM
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It's not really a problem for me
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 09:02 AM
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I'm attracted to neither sex, read post. Liking a feminine dude isn't being a lesbian though either way, in fact i think that look imitates more of a boyish young look than a womanly one
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/22 08:39 AM
1

Anyways would you say im asexual
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/22 08:21 AM
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I have female friends More than what can you say for half of the users here Also taking this as a blackpill when i'm clearly abnormal.
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/22 08:14 AM
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I just wasn't interested, idk
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 07:47 AM
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I don't, mostly because i was disinterested
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 07:32 AM
2

22 :(
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 07:24 AM
2

No guys are ugky outside
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 07:16 AM
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My fanclub (i also draw shitty fanart)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:57 AM
1

Even if this was true(which it isn't) 1-Interracial would be an issue for me due to reasons i won't disclose(no the reason isn't looks) 2- no way i'd come close at all to korean beauty standards
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/22 06:49 AM
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I don't think that's common in women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:43 AM
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Sea is even worse lol those women care more about betabuxxing than sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:42 AM
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Betabux/greencard ukrainian wife
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:23 AM
4

I literally only find anime porn sexual i hate myself
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:23 AM
1

I want anime boy it won't happen
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/22 06:21 AM
1

This isn't matibg or biology it's some homoerotic shit
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/22 05:10 AM
0

This sub is about dudes wanting to get laid or get girlfriends Also there's a difference between working out and roidcelling
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/22 04:11 AM
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Do you only see roidcels getting girls or female simps? Never saw a prettyboy or a slim dude getting a girl? Evopsych is junk science to begin with that no one uses irl but even with that steroids are a very recent fashion.
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/22 04:08 AM
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I have irl female friends, they like prettyboys more than roided That's what i based it on, seems straightforward
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/22 03:57 AM
2

I have friends but still don't like people sexually
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/22 03:43 AM
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That's not what i said lol i just said Prettyboymaxxing works better for some than gymcelling, which i can confirm since i have female friends unlike half of the dudes posting here.
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/22 03:40 AM
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Bruh i like anime guys not manly men
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/22 03:38 AM
2

Not really
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/22 02:12 AM
2

Yes :(
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/22 09:28 PM
1

women at 40's or 50's don't look great, but you're telling this to someone who dislikes how most men at 30's look
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/22 05:42 PM
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i said they don't ''look'' the same, while girls actually do, so liking teen girls is a cope
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/22 01:56 PM
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gay men don't have less testosterone than straight men, that's a myth also it's less androgyny moreso just neoteny, neoteny combined with some masculine features can still be cute.
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/22 01:50 PM
1

but guys at 18 and 25 don't really look the same.
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/22 01:48 PM
1

girls at 20s and 15 look almost the same lol
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/22 01:35 PM
1

nah its mostly just having a cute face, not sexual orientation
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/22 01:35 PM
1

Yes but they aren't lusted over by millions like a heartthrob or an idol would be, contrary to popular belief merely getting a relationship isn't impossible for ugly men, it only really matters for casual sex or being a playboy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 10:17 AM
0

They do have a point, you can't sell someone like michael cera or danny devito just because of their ''status' '
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 05:13 AM
1

I ended up ugly wish my mom was more selective
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 07:24 PM
1

Generally speaking does jbw even apply anymore? There was a tall white guyhere who was raising 5'5 black dude's mulatto kids on reddit jfl According to stats the only race where females date out more is east asian, which realistically should mean racepill would only effect them and no one else that much , even then K-media raised their smv ia lot compared to 2009
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 07:22 PM
1

Most women aren't on dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 07:11 PM
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Non white guys often get wives from shithole countries too, this üs often ignored
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 07:04 PM
1

it's usually men above 65 who suicide the most.
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/22 09:59 AM
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'' My sourcable information is dating apps''
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 06:20 AM
2

Casual sex is degenerate and you will run into oddities yes, but most girls crave romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 06:15 AM
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I'm single, i also never seen that harem relationship among my friends, what i see is average guys with average girls
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 06:12 AM
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Nobody is with middle eastern harems, stop readimg incel forums
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 06:05 AM
3

Because you are failing for incel forum myths
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 06:03 AM
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another thing, youth being overpraised in women while men are free to look older makes women want to maximize their youth as much as possible, which means no kids housing being way too expensive and being broke in general is another for both men and women
/r/AllPillDebate02/10/22 03:21 PM
5

it's usually men above 65 who suicide the most.
/r/AllPillDebate02/10/22 03:07 PM
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because western men wanted easy sex, this is it's consequence men lead the women in their community, this is western men's(at least, the ones in power's) fault.
/r/AllPillDebate02/10/22 03:06 PM
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''also metrosexual was a niche even in those days'' no, but generally a man being ''eatrosexual'' was shamed by sociery and most dudes in daily life and TV were, either ''rugged manly'' or ''average joe'', most dudes in average settings didn't even really have the balls to do makeup or dress flamboyantly, did women like guys who merely groomed? well yes, men who dress well and take care of their hair and skin report better results. ''Despite they don't.'' men themselves tell they find women in 2…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 10:23 AM
1

''It was this way not any more.'' it still kinda is, majority of media is still marketed towards men or an ambigous demogrpahic with men being the directors and staff, and black men's popularity from rap days still persists. ''They also said women be open to metrosexual men. Look at what happened there. It basically died out.'' i see women from my age group or even older fangirling over random prettyboys today, also metrosexual was a niche even in those days, most normie movies or men in media t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 10:04 AM
0

A lot of video game series have equal or more female heavy fanbase, this isn't really true in 2022, at best you could say men like more ''hardcore'' games while women like more ''cutesy'' games, but both are games in the end, these are just semantics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 08:46 AM
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Even with video games being for men, i think almost an equal percentage of women play them
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 07:03 AM
1

There's no evidence that staying on dating apps isn't detrimental to men
/r/AllPillDebate02/10/22 06:25 AM
0

22
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/22 11:03 PM
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isn't that becoming more obsolete as women start to make money themselves and a lot of men are broke even at 30's?
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/22 09:05 PM
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its generally not t but DHT even then, men generally have more t and DHT before 40's, so it's also a sign of your body getting weaker to the effects of it, per se.
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/22 09:04 PM
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Yes stats And again, this thread is made by an older man who's offended women his age see themselves as equal value as him
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/22 05:13 PM
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Never said it doesn't happen but it happens much lesser than the reverse, 35 year old women thinking men their age are post wall then complaining on forums isn't normalized or common either The fact older men complaining about older women seeing themselves as equal to older men in this very thread shows women are more ''blackpilled about aging' '
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/22 03:42 PM
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''I would because it didn't. Rap and jazz/blues made black men more popular.'' but music genres and exposure through made them more popular, why can't this apply to asians? media in america is controlled by mainly a few men who get to say what is approved or what sells, there wasn't much demand for black men before the music scene. and this is tiktok age group data:https://wallaroomedia.com/blog/social-media/tiktok-statistics/ ''You besides proven you don't understand what trends/phases are? Tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 01:13 PM
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''Don't care. Also there's been a long history of Russian people marrying and dating Asians. So no this doesn't prove your point.'' there are also middle eastern, european in general, and even south asian to an extent who do this, again google videos and you will see it being a trend, remember the poster said only russian ALONE was higher, this means other categories were also higher, even random korean forum users are talking about how much more korean men non-korean men pairings they see on st…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 12:43 PM
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''You really should learn to read and stop making strawmans.'' i actually got the link from a korean poster on a forum, so i trust that it's an analysis of marriages(which says more korean men married russian women than korean women marrying european men altogether) ''Ya it is when likely thousands were considered before it was made to a list of 100.'' and how do you know more asian men weren't on the thousands that were considered? we only know the top 100 ''Despite saying this as its been your…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 11:41 AM
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then the men they matched with also would get off
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 11:02 AM
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then the men would also get off, why is it o hard to believe dating apps are just shitty
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/22 11:01 AM
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''How can I debunk something I can not read? I don't know Korean.'' go translate it? ''it's not in english so it isn't a trustable source'' isn't an argument ''Thanks for proving my point.'' 24 out of 100 isn't a small number, jungkook also was the first place prior year, 2021 had an asian guy and also had 24 more winners too, clearly they are making in lists even if they aren't the absolute most popular. ''Talk about making a strawman. I don't care about Hollywood. My so called assumption holds…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 10:26 AM
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i think its also because i prefer cuteness? hard to find in most guys
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/22 08:35 AM
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always said it's men who hurt men the most, yet people take fat feminists on twitter more seriously than businessmen.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 08:26 AM
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22, already think highschool boys were better looking but im still a virgin sad agepill
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/22 08:25 AM
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a lot of guys here complain about post-wall women but again, i think women are more ''blackpilled'' about age.
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/22 08:22 AM
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this is a shitpost also i missed out cute teens :(
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/22 08:09 AM
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can't realte, i'm in college and boys at highschool looked better
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/22 08:09 AM
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can't really know without testing, but still a lot of soyboys bald and a ot of manly looking men don't there are also racial differences in balding, but not raial hormone levels
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/22 07:52 AM
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got tested? eh, there are a lot of soyboys who bald while men with masculine big builds who don't, it's moreso DHT there are even racial differences between balding, while no real difference between racial t
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/22 07:51 AM
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got tested? eh, there are a lot of soyboys who bald while men with masculine big builds who don't, it's moreso DHT
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/22 07:49 AM
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most men aare objectively ugly after 25 objectively ugly under 25 too, but you get what i mean
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/22 07:28 AM
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most of those men will probably find underage attractive too, come on you could say the same for older men, but most have the morals to not go after an 18 year old boy at 33, most women just don't think 45 year old wrinkly ballsack looking dudes complainin about the ''wall'' is hyprocritical, not the same as thinking you get better most redpillers say men peak at like 35 or 45 but no one criticizes that and thinks only women think they age like fine wine, men are much more delusional about this.…
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/22 06:36 AM
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i've never seen a woman say they peak at 30, while redpillers say men peak at 45
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/22 06:34 AM
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... I'm younger than 25,unfortunately i look older than my age as well
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/22 01:19 AM
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Most women prefer their age, i haven't seen 30 year old women bashing 30 year old men as ''post-wall' ' and going for 15-25 year old boys, it is statistically rare Heck incel forums even have 25 year old dudes discuss 14 being ' 'prime' ' and hating on ' 'agecucks' ' do women have any similar equivalent?
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/22 01:05 AM
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Yes, the thing is i think most women accept that, so the premise is wrong
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/22 01:03 AM
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Yes but isn't that '' betabuxxing'' reddit contradicts itself a lot I don't see how someone who thinks 18 is the peak wouldn't find 15 year olds attractive, i do like young looking guys myself but i'm the minority, whereas men who prefer teen girls are common
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/22 12:57 AM
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No women thinks they get better with age we all know most men are borderline pedo Getting better with aging is mostly some redpill men coping, rarely women
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/22 12:29 AM
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I still hate the fact im the rare breed of girl that likes younger looking guys
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/22 12:19 AM
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Maybe you just are uglier in general or have some kind of failo besides looking young that keeps you down? Im pretty sure hairline not receeding is considered more attractive than a receeding hairline Tiktok guys who look young also do well despite not being celebs
/r/AllPillDebate30/09/22 11:57 PM
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Really? A lot of celebs women like are youthful prettyboys
/r/AllPillDebate30/09/22 11:50 PM
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18-19 is the only legal group I could go for a guy in 20's or 30's who looks young but, hard to get without online
/r/AllPillDebate30/09/22 11:46 PM
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Hairy as in facial and body hair, not hair on top of head Come on it's not normal to fuck with a teen boy, im also ugly and older looking so it would be even more wrong But this is a shitpost anyway
/r/AllPillDebate30/09/22 11:42 PM
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this is a shitpost
/r/AllPillDebate30/09/22 11:16 PM
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this is a shitpost
/r/AllPillDebate30/09/22 11:15 PM
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why the fuck are we talking about ''minorities'' about a show where all characters are ''asian''
/r/AllPillDebate30/09/22 06:45 PM
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it somehow worked for them judging by the amount of koreaboos
/r/AllPillDebate30/09/22 06:41 PM
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''Talk about making assumptions. You like your own source make the assumption women are going to Korea because of kpop. And incels aren't going to Korea or any other Asian place because even if they had the money as your own article says they don't take kindly to foreigners.'' a lot of white dudes used to go there due to stereotypes actually, ''loser back home'' going to thailand or japan was famous it's literally a meme, korea is the only country so far where female tourists outnumber the male …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 12:53 PM
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well if korea was known for ''sex'' then the audience would mostly be incel foreign men who were tired of ''fat feminists'' in their home(aka thailand) not nerdy young k-media consuming women, the highlighted thing here is why the audience is mostly female and why relationships korean men have with foreign women outnumber the relationships korean women have with foreign men, even though this used to be the reverse. ​ source?: https://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=dcbest&no=28437 korean analys…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 11:16 AM
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even online, you have girls simping over for skinny ass men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 10:09 AM
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https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1573960036216580&set=pb.100080126134239.-2207520000.. you seriously think chico lachowski with the pictured psyque wouldn't pull women without lifting? generally not be fat and have a good face is enough for most women, there just is a legit obesity epidemic in both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 10:07 AM
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Japan is even safer than korea though, why is japan still having more men visit them and more european men marry japanese women than the reverse? (in korea 2021,more russian women married korean men than any kind of european men marrying korean women altogether, other categories were higher too) maybe korean media is just a lot more popular among women? (i'm pretty sure someone who finds korean men attractive could also do with japanese men, but media halo overrides biology these days) There are…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 09:34 AM
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is pointing out both korea and the west have much higher beauty standards for women wherea older and uglier men are accepted is hating on men? it's a very neutral statement.
/r/AllPillDebate30/09/22 07:48 AM
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because women have higher beauty standards, and most women aren't attracted to ugly men (in korea or in the west, def not korea where 50 kg is fat , and i would argue western media loves shilling ugly fat or old men with beautiful young women) (i don't actually want the korean system, i know that their beauty standards and overall standards for anything for women is harsher.)
/r/AllPillDebate30/09/22 07:40 AM
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Because a lot of other countries are fine with men being ugly but not the women Even korea has much harsher beauty standards for women than men though
/r/AllPillDebate30/09/22 06:57 AM
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main lead isn't even white in this ''non-woke'' series, nor is anyone else for that matter
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/22 08:14 PM
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yeah they are based for that but their beauty standards for women are suifuel
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/22 08:13 PM
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firstly those studies are almost 10 years old, at 2014 at most, no new data to say anything, 2014 was before kpop was a mainstream thing. second, those studies, even if they weren't old, do include ALL asian groups not just korean. a thai guy, or even an indian guy will be included and those groups DO NOT look like an average korean man let alone one that gets plastic surgery and makeup to fit a very specific mold. how are korean guys doing you say? : https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/south…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:05 PM
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firstly the etreme steroid fitness is a standard set by men, because even if a lot of women like it, it's something promoted in media ny men in hollywood and superhero comics. second, they wouldn't be called dad bod or fat today, especially if you consider the average guy today is legit overweight, while this wasn't the case in 70's. third, generally being not fat is enough for a guy with a good face, even blackpill spaces point out to chico lachowski for example, this dude probably never lifted…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:02 PM
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Maybe i'm wrong but i see more and more korean male celebs with monolids compared to the past, while double eyelids remain as best for female standard
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/22 02:32 PM
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Isn't that something mainly women do?
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/22 02:22 PM
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The webtoon had good rrviews though i'm not familiar with it yet, i might read.
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/22 01:55 PM
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Don't mena like white puss tho Harder as in having less smv not having less rights
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/22 12:53 PM
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This is korean
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/22 12:51 PM
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For a female too
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/22 12:40 PM
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Lgbt propaganda will never go away but it's also partly because anime/manga/k-drama proved an undeniable profit
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/22 11:56 AM
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I didn't know about the webtoon before netflix trailer but the premise reminded me of how incels.is or looksmaxx.org users acted, this is also probably being watched by normies
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/22 11:20 AM
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C.pe Most women get bf's outside
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 06:33 PM
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It's moreso my face rather than body that creates a problem, i can send if you are curious and can give advices but it isn't necessary ig
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 09:34 AM
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isn't it hyprocritical to want a religious girl if you're atheist islam even forbids religious women to marry non-religious men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 06:34 PM
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i'm kind of a youthful prettyboy fan, the only group who retains that at 30s i found were asian celebrities good for other groups of men to take care of their skin though. without tanning, their skin tone is going to be exotic to pretty much all groups of women except white, now i get it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 06:32 PM
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isn't it usually asian girls who are the flattest? though it might be because asian guys prefer very skinny girls judging by beau standards aren't white guys also atheist...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 06:31 PM
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they used to only say that about asians and latinas, nowadays because of white girls starting feminism they say even black girls are easier i wonder who can deal with feminist women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 06:22 PM
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Hollyweird is too much for me, i'd rather watch anime, kdrama or at least older hollywood stuff it is funny because ethnic men were saying hollywood made them les desirable at least in the older days (mostly south asian and east asian guys) i guess white guys racemixing happens at a higher rate these days due to them finding non-white girls ''easier'' personally there are a lot of good looking white guys but most of them tank in looks after 26 or so, i kinda want guys to last about 45 or 40 at l…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 06:02 PM
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They usually only do this with black men though, seeing an asian or indian or arab guy promoted with white women is pretty rare. Why are they more accepting of non-white men?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 05:35 PM
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The world will be made up of mixed kids of all kinds of pairings in the future anyway from my guesses My friend told me the ''black women are ugly and mannish' ' propaganda existed less in europe, so media has an effect just as i guessed, hm
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 05:19 PM
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Do we have actual stats though? I'll be honest i never understood why indian girls were called ugly when they were just darker white girls
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 05:17 PM
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But you guys still have the majority and probably will since white guys are sort of cucks and like to promote black men while calling black women ugly Actually according to this table, no one except east asian (both sea and nea) should complain about jbw(and even then they can geomaxx to actually good countries)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 05:12 PM
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Date=/=watch porn of
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/22 05:01 PM
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It goes to 2009 at most, and on that data 354, 000 of it is bmwf while 196,000 of it is wmbf Look at the table
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 05:01 PM
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I just feel im missing something when 12-15 year old girls were cute and feminine while i already was too masc or matured at that point, i accepted it won't happen now but it kinda hurts i missed that period Also i have no idea what styles would suit me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:57 PM
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You explained my past post better than i could, capitalism is screwing with all of us
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:52 PM
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If it's not white girls it's either light skinned asian girls or latina girls though, rarely black or indian
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:42 PM
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Wheres this stat from? From my marriage stats it was the reverse with bmwf outnumbering, from anectodes, i saw more bmwf too. I feel like east asian have it the worst in usa because even with kpop they have to outdate at more than half or geomaxx to make up for the outdating stat of wmaf, though you interestingly have this reversed in south korea where %19 of marriages with korean women were with foreign men, meanwhile a whopping %67 of korean men married foreign women in 2021(foreign is mostly …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:41 PM
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I'm saying this because i know another one who tried to look asian, he actually had a better result than this But i'll never be cute and i already look old anyway, better to look cute at least once in your life than to cope with ''i'll look 40 at 50.'' still i'm too scared to do plastic surgery I can send old pics if you're morbidly curious but there's no coping with it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:35 PM
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I think he's trolling here because that's not surgery proceduces someone does to look asian at all (literally wrong eyes lol) let alone park jimin I wish i looked cutesy like other girls but oh well, it's not like i'll actually want to have sex either way
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:26 PM
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Statistically lower than bmwf still, i honestly think wmbf happened because black guys simped for white puss too much(god among smv) South asian guys and northeast asian guys whine sooo much on internet because of wmaf and muh dating app stats actually, tbh white girls usually don't like them much but they can farm kpoppers or anime fangirls
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:22 PM
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why aren't black and indian women going for white men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:06 PM
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Dating apps
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/22 02:46 PM
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I prefer cutesy looks, i look more masculine or mature for that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 02:46 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/AllPillDebate/comments/xk9i00/suifuel_for_women_most_men_are_gay/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/22 02:14 PM
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Most guys i know secretly like transgender or femboy porn
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/22 02:11 PM
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It's a joke guys stop being lame losers
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/22 01:52 PM
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Not men fetishizing women, men fetishizing women who get with other women in particular. If you are a bts fan you will know how common gay shipping with bts is
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/22 12:12 PM
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Well, i got apprpached online but never irl, im still volcel tho, kinda asexual You can still find escorts
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/22 12:09 PM
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Technically ''incels' 'don't exist either, even the lowest status guy can pay for a whore
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/22 12:07 PM
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I don't like my face and probably never will(don't like my body either but hey, i can try to diet harder, not actually fat but my body type makes me that ill only look thin and if underweight) but surgery is uncanny valley
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 12:04 PM
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It's a joke stop being a loser
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/22 12:00 PM
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Girl
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/22 11:59 AM
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those ''straight'' men are secretly jacking off to femboy and transgender or catboy porn, never trust men who say they are straight, they don't exist. i sometimes got aroused to gay anime porn when i was younger, femcel things :((
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/22 11:34 AM
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There are a lot of girls who specifically want to date asiansn this day and age, why are men only looking out on dating apps instead of trying to hunt these girls in online spaces? Like i'm not even searching for this demographic yet i seen girls with asian fetishes online a lot A hapa incel youtuber guy went from incel to having shit ton of body counts this way
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 09:26 AM
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balding, fat, old looking is the average? most married men i see are this the kind of dudes i find attractive (clean cut fashionable prettyboys) are in no way common where i live, however i'm still trying to be objective here, i don't find most women pretty either, i don't even find myself pretty
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 07:36 AM
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I almost never see attractive men ugly girls outside, i always see ugly men or oofy doofy at best
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 07:26 AM
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I rarely see attractive men outside of social media, don't see them dating fatties either
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 07:11 AM
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I'm a virgin woman at 22,to be honest i somehow didn't crave sex or relationships.
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/22 07:09 AM
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Women not having sexual drives is a myth, however to suggest it's more than men only had the purpose of showing women as amoral and animal-like so they could control women. In a way it's similar to how blacks were shown to be hypersexual and rapey back in the ''days' ' again, trying to justify them being' 'kept in control' ' we side have texts written by women very commonly
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:56 AM
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men could fuck each other and force themselves to work for each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 09:42 PM
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i'm a loserly autistic woman, i'm not totally asexual, but almost there.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 09:41 PM
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except we have biological proof of it, women who take T become hornier for one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 09:40 PM
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there are some young women who specifically like men from another ethnicity, it's usually not outright sex tourism and it's a rare demogrpahic who do that though
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 08:33 PM
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To africa or southeast asia i assume? Might be because those countries are the only ones with openly male prostitutes. where in particular? just curious
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 03:13 PM
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I assume they were creating narratives to justify control of women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 03:00 PM
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Less standards in undevoloped countries, women also need men there for resources
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 02:50 PM
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Because of makeup, but they are attractive due to prettiness and facial harmony(though not fully mainstream in west yet) Without makeup a lot of them start looking closer to some high tier normie korean men Of course what is hot or not is highly subjective to the woman, sometimes they find outright ugliness hot
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 10:15 PM
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those models looksmaxx uses that look unnatural and maybe possibly teen boys
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 09:08 PM
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Because white women and men are the ideal beauty standard in USA, duh(white women especially as ligter skin color is portrayed as feminine in media, although scientifically skin color doesn't have to do with testosterone or estrogen levels or anything related to feminization masculinization, this part also explains why it's black men the most that have particular out of race preference in america) . But someone raised in asia or africa could prefer asian men/women or black men/women(for japan/ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 11:00 PM
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Salma hayek, adriana lima, angelina jolie at 30's and maybe karen fukuhara now are examples i can think of where they were famous. Also worth mentioning those industries were ran by mostly men, of course they would be fond of the older men younger women trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 08:33 PM
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A lot of women like how 25 year olds look, but don't prefer them for a relationship due to seeing them as too immature or lacking in resources, both are reasons not concerning looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 06:48 PM
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Some korean boyband popular among gen z today, who the members are not that important, just know that they look a bit younger than their age and also not very masculine due to makeup and such, and they get a lot of hate from some men due to this reason despite not being in any real controversy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 06:46 PM
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Black as in Black american men, that isn't a different country. Try it out in an african tribe or even japan, they wouldn't prefer white women. Except that those men weren't even ''gay' ' they were bisexual men who sometimes liked underage boys because of their perceived ' 'femininity' ' or whatever. I think that's psychological and different from the lgbt dudes of today. Exposure effecting preferences or likeability has a science: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2705986/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 06:41 PM
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Because women care about things other than looks, men usually don't,again morality
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 06:29 PM
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Basically people called him girly and gay or other shit, despite the fact he got more puss than them anyway Same thing with bts members today
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 06:19 PM
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Yes millionaire dudes can pick younger women, that doesn't really have to do with their looks but their money. We aren't disputing that men like younger women or that younger women look better, we are just saying that both younger women and men look better.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 06:14 PM
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Beauty standards for both men and women are different in different countries and time periods, a simple research would suffice. Nuclei combination? They simply liked teen or preteen boys for looking androgynous (which led to pedophilia as +20 men were more masculine, especially at the time where grooming wasn't available) and teen girls because without morals, anyone entering puberty was a-ok, this is more of a psychological thing I indeed believe exposure to porn at a young age can make people …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 06:06 PM
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Well, he got a lot of hate because teen girls liked him instead of the stereotypical chad type.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 06:00 PM
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Morality and social norms does effect more than you think, besides the pool is made by askşng men and women what they would prefer for relationship, not through by calculating arousal or asking about arousal. Then why is it making a difference besides morals? Most women prefer their own age which signals to ne that they want someone they could relate to, not because of looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 05:59 PM
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All kinds of, this is why different cultures prefer different things. Yes also girls, neither of them can be explained by biology and both pedophilia and homosexuality was probably more widespread before religion made people accept it as morally wrong, thankfully. (not that i'm religious, or mind two adult men having a relationship, only brought up homosexuality part because you said orientation can't be changed by norms in a population, most men in past probably were bisexual) there are also me…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 05:47 PM
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People's preferences are indeed influenced by cultural norms and media. People's orientations are to some extent... It's terrible but adult men fucking teen boys was normalized before religion,at least among aristocracy. (which is one example of norms changimg sexual orientation)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 05:29 PM
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If 35 is the peak fertility then why don't women at that age prefer the peak fertile men? The reason older women prefer older men is because of morality and resources. Not because of biological peak.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 05:24 PM
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You seriously don't remember Justin Bieber or bts hate?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 05:21 PM
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What she means is they are afraid of women bring more powerful every year. Not that i agree women would all become hebephiles like men had they get the power. But that's what she meant
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 05:11 PM
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But women in that age group prefer the same age, that graph showed the ideal age women wanted only became 30 when they were 30. That part makes the peak age thing a redpill c.pe
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 05:09 PM
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I'm not making shit up, it was pretty common to shit on teen girls for liking prettyboys instead of hypermasculine men, even though she was a literal kid
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 05:06 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 04:11 PM
2

Most 16 year old girls look same as 18 or even 20,if dudes think older than 21 is that ugly they probably also like 15 year olds
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 04:10 PM
2

They say about 18-22 is ideal, do you think this looks different enough from 15-16 year old girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 04:07 PM
2

Not even manosphere denies that being young is more important for women, which makes men more pedo by default
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 03:33 PM
1

where did you live
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 02:14 PM
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they get the prison sentence, it's mostly males themselves who consider it lucky because to them, fucking a milf is ''manly'' are you seriously suggesting teen boys or boys who look like teens are as sexualized as teen girls? they get more risk from gay men if anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 02:12 PM
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Human's nature is to find whatever is the ''norm' ' the most attractive, but this isn't a female only thing, males find black women the least attractive due to stereotypes and media showing them as such. Why is cultural programming made out to be a female thing? I' m not denying cultural programming is a thing, but it's not a female exclusive thing In russia, ukraine and south korea, there are more ethnic men white women relationships than the reverse due to what would be the ''norm' ' in those …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 12:18 PM
0

gigachad is a trope of a hypermasculine or at least highschool jock looking dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 09:38 AM
1

sad reality
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 08:03 AM
4

there are a lot of women who prefeer clean shaven.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 08:01 AM
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men always had a fear of young looking prettyboys for some reason, justin bieber, young leo, boybands of the past and nowadays the korean celebs.(a lot of them aren't that young, but korean celebs look younger anyway)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 07:40 AM
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nah, there just are more male pedos or any kind of sexual deviants due to male biology
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 07:36 AM
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White men being the most attractive is also media and culture influence to an extent, almost every norm is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 07:17 AM
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in that there are more male pedophiles, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 11:14 PM
2

there are some 30 year old women who look younger
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 10:59 PM
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After another 10-20 years passes men will overexeggrate this and imply all women are pedos, just like how the looks don't matter thing evolved into ''women only want chad' '
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 10:50 PM
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I heard some of my friends in early 20's say teenage boys look better than guys their age Rare though
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 10:47 PM
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Younger men don't have lower smv, the fantasy of 45 year old dude getting 18 year old girl is the actual c.pe
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 10:46 PM
1

and? young fit attractive men aren't chasing after unattractive women for having a great personality, it isn't a female only thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 09:58 PM
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You describe as young fit pretty women as being shallow while ''ugly women' ' liking attractive men. I' m like, ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 08:41 PM
1

And why are you complaining about gigachad when you ignore fat or ugly or older women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 07:24 PM
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The last time i looked, it was only east asian, maybe latino too(?) but latin men also outmarry at a very high rate so whatever, these were 2015 stats The data groups east asian and south asian as together so do a little more digging. And if there is an increased interest for white men, that would probably be because of them having better status and media representation than other men. Not due to some mysterious reason of female nature, you could say the same about black women being unnattractiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 07:04 PM
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Men peak later mainly because most older women don't want younger men and that a lot of men are legit pedo adjacent
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 06:44 PM
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The actual marrying out statistics say that more black or indian men married white women than the reverse(and latinos both have a very high intermarriage stat regardless of gender) you can check this out or even observe it irl, the only common interdating with white men is wmaf. Also you're forgetting there isn't even a racial dating statistic in 2020's being made, the absolute latest is 2014. Love how men will deny the light skinned woman worship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 06:42 PM
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That still means men of any race date out more except east asian men , which still makes jbw or white being a requirement a myth regardless as indian or black women aren't exactly flocking to white men. For your other question I'd say it's pretty popular among gen z, and america isn't the only country in the world either
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 06:32 PM
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it's probably effecting a little, and maybe, some women are getting cheated.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 06:02 PM
1

if a 25 year old dates an 30 year old dude then that counts as ''younger women dating older men'' to stats even though you'd probably imagine about at least 10 years older for it to be noticeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 05:56 PM
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there isn't an updated stat, but still in literally every race except east asian the men date out more than the women. but even then, asian men x non asian women couples are also growing recently due to k-media influence.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 05:53 PM
6

outdated dating statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 05:48 PM
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in pretty much all races, the men date out more except east asian(but they are getting popular due to korean media anyway!) jbw is a myth heightwise, most women date about 5 inches taller than them which is the exact average, most people don't want fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 05:47 PM
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It could be counting someone 5 year older as in the '' different age group category'' Harems are a fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 03:48 PM
1

https://youtu.be/t3GJvMfzSZw
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/22 03:31 PM
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I think women like or post about attractive men isn't the wrong thought The wrong thought is what is attractive or not
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 01:15 PM
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A lot of young women prefer prettyboys
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 12:50 PM
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Most women like attractive men That men being 6'6 with giant muscles as a must is the wrong thought
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 12:49 PM
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i'm moreso talking about the ''smv'' part, men will talk about how being non-white lowers their smv, while also claiming that dark skinned women are inherently ugly, pretty much any culture prefers fairer skin on women right now.(which is why black or indian women might have the inferiority complexes on the first place) also black men and indian men overfocus on white women more than their opposite gender countersparts, the dating stats say more black men and indian men date out compared to blac…
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/22 11:37 AM
1

most people at 30 don't really look that old most people hit the hay at young ages due to wars or diseases, healthy or higher class people still ived for at least 70 years
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 11:27 AM
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that's because older womenn message older women, no 18 year old is lining up to date 50 year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 11:23 AM
1

leonardo only really has status because he was hot when he was young
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 11:23 AM
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broad shoulders and frame are completely done by 25, and facial devolopment to an extent they matter more than muscularity, muscularity itself matters more to gay men or older women. most men can grow some facial hair at 20's (depending on ethnicity) but i prefer clean shaved lastly, super masculine is somewhat of an urban western preference that is slowly but surely, going away. gen z or 18-25 age group already has a heavier prettyboy preference than milennials. also you could also say 18-20 ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 11:15 AM
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in terms of looks, the only reason men peak later at age at all is because women often care about things other than looks
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 11:09 AM
1

Just what i said
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/22 08:00 PM
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Yes, but we have school and then we need to get into a job! We don't have the luxury of sucking off our parents either due to increasingly crappy economy(also why obesity increasing and fertility rate decreasing)
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/22 07:56 PM
1

I was a youtubecel or facebook gamescel in early 2000's, honestly want to go back to my childhod
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/22 07:49 PM
1

?
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/22 07:41 PM
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but it's not a deal killer, white men's smv comes more from their status and media portrayal rather than their skin color. if what you said was true then a japanese dude would logically have higher smv than black dude(this applies to a few places, but not usa)
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/22 04:58 PM
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Having light skin matters more for female smv in western culture lol case in point black males smv is less penalized than black females, while a light skinned asian female is less penalized than light skinned asian female (changing with kpop but still) not that i personally agree with the ideology of dark skin=masculine but that's what westerners think
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/22 04:54 PM
1

Having light skin matters more for female smv lol l
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/22 04:50 PM
2

Face can be a lot more attractive if supported by makeup, a decent haircut, skin care, leaning and dressing well. If all else fails, women also do plastic surgery more
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/22 08:36 AM
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Someone's skin color doesn't, but the culture they are raised in does, you aren't going to argue india or china or afghanistan are as liberal as any of the western countries, are you? Either way what you're bringing up are reddit subs, not actual stats
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/22 01:19 AM
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Also housing being expensive as shit People used to buy houses in their 20's
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 01:15 AM
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Racism sucks but everyone is a victim of it. ''straight white men' ' thing is a meme, you aren't going to find an indian, arab or a chinese guy being as liberal as an european guy in reality
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/22 01:12 AM
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Well his mom is white, there's your sawf couple xD You're in a reddit sub called ''exmuslim' ' if an ethnic woman throws her conservative values for a liberal one, which man will be ideal for her? A liberal one, which probably is mostly a white guy. It's like me going to a kpop forum then saying that girls love east asian guys, the truth is you're in a biased echo chamber just like going into a kpop forum would be. What matters is actual staristics which say south asian women marry out the least…
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/22 01:07 AM
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But not many indian women date or marry out in the first place, so racepill shouldn't be a problem for them. Even then, attractive south asian men still can do well, zayn malik is an example
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/22 12:55 AM
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I had a classmate who fetishized east asian men, east asian fetishes are more common than you think, especially outside of anglo countries. Most incel dudes shit on black women while complaining about jbw, even if jbw is valid they are hypocrites for liking white skin themselves
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/22 12:51 AM
1

Well yes, nowadays media and porn push gay stuff
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/22 12:11 AM
1

No one has been punished for buttfucking for years
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/22 12:09 AM
2

People blame inceldom but it's honestly just porn who did this more than anything else
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 11:39 PM
2

Tr*ps are gay
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 11:05 PM
2

Straight men are unicorns
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 11:01 PM
1

only like by %1 more
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 07:46 PM
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not ''being gay'' in itself, but the femboy stuff is mostly based on porn addiction + is resembling of pederasty since a man passing as a woman probably requires him to be very young or boyish looking. a lot of this stuff is crippling porn addiction rather than natural orientation. it's also telling of how easy to solve incel problems is
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 06:13 PM
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if anyone can't tell i'm shitposting a little bit
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 05:30 PM
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Most incels are turned on by femboys, transgender or big dicks or whatever, maybe not most but a lot. I also see femboy as a precursor to pederasty (since a man who can pass as a woman probably looks very young or boyish) so it disturbs me a bit
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 05:22 PM
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i'm honestly just shitposting here but you're right, incels should just go homo since they already are i don't think it's just incels tbh, a lot of men nowadays have seecret gay or pederast tendencies
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 05:14 PM
2

seems like a lot of incels solution is to go gay, since the are closet gay already.
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 05:06 PM
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''i'm jerking off to this but i don't like this actually'' is cope, ur gay
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 05:05 PM
-1

suifuel is a joking term
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 05:05 PM
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I wouldn't say most women are Plus femboy is kinda like pederasty, i think it's more degen than regular gays
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 04:36 PM
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Most women wouldn't be happy with their bf being attracted to other guys Plus femboy is almost pederasty tier, more degenerate than actual gays
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 04:34 PM
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Because it's gay, it means their men is bisexual
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 04:31 PM
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Troon is transgender, femboy is a dude who looks like a girl How is a man that isn't black liking bbc straight?
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 04:30 PM
1

most men aren't total incels in the first place.
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 03:52 PM
1

ones on incels is and ironically looksmaxx.org are
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 03:46 PM
1

I just think men should try looksmaxxing more, besides most prettyboys are moreso well groomed men than actually feminine men.
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 03:17 PM
1

But why just LDAR instead of at least trying?
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 03:08 PM
1

You can't avoid blackpillers here, but still don't most meb prefer younger women? And aren't a lot of men in pill scenes fairly young? And younger women care about looks more.
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 03:02 PM
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And most men like younger women, amd a lot of blackpillers are young men complaining about looks.
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 02:51 PM
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blackpill is an ideology mostly defined by ''looks matter more than anything else'' try explaining this to blackpillers instead of me.
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 02:44 PM
1

tinder is the most famous app
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 02:26 PM
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i mean, look at this black dude in thailand : https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LVAMk5xUtqY also, whites aren't even the ''best'' seamaxxers, if i'm not wrong, more koreans seamaxx: https://asia.nikkei.com/Life-Arts/Life/Foreign-wives-in-rural-South-Korea-struggle-to-fit-in ''That year, marriages between a South Korean husband and a foreign wife accounted for 65.7% of marriages, significantly higher than those between a foreign husband and a South Korean wife, at 19.4%.'' most of those marriages in…
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 02:24 PM
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I honestly don't believe that white men can be incels since a large portion of Asian women prefer them over Asian men. if you're referring to ''seamaxxing'' then this can be applied to pretty much any race of men, asian, indian or black men also can seamaxx. if you're referring to asian american girls, they are a minority of the population + even they can tell an incel tier white dude and an attractive one. and no, a lot of blackcels and indiancels prefer white women, heck, elliot rodger himself…
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 02:01 PM
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I don't agree with the idea of an '' attractive race'' but again, if they think light skinned girls are better themselves then they shouldn't complain about women likşng white dudes
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 01:33 PM
1

https://www.businessofapps.com/data/tinder-statistics/
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 01:32 PM
1

That's like if i generalized men based on incels is forum
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 01:30 PM
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And even with that, more black men date white women than the vice versa hapoening, the only race where women outdate more are east asians(even then east asian guys are getting more popular these days than before id argue) My point is incel forums will bash black or dark skinned women then complain about jbw, even though they are doing jbw themselves
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 01:30 PM
1

true but my point isn't even that, my point is that the guys who complain about jbw are white or light skinned girl only themselves.
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 01:02 PM
1

it's easy to study what looks women find attractive.
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 12:49 PM
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https://www.businessofapps.com/data/tinder-statistics/#:\~:text=Tinder%20has%20a%20gender%20imbalance,is%20closer%20to%2050%2F50.
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 12:22 PM
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%75 of women aren't using dating apps to begin with, (as tinder gender ratio is mostly men) men are making harder for themselves by relying on online dating. %70 of men are having sex irl, blackpill is a minority.
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 11:49 AM
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this only applies to bottom tier of men, most men, regardless of their race, aren't total incels and have at least some semblence of standards, go outside. but my point isn't even that, my point is that blackpill spaces complain about jbw despite them also bashing dark skinned women, showing the hypocrisy of their complaint.
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 11:39 AM
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''just be white'' basicallly dudes complaining about women desiring white men and certain ethnicities of men struggling in comparison. which i find to be hyprocritical when blackpill spaces prefer whiter girls themselves
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 11:26 AM
2

makeup and styling does effect face
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 10:31 AM
1

everyone and their mother knows those dudes get makeup and surgery
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 10:30 AM
1

it does give you results.
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 10:30 AM
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if what you said was true then blackpillers discussing lookism everyday alone is a mistake. besides looksmaxxing being focused on women only is a societal standard, not biology and nah, short guy with nice face still gets a few.
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 10:29 AM
1

feminism is a modern concept enforced by ones in power, not something naturally existing blackpillers one mistake is mistaking cultural power for biology
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 09:55 AM
0

why is it that it's accepten women can be prettier with effort but men are stubborn?
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 09:33 AM
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normal men, if you get out of blackpill spaces you'd realize most men aren't total incels and even then most can at least pay for some whore.
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 09:28 AM
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men also lie, women disliking monogamy more than men is just blackpill junkscience, sociology is broscience altogether.
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 09:27 AM
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even the ugliest guy can cheat with an escort, most normies can also cheat, being total incel is a minority. but even if what you said is true, this implies men would cheat even more if they got attention
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/22 07:32 AM
1

It can also just be decoration Again a lot of celebs who do makeup get more puss than anyone here
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/22 08:34 PM
1

Well shit like makeup or whatever is cultural. This isn't biology. Girls simping for well groomed prettyboys is basically every culture
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/22 08:23 PM
1

I seen 5'10 dudes bitch too, also a lot of bitching about women only liking ripped dudes
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/22 08:11 PM
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Standards of masculinity and femininity depend heavily on culture and time period, rich dudes in classical europe dressed in a way that would be called gay today but those were the HVM of that times. I also just don't buy the idea that women would dislike it since michael jackson, 80's rock stars and today's e-boys and kpop boys all got more pussy than everyone on reddit did despite makeup and plastic surgery. I'm also trying to looksmaxx as a female but it's hard when your not rich, can't see a…
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/22 08:10 PM
1

Isn't this like a 100 kg girl complaining about 45 kg girls getting more attention than her? You could say not everyone could sustain being 45 kg for longterm, but even if she drops to like, 60-65 kg it is improving her chances majorly. The thing is if you're whşning about something you gotta adapt.
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/22 07:59 PM
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Isn't it men themselves who shamed it though? If more straight men did it the stigma would probably lift, a lot of celebs do makeup anyway. Either way, guys whining here does nothing, this isn't different than a 100 kg girl complaining about 45 kg girls getting more attention than her(well not everyone can sustain being 45 kg, but she can probably drop to 60-65 kg and even that would improve her chances majorly)
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/22 07:52 PM
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i'm saying men fear it more despite them also doing it more, read post properly.
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/22 06:36 PM
0

ugly men get cast all the time, more than ugly women actually much more old or fat actors than actresses i don't believe the average man is ugly enough that makeup or plastic surgery can' t save him
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/22 06:24 PM
0

even dudes like chris hemsworth do makeup, 80's music stars did it often too.
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/22 06:22 PM
1

*prettyboymaxx but am i wrong? the look could be anything, yet guys just LDAR here, go get plastic surgery to get chadface
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/22 06:19 PM
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men cheat more than men in pretty much any country though.
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/22 05:54 PM
1

even in an absolute case, plastic surgery or hair transplant eist
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/22 05:53 PM
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''status'' can't really sell actually ugly guys like michael cera or danny devito the truth is the usage of makeup being denormalized is a thing men dictated.
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/22 05:52 PM
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Idk, a lot of them like celebrities or kpop guys, both often do plastic surgery and makeup.
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/22 05:04 PM
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Many women like it and if all else fails, plastic surgery
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/22 05:01 PM
1

have you never gone into 4chan? they love ''traps'' there and asian girl fetish is also rampant, thai ladyboys are also famous i theorize it's because asian girls faces and bodies are a bit boyish and neotenous thus femboyish but i honestly have no idea. honestly the only guys i actually care about who like asian girls are asian themselves so i'm not really jealous, but male weebs and asian fetishists made me ashamed to like anime, plus they also push racial stereotypes american cultural hegemon…
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/22 02:56 PM
1

nah, look at 4channers, all of them like femboys and also asian girls, dudes who travel to thailand also fuck troons, i have no idea why myself i actually like how asian girls look btw, it's just the culture around them, i want to enjoy a wholesome kpop girl doing cute gifs then my mind goes around greasy weebs, it's really sad i'm mena, i like asian guys the best tho, shame they arent in my area i'm attracted to both asian guys and also kinda the girls actually. but basically, asian girls in us…
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/22 01:53 PM
2

most women don't really do one night stands, especially if they are from conservative cultures. idk why do you care so much anyway? why like uncivilized primal beast style of women?
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/22 12:04 PM
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they can get horny for men they are attached to, that's just how female sexuality works so for this reason, i'd pprobably say most of them are celebs or influencers
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/22 11:57 AM
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females don't get horny at first for many of men, but that's due to how female sexuality works, that's why men watch porn while women read fanfictions or romance/erotica novels or watch sappy drama.
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/22 11:53 AM
1

are most married men chads? a lot of them are oofy doofy
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/22 11:49 AM
2

considering the world's population, a lot of them.
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/22 11:47 AM
1

asian girl fetishists tend to be bisexual femboy lovers or losers looking for easy pussy too often, i pity these poor girls.
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/22 11:42 AM
1

no one brings this up when an indian dude brings up blonde women not wanting him, despite the fact indians are a minority, but if you bring up white or at least pale women having an advantage, ''duh we're in a white area'' works. and no, i don't live in a full white country, more like mena, we are pale but blondes are rare i'll be honest, i saw more asian guy fetishists in my area than the reverse, we don't think about asians that much, only koreaboos or weebs really raise the special interest i…
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/22 11:38 AM
3

I wouldn't neccessarily say autistic, but a lot of them just don't know women
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 08:39 AM
2

The ''i can fix him' ' trope, most of those characters will also have a secret good side or sad side or be misunderstood etc. So the nice girl will want to heal him,as well as provide some interest or exciting stuff to her Other than that, stories will usually need a conflict to be interesting, whether that's through toxic characters, a tragic death or goodbye that will seperate the lovers, a huge misunderstanding that will resolve itself eventually, a fight, a '' will they get together or not? …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 10:17 PM
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Drawn porn or idk, actually having sex
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 01:39 PM
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i'm 22 myself too, and i'm telling you it's not even rare for me to see this unless you go over +30 or maybe +25 at worst, standards really are actually changing, look at how many e-boys or kpoppers have fans that are over 20 or even 30 sometimes. maybe it isn't common in wherever you live but it's common enough when you look at a wider circle or even just check online, early 20's aren't that different from teens in standards. of course you probably need to look somewhat good or have good social…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 01:13 PM
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I would honestly say 18-25 too, face does more imo unless the guy is a total framelet(which is different from just being thin)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 07:21 AM
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A lot of zoomer women simp for thin tiktok boys
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 11:56 PM
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1-skinny guys aren't seen as particularly unnattractive, most zoomer girls are ok with thin guys with ok faces 2-Online dating only had %25 of the users as women, assume that a good number of those women are bots or scammers, a good majority of women aren't on online dating. Men are making it harder for themselves by sticking into tinder like it's holy bible.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 11:51 PM
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meh i still get internet creeps either way
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/22 11:00 PM
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i wanted to be the cutesy kawaii type because i'm a pathetic weeb girl sad life i think i like high neoteny in general
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/22 09:23 PM
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this makes me sad, because as a female, i have a wide square jaw which actually hinders me as i wanted a cutesy face. i look like as if im supposed to be a boy oh well, life's never going to give people what they want.
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/22 07:48 PM
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there's no guy ''most'' likes but it's pretty safe to say that type is popular with a lot
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/22 04:20 PM
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i think personality nd emotional connection is much more important for women, so that's a part of ''gemale gaze'' stories another point where female gaze is applied is about ''masculine steroided dudes'' vs ''youthful prettyboys'', most men would call the former unattractive, gay or just don't find it respecworthy, even though a lot of girls will like those types or even prefer them
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 03:34 PM
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Caste system existed, but a clear cut blatant colorism doesn't have enough evidence for most scholars. Albeit labor based categorization suggests there is. For east asian, it specifically also mentions both europeans and asians found each other ugly. https://apjjf.org/2016/16/Cho.html
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 08:11 AM
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Isn't that ratio mean men are making it harder for themselves by using dating apps, instead of women's hypergamy being the culprit?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 11:49 PM
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Isn't that ratio mean men are making it harder for themselves by using dating apps, instead of women's hypergamy being the culprit?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 11:49 PM
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What if i find neither attractive I mainly like soft neotenous features
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 08:32 PM
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It does matter, most movies don't even have female majority matchers to begin with. You can look at asian ancient art or how clothes are designed though, which flattens women Indians were also invaded by muslims before the british, who also have lighter skin than indians. Also racial features changing due to globalization is also something the west is affected by, namely they used to only like caucasian men and women but they now shilled asian women and black men for years due to elites agenda, …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 08:25 PM
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Media is run by men, considering they are the ones who run hollywood or modelling industries, a lot of men consideres those women fat as well. It is degeneracy yes, but it was ''normalized' ' due to men being kind of horrible without some kind of moral system to supress them, whether that be religion or laws. But there are also asian women with curvy bodies that exist, why didn't they become the majority? Why are most ancient asian art portraying flatter women? I'm not saying asians don't have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 08:05 PM
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Fatshamed in media. Ancient societies also liked the way 12 year old girls and boys looked like, pretty scandalous today. (to be perfectly fair, the existing text mostly points out to aristocrats doing that, rather than the civils) Why would they have flatter bodies otherwise? It's not really related to survival plus their art and clothing of older times suggests smaller bust and hips were liked. There also actually exist asians with bigger eyes, but sexual selection made asians with smaller eye…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 07:43 PM
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The thing is they would be fatshamed in 60's to early 2000's, women thinner than that were being fatshamed, less so in 2020's where thicc was back in fashion. another outlier are asians, they considered a flat androgynous body as ideal, this is why kimono hides curves and why asian women are still flatter than other ethnicities(sexual selection) speaking of greeks, they also considered small dick as ideal, not true today xD they also used to marry girls at 13 and also liked boys at that same age…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 07:15 PM
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would probably happen if you tried it for 100 years in a collective group but the body types, facial types and even racial phenotypes we found attractive changed
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 06:44 PM
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it's not collective based, hollywood, colonization or whatever the ones in power wanted to promote becomes the dominant wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 06:40 PM
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https://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2012/03/07/exotic-dancers-in-1890-and-the-plump-body-ideal/ what about these? or this statue: https://mymodernmet.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/venus-of-willendorf-1-1.jpg fat or slim aside, even the part about curves is false on east asia, east asians preferred flat chest and flat butts(kimono is designed to hide the curves too) this is why asian women often have flat butts ad flat butts and hips(because they were sexually selected for it) it would prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 06:17 PM
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>muh online dating there are also stats that say only %25 of women are actually using dating apps, on top of that, many are also scammers and bots.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 05:38 PM
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Stats tell you what happens at a specific time at a specific place, it doesn't tell you why it happened, if it happens at an another place, if it was always like that or if it would continue to be like that in future. Trying to logicalize stats beyond that is purely speculation. That being said some stats are also manipulated
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 05:35 PM
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some women are specifically attracted to ''evil'' men, but the same could be said for men ''celebrating'' some girl called ''irl yandere'' because she's an ''uwu cute waifu'' it has some popularity between a subgroup, however they choose fringe examples to prove their point instead of choosing to look at obvious majorities, jeremy meeks has gotten girls yes, but why are they pretending his popularity is anywhere near comparable to a hollywood heartthrob or a k-pop idol?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 02:27 PM
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humans are social creatures at their core, but the way blackpillers go about ''genetics'' and ''good looks'' is just ''broscience'' made for agenda and possibly even nazi-like.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 02:11 PM
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media or propaganda is only a group of person's evolved preferences or agenda, if that group actively promotes that thing while supressing opposing ones then it becomes a dominant or prominent preference in the general population overtime basically the elites decide what should be the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:34 PM
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https://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2012/03/07/exotic-dancers-in-1890-and-the-plump-body-ideal/ Like this, in 60's to 2000's these would be considered fat. Big ears are considered silly looking or ugly, not beautiful today. Another factor is everyone used to only like the looks that were common in their racial group, nowadays it's either somewhat eurocentric or even less eurocentric in europe itself
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:19 PM
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https://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2012/03/07/exotic-dancers-in-1890-and-the-plump-body-ideal/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:16 PM
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This is like the ''balding indian janitor' ' strawman
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/22 01:12 PM
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Maybe not obesity but something that would be considered slightly chubby today. You have to remember the time period's context, being overweight just wasn't the norm like it is today. You also ignored all other parts.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:12 PM
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Not really, but i think trusting what women produce is at least a better way to determine what kind of looks or personality traits women like.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:10 PM
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Maybe not obesity but something that would be considered slightly chubby today, you have to look at it in the context of those times where being overweight wasn't the physque of the average man or woman. Also ignored other parts
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:09 PM
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Fat people were considered beautiful years ago, nowadays they aren't. Cultural exchange also caused several nations beauty standards to be eurocentric when they weren't before, same as euro countries adopting non-euro features. An abnormally long neck or big ears are beautiful in certain tribes. These are all significant imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 12:59 PM
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E-boy maxxing also counts as fashionmaxxing
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/22 12:58 PM
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Becoming rich isn't that easy, i wish it was so i could avoid the economic crisis but it isn't. That being said that falls under betabuxxing which i covered in my ''unless he' s a sugar daddy'' part But unless such a situation is involved, most girls just don't date someone +20 years older than them, research shows most women like men around the same age as them(and men like younger)
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/22 12:56 PM
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It's not even about effeminacy or masculinity. It's about the fact there are a lot of ways to compliment one's face that guys avoid or are too lazy to do.
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/22 12:52 PM
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A 40 year old balding dude will simply not appeal to majority of good looking younger girls regardless of if he's masculine or not. unless he finds a sugar baby or an escort, that's why your question is pointless. My question is aiming at average looking dudes in their 20's or 30's
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/22 12:48 PM
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Because it works and i like prettyboys Im older than 18
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/22 12:41 PM
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How can a 40 year old aging woman apoeal to the man he's interested when younger better lookşng girls are available?
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/22 12:40 PM
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How do you explain gender roles or beauty standards for each gender changing in every era depending on what media puts on front? Or why does every country have different cultural norms at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 12:39 PM
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He could've done it in his youth
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/22 12:38 PM
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biology or evolutionary explanations are honestly junk science a lot of the time, the truth is media and society has more effect than we'd like to admit
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 12:22 PM
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But biology or evolutionary explanations are honestly junk science a lot of the time, the truth is media and society has more effect than we'd like to admit
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 12:21 PM
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Porn usually used paid actors to cater to men, even many of the ''lesbian' ' porn features women that aren't lesbian or bisexual in reality. it would probably be better to watch media made by women for general female gaze
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:41 AM
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most girls prefer face over muscles now, gymcelling is outdated.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 11:45 PM
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but the average man doesn't have the truecel pheno, yet you don't see him try to prettyboymaxx or fashionmaxx which is probably easier than gymcel or mascmaxx. and if all else fails, plastic surgery is an option
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/22 11:05 PM
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I'm aware of asian men's preference for stick thin women, and east asia is more patriarchal than the west, however when women of any ethnicity write something they never cast fat men, and it just happens asian women write more for whatever reason West is more feminist but despite that hollywood is dominated by male writers and directors, is it a surprise males will push ugly men with beautiful women? (in this case fat vs slim) Also look at tiktok, it is dominated by zoomer audience, you can some…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 07:32 PM
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Recommend cute e boys to follow guys
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/22 07:25 PM
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Hollywood is mostly managed by men though, western women simply do not have control of western media. It's very natural men will like the dynamic of fat old men with slim young women In comparison east asian media has more female writers and directors, how many fat men?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 07:14 PM
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Name a fat men girls simp over as a celeb or a fat dude who makes onlyfans
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 06:50 PM
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there just isn't much marketing for men to beautify themselves in anyway to begin with which takes away from your point. but the only one advertised is going to the gym, which has the purpose of fitness. how is body fat related to height, money or social ability? fat people unless you're in africa or something are more likely to be poor, affording healthy food and even gyms takes money. also just take a look at the celebrities men and women ogle over, men will sometimes like chubbier women, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 05:13 PM
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So isn't it better to aim for a thinnish look(even if with some muscle) ? Since men will prefer women under 30?
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/22 04:54 PM
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That's only because society doesn't care about male beauty in general, but actual smv wise, no girl likes fat men and fatness hides secondary sex traits in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 04:53 PM
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Wrong, fatness makes you have tits, big butt and a rounder face, which are all hiding secondary sex traits on men. But neither is good
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 04:49 PM
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But don't men usually prefer younger women (younger as in 18-25, not pedo)
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/22 03:53 PM
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A lot of men can make their face look better by using skin care, acessories, dressing well or heck even light makeup... But usually they don't Young leonardo dicaprio was also a prettyboy btw and he was legit skinny, his face and hair helped
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/22 02:33 PM
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Justin was honestly higher on the scale when he was a thin young boy Kpop guys(not just jungkook) are more valued for having youthful prettyfaces than being muscular or masculine, though i never said they had to be total femboys. Young leonardo dicaprio was also pretty thin, but had a good pretty face You're kind of proving my point... It's mostly the face that matters What i'm suggesting is a lot of guys don't really know how to highlight their good facial features which would boost their smv i…
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/22 02:26 PM
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Is there any consistent compotent of blackpill besides females caring about looks?
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/22 09:26 AM
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It might just be your social circle, a lot of guys who are more ''masculine' ' (whether they are 20 or 35) do good with western women especially older ones. There might also be some other reason you don't do well with girls besides you ' 'not being a prettyboy' ' especially if you already look young anyway. I knew guys who were exchange students in korea/china/japan who got more attention if they shaved their beards, while western women often didn't care about either. there are some asian women …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 08:47 AM
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I do legitimately think prettyboymaxxing is easier than mascmaxxing
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/22 07:48 AM
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That men value masculine looks despite what young women like not being so masculine
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/22 07:37 AM
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A lot of of those dudes look plain without dressing
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/22 07:35 AM
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I wouldn't say just status, a lot of girls legitimately prefer e-boy or kpop look, like how Justin Bieber was popular
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/22 07:33 AM
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muscles can become a factor, however it's mainly gay men who will put it above general good looks it's also not just the physque, a lot of guys also hate the way they dress or even how a somewhat babyish pretty face looks
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/22 11:45 PM
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What i'm saying is i think prettyboymaxxing is legitimately easier than mascmaxxing
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/22 11:29 PM
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Looking thin in itself isn't unhealthy, i don't think most e boys or kpop stars are in underweight range
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/22 11:21 PM
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idk, doing skincare and dressing well doesn't take that much effort(in terms of imitating idol looks)
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/22 10:45 PM
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what i mean is that some guys are obsessed with masculinity being the highest smv, despite some of these guys being far away from stereotypical alpha chad. the e-boy isn't the most masc
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/22 10:30 PM
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you can attract 18 to 25 year odls
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/22 10:22 PM
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well there was justin bieber and young leo dicaprio, prettyboys always did well
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/22 10:22 PM
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Some are older than 21,plus men like younger women anyway
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/22 09:52 PM
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It used to be what you said, however nowadays every guy that is appealing to women is described as a chad
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 08:58 PM
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Average white dude has somewhat of a higher smv in majority white countries, and might be exotic in asia, that has some merit. However ''seamaxxing' ' can be done by any race of men, and non-white men are sometimes borderline fetishized(coalburners and kpopper girls)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 07:35 PM
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i think they should just admit that getting ''meaningless sex'' is easier in some shithole instead of shitting on western women when they themselves aren't the most ''trad''guys also speaking of western, love how op referred sk as western
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 04:08 PM
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''Yes let's look at celebrities. Look at actors from the 90's. The men are still working while the women have aged out.'' the only actors relevant from hollywood to women under age 25 are tom holland and timothee chalamet, they much prefer looking at tiktok e boys or even kpoppers. hollywood mainly has men in charge, of course they like younger women and older men dynamic, duh. people in 90's didn't have much other than hollywood to follow, however social media rising to the extent it does means…
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/22 02:34 PM
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it has some merit,but sea really is a poor example of it, not only will that portion of sea women will go for anyone with a green card but white dudes aren't even the best seamaxxers, korean dudes are, if i'm not wrong, i think it mostly has merit in majority white countries, which i guess includes usa. they do have negative stereotypes from the west, however isn' this more of a media effect than women's inherent nature or whatever blackpillers say? case in point: it's not the proudest achieveme…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 02:31 PM
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don't think so, women retain their neoteny and use skin care.
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/22 01:44 PM
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women are aware older women are uglier but so are older men
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/22 01:40 PM
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i feel like old men are also ugly though
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/22 01:40 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LVAMk5xUtqY
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 01:14 PM
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redpillers used to praise japan and south korea, nowadays they use them as a part of what is wrong with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 12:52 PM
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westernized maybe, but they aren't ''western'' they aren't located in the west and they have the looks of someone from the east (asian or middle eastern) japan and korea being ''sexist'' compared to usa also comes from their eastern or trad roots that are admittely disppearing
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 12:31 PM
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''As I mentioned in my other post, the South Korean government is the most anti-feminist one in the western world.'' didn't know koreans were westerners.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 11:50 AM
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asian women's standards are more likely to include prettyboys though, well, at least ones from first world asian countries, literally just look at korean, japanese and chinese media, it is their ideal. a taiwanese girl at 23 my friend knows considered her 28 year old french husband ''bald and too old looking'' , to be fair he balded early but still. also FDS is such a fringe and irrevelant example, i could link threads from incels . is forum guys that consider girls at 13 as the ''prime'' and ov…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 11:02 AM
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seamaxxing? black, asian and even indian dudes can do it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 10:50 AM
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it's used as a common talking point for incels to complain about ''JBW'' even though black, korean, chinese and whoever else that has a passport card also succeeds in third world countries eastern european girls often are obsessed with korean men too for whatever reason, but you will never hear of someone using it as a proof of ''JBA'' because it doesn't give them enough bitching points as much as JBW does.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 10:48 AM
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in my opinion, it depends on the intention of the man, some men will have the mentality of replacing their partner when she gets old, or think that younger women are easier to ''manipulate'' but if an older and younger person fall in love with each other without wrong intentions it's whatever on my book, t the double standard also exists because for years, media and hollywood pushed the idea that older men are good while always penalizing aging on women, it's very recent that women started to vo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 05:06 PM
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if you like nerdy guys just go for it
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/22 06:32 PM
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i've had guys that want to fuck me and be done even though they thought i was ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 04:31 PM
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most artists are men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 04:03 PM
1

I have seen cases of white, black and asian men all fetishized or being preferred due to some stereotype that might be delusional. However the dudes themselves usually don't care
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:36 PM
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It is fetish if she just dates her because he's white without caring about any of his other qualities, the difference is The difference is most men don't really seem to mind being fetishized to an extent, due to power dynamics
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:00 PM
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There are women with racial fetishes too, people just don't care because men usually don't care about being seen as a fetish However i seen more and more cases of asian women in the west being called out
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 01:58 PM
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Racial fetishization is different from preferring physical traits that aren't related to race for one+most dating apps have more dudes than women To add more racial fetishization is something women also do(bbc phenomenon, white saviour syndrome among asian women and koreaboo women in korea are examples i can think of) however most dudes of any race don't give a shit about it, so it's less of an issue there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 01:52 PM
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The votes also depended on trade politics, the leftist/femibist party was supporting nk if im not wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 11:52 AM
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in japan a nearly equal women and men are sexless, due to hook up culture not being promoted there
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 11:39 AM
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the virgin rate of those countries is equal yes(especially since hook up culture isn't widespread there) and another thing people forget, japan's fertility rate is basically equal to most european countries(sk is lower than japan) and don't forget that immigrants from third world countries are keeping the fertility rate probably higher than it normally would be if no immigrants(while japan and other east asian countries have significantly less immigrants) i think it's mostly incel weebs coping t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 09:15 AM
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Meaning that low tier men(usually the ones who have to get out of their country to get laid) would have less incentive to go there thus dropping the amount of men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 01:50 AM
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No one posting here probably is actually living or lived in south korea, maybe you should ask people who actually live there for more accurate views. Also sk feminists can be insane too, some defended the right to rape little boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 01:18 AM
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I'm not an expert on this, but from what i was shown i think that sk is generally safer than western countries, however the exceptation of being perfect is disproportionately higher on women, like a lot of female celebrities here get hate for getting ''fat' '(skinny to westerners), reading feminist book or praising feminist ideas, dressing' 'slutty' ' etc. while the men getting an equal amount of hate happens at minimum when the dude commits an assault or is involved in sex trafficking or someth…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 01:09 AM
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I think it's more of a ratio thing Sk has a lower homicide rate than most countries, however it has more women killed than men, while for most countries, men are killed more
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 12:57 AM
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Agepill is so brutal, not because you look uglier but men over 25 usually look ugly :(
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 11:47 PM
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Well the second part talks about asian feminist movement
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 11:40 PM
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I predict that europe, while probably not low as south korea, will have lower birthrate than stats show if you only count for white or native birth rates, i think someone did calculate that, but i don't have the data rn Rest of asian countries also have a patriarchy problem, well, at least in them not wanting to promote women in work places.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 11:39 PM
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Sk is low, but japan and rest of the easy asian countries is practically same as the west, remember to subtract immigrant/non-white percentage from the birthrates
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 11:34 PM
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To be fair as much as people joke so much about korea or japan's birthrate, when you look at european countries, it's usually just as low as east asian ones (especially if you remember to subtract immigrant birthrates here) i'm not trying to make light of korean women's struggle but wondering if there's some global reason this is happening other than misogyny/misandry considering europe has similar rates, while islamic countries or south asian/southeast asian, likely being worse than south korea…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 11:22 PM
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Incels nowadays think going full on islam will save them, they think korean/japanese/chinese etc are too ''beta' '
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 11:11 PM
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Playing the devil's advocate, incels use places like afghanistan or pakistan to prevent inceldom, which is even less feminist than south korea Generally third world countries have higher fertility for whatever reason i noticed
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 10:57 PM
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''personality' ' can matter, but in that appearing insecure, awkward, autistic, weird or some type that isn't able to get friends
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 10:55 PM
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A lot of foreign women also come to korea to get plastic surgery tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 10:54 PM
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morally deficient women don't really struggle either, idk why are those things served as like gender specific things.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 09:35 PM
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completely ignored the second part.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 06:44 PM
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A lot of kdrama or manwha (same for anime and manga) is written by women, i do wonder why there's a lack of media made by women in usa despite it being more feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 06:30 PM
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