A question for everyone that can answer...

Bucephalus-ii · 2023-01-04T05:21:56+00:00

You aren’t crazy in the slightest. It’s all BS. Most of these people act completely differently in real life.

Just enjoy your life, do no harm, if you can. Find peace, and try to make the world just a tiny bit better than you found it. That’s really it.

Meat_Vegetable · 2023-01-04T06:00:42+00:00

This is actually the mindset that got me out of redpill, "why does it matter when the world is dying and I can see it dying?"

Well in the grand scheme of things those idiotic arguments don't matter, they are a waste of everyone's time. And then I ended up learning how to be a halfway decent human being along the way, and I still have a way to go.

mikayrodr · 2023-01-04T06:18:20+00:00

I would say this is how most people live lol

SweelFor- · 2023-01-04T07:35:01+00:00

What debate, specifically?

2023-01-04T07:41:47+00:00

Yup, checked out ages ago. I only come here to help others find resources. I'm too busy living a good life, not giving a shit about the debate, and celebrating ethical slutting. 😁 It's sad how many lives this is ruining.

Butt_nipper · 2023-01-04T07:19:09+00:00

I think it’s hard to validate the answer to your question because the people that say “fuck it I’m off to live my life” don’t stick around to explain themselves.

But yes, in fact I’d say 90% of people in the world don’t give a shit about the debate. In fact, I don’t think any of my friends or family know anything about this wider ideology. Maybe the word “incel” because of the news, but other than that no one cares. It’s definitely not as all encompassing as it feels when you’re in the middle.

LCBrianC · 2023-01-04T13:41:28+00:00

Yup. I did this a long, long time ago. I used to be more sympathetic towards men venting about bad experiences with women but it’s gotten to the point where personal frustration has blown up into partisan warfare, and it’s just ridiculous. I mean, maybe I’m biased, but I’ve had my share of bad experiences with some women but it’s never occurred to me to lay that on the shoulders of ALL women.

Arcaribus · 2023-01-04T07:39:22+00:00

Think of it like this.

Someone tells you you're a shitty person. You ignore them for a bit, but since they don't stop, after a while you start telling them they're shitty.

And then it just snowballs.

While if you just ignored it a bit longer, they would start thinking they're talking to the air, and would either do something else, or try to actually change their methods to something more suitable to you.

That would deconstruct it completely.

Several-Passenger320 · 2023-01-04T10:49:01+00:00

No one has any idea of what they're doing, so they wanna convince each other out that they do for a sense of control. Men or women. We live in a Godless age (reverencing Nietzsche concept of lack of faith and direction);

The world of warcraft incel feels entitled to date someone who brings everything to table while bringing nothing to table and complaining women dont see him for his true good.

The woman who has sort of her life in check, feels entitled to dump someone who has won a noble prize on archeology, has a six pack, a great lifestyle and passive income, just because archeology is such a strange and unmarketable position.

One feels entitled to everything while bringing nothing to table, and the other feels entitled to everything just because they bring something to table. Its debatable which of one is more insufferable.

TRP isn't a bad place to start to build yourself, (controversial), but it is a very flawed doctrine, although for the WoW incel will be better than nothing to realize that they have to work on something in order to feel entitled to stuff to begin with. But again, what you get of TRP community and doctrine can be achieved in other channels, such as a community that focus on lifestyle, social skills, hobbies, workouts, business, for the sake of loving those things genuinely and not to attract mates; its on result driven outcomes (Attracting a partner, and doing so to attract and keeping partners), that TRP loses all credibility and joy. As seeking results without loving the process isn't a sustainable process. This is what made me lose faith in all TRP, as I wasnt loving my relationships, because I wasnt loving the process of maintaining one.

Self improvement is always the way to go, without attaching yourself to expectations of outcomes, as that's always going to be self-sustainable. In essence, TRP chases the process to get to some end goal without believing in it. While TRP has taught me a few lessons, and I cant lie about that. (IE: avoiding being a needy partner not because you will repel females, but because you believe in self-improvement and bettering yourself and neediness isn't part of a healthy functional individual. One is self-sustainable, the other isn't and its pedestalizing someone else's opinion of you rather than your own)

Nightchanger · 2023-01-04T12:26:23+00:00

This is the original attempt of MGTOW and incels. A place to comfort and help in giving up / moving on. It didn't end well for those who stayed or are now joining

fathergoose77 · 2023-01-04T18:37:12+00:00

This is the opposite of “crazy”. Men and women are so different as individual people that there is no valid way to debate anything about the groups as a whole, especially when debating non-measurable variables. And obsessing about it I literally just a waste of your time that could be spent on actually being productive and proactive in your own life instead.

I honestly feel like when people get so deep into the obsession of the debate, they are running from specific problems in their lives that they don’t want to acknowledge or work on, so they like to stay in the theoretical realm of humans and dating to distract themselves from their immediate real life situation, whatever that may be (abusive household, bullies, mental health disorders, addiction, etc).

It’s like if someone wants to earn money but they don’t feel confident in writing a resume, applying to many jobs, doing interviews, dealing with application rejections, so they stay at home on the internet and obsess about all the wealthy men in the world. They theorize and fantasize about what their lives are like, obsess over how many cars they can own or how their money can be utilized to solve world hunger or whatever. They both talk shit and glorify the theory and idea of having wealth and what a wealthy lifestyle might consist of they they will never experience.

The main issue is they need to brush up on some skills, figure out what’s holding them back, and get a job/build a career. That will solve the actual problem in their life of needing financial independence and security, but it requires work while theorizing and debating about billionaires requires no work but feels like they are still putting mental energy into something so it’s a distraction.

Switch out my analogy with incels/RPs wanting love/acceptance, but instead of working on the ability to socialize and build connections with people in real life, they obsess over the lives of chads/Stacys/alphas and waste their mental energy thinking about how much better their lives must be instead of working on their own.

What is the point of debating something that adds nothing of value to your own life and only causes frustration and divide? I think you’re on the right track here.

Naus1987 · 2023-01-05T00:38:16+00:00

The real fight is between wise people and dumb people. Dumb people are pretty much screwed, but wise people can find solutions.

I’m proud of you for going beyond and improving!

Mean_Mechanic9889 · 2023-01-05T21:52:40+00:00

Thanks for this. We need to indetifiy as people. I think this is the cure.

Sending love!

Title	A question for everyone that can answer...
Author	Comprehensive_Fox674
Upvotes	25
Comments	18
Date	January 4, 2023 5:17 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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