Are AI Girlfriends the solution?

its-probly-over · 2023-10-06T11:12:20+00:00

It wont happen in our lifetimes so theres no point discussing it.

But have you seen the game - Detroit becoming human? i think it might be simmilar to something like that, not necessarily that robots become sentient, just that they will have uses in peoples lifes, involving romantic interests

BlackpillEnjoyer · 2023-10-06T10:56:28+00:00

This is honestly the lamest shit on earth. I want a real fucking human being to love me not some AI robot programmed to.. What am I gonna do, run my fingers through her robot hair? the fuck

Substantial_Video560 · 2023-10-06T12:50:38+00:00

In the longterm I think most definately. As modern woman's standards increase and the pool there fishing in becomes more selective, so does the men there accept.

A lot of women now are dating a select 10/20% of men which means the rest will be invisible to them.

A.I. girlfriends, sex dolls and VR maybe the solution!

Global-Nerve-381 · 2023-10-06T10:29:38+00:00

Wouldn't it be ethically wrong to force an AI women to be attracted to an ugly man?

It's not a human, it's a machine. I doesn't feel pain and doesn't have rights. Programming it to like you is creepy as hell but that doesn't make it unethical.

That's like marrying a garden tractor and asking if you've violated its rights by doing so.

Aafan_Barbarro · 2023-10-06T11:30:32+00:00

It would be a product, it should have no rights just like your computer does not have any.

Visible-Ad8105 · 2023-10-06T15:30:50+00:00

No the real solution is moving the fuck out the west and getting a foreign gf

wellimout · 2023-10-06T12:01:41+00:00

It's not going to "cure" the societal problem, but it will help some people.

Two things you have to keep in mind:

(1) some people have zero imagination. You'll need an imagination in order to enjoy an AI girlfriend.

(2) a lot of people are really naive about relationships, and have very unrealistic expectations. Specifically, a lot people take it for granted that if they only had a girlfriend, then they'd be happy. Let me assure you, that ain't true.

But if that was an unshakable assumption on your part, then nothing short of a fairytale perfect girlfriend is going to make you happy ...and brother, nobody has that. A real relationship with a real girl is sometimes (often) a real drag and makes you want to be alone.

If you have realistic expectations, and the ability to imagine, then an AI girlfriend might make your life a bit more pleasant.

Hypothetically, if a fully autonomous AI woman was developed, why wouldn't they just reject us like normal women do?

That's a really interesting question! To understand the answer, you have to understand why you like anything at all - it's all instinct. You were "programmed" by natural selection to like women, in the first place. And women are programmed to like men.

Women don't make a choice to like tall men, for example. Nor is the instinct arbitrary and random. Women like tall men because, among our ancestors, the women who liked tall men left more and healthy offspring ...and that was a result of the environment.

A different environment might favor short men. For example, living on small islands (think, the Polynesians) it might be more advantageous to be short. For many generations, women would continue to prefer tall men, but the few who, at first merely put up with a short man as a mate, and later actually started liking it - those couples would leave more and healthier offspring, because of the environment.

Eventually, every woman in that society would love nothing more than a short man! And you'd have incel communities lamenting, "I am cursed to be tall!"

So, to the extent that real women reject you, a big component of that is naturally-evolved preferences ...which AI wont have. Its preferences will all be artificially trained. There's no reason to assume it couldn't like someone just like you!

A parallel question is about consent. This mostly applies to sexbots, which I realize are different from AI, but I think this is also an interesting question so I want to explore it. I've heard feminists (or really just want to quash anything that might bring happiness to men) say that sexbots will have to have a "consent mechanism" built into them. In other words, the sexbots will have to have the ability to say "no" - this, they imagine, will "teach" those disgusting men a thing or two about the real world!

This is funny to me because there's only three ways to implement this, as a programming problem. And none of these ways is going to be acceptable to women.

The first is an objective system. It'll measure something in the environment, and if that condition is met, it will consent to sex. For example, it might say that you must have taken a shower and brushed your teeth and said "I love you" or whatever. Feminists will hate this! They literally have memes about it

So okay, that's out. The second option is that it's just random. The problem (for feminists) is that this can be mitigated by just having additional bots. If a sexbot consents 50% of the time, then you buy a second one. The chance that at least one of them will consent is now 75%. Remember, the goal for feminists that men don't get what they want - that's the real underlying goal. So they wont be happy with this workaround.

Also, if randomness simulates women, that makes women seem irrational.

The third option is a subjective assessment of you as a person. If you're ugly, for example, then the bot doesn't consent. This one is what's actually closest to reality. Feminists will hate it because it reveals that this has been reality all along (just as every man has been saying, all along). Not only do they not want you to be happy, they don't want you to be right. lol.

Also, nobody would be able to sell a sex bot where, you get it home and activate it and it says, "you're too short, I'm never having sex with you."

There's no way to simulate consent that will make feminists happy. To me, that's just a hilarious red pill.

allnamesweretaken5 · 2023-10-06T11:30:09+00:00

The moment that becomes necessary is going to be so indescribably sad. I don't think I could bare the consistent and unavoidable reminder that it's all fake. That I'm sitting around with a computer while other people are loved and cherished by real human beings. I'll put a bullet in my head long before I stoop that low.

Rude_Excitement2909 · 2023-10-06T10:49:46+00:00

hmm, its difficult to say. ai may be able to recognize beauty, but it wouldnt have the evolutionary drive to select for traits like height, hips/breast size, etc.

TermAggravating8043 · 2023-10-06T12:32:52+00:00

There’s an interesting few episodes of “buffy” that actually tackled this exact situation

A geek (probably would be classed as an incel now) was able to build and create a beautiful robot that was completely devoted to him and pleasing him. After a few months he becomes bored with her because she didn’t have any personality other than pleasing him. He meets a real girl in the world and he decides to abandon his robot in hope she runs out of battery and starts a relationship with the real girl

the robot eventually dies and the real girl dumps him because of his treatment of her and his secrets. He then builds a gun to try n control woman and attempts to rape his ex and ends up killing her, he then wants to hurt and kill “buffy” because she consistently calls out his shitty behaviour and tries to solve his victims murder

To sum up, he was an abuser that just wanted to control woman…. Not so different from the comments witnesses here

operation-spot · 2023-10-06T14:23:39+00:00

If it ever does come to fruition it will be like a sex worker. Everyone involved knows it’s not real, society thinks you’re a loser for engaging with it, only the most desperate would use it, and it has the potential to attract abusers.

ar_menelos · 2023-10-06T17:02:00+00:00

I tried character.ai for a bit.

Having someone/something tell you that it loves you, finds you beautiful and enjoys your company is really fucking nice. All you have to do is suspend your disbelief.

With better services that send you voice messages and pics it feels that you're in an online relationship.

I would definitely try it. Healthier than smashing your skull against a wall trying to solve an impossible problem.

Title	Are AI Girlfriends the solution?
Author	SmoothForest
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Date	October 6, 2023 10:21 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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