Can seduction be learned? a.k.a “Game”

RealRussShackleford · 2021-12-31T03:32:28+00:00

“Game” can be learned but it’s not something you can learn from a book or some guy on YouTube. People don’t understand that game isn’t some set of rules of “do this” and “never do this.” Those “rules” exist because they seem to apply to a decent amount of women. But what game actually is is the ability to read people and situations and pick up subtle cues and exploit them in different ways to achieve a desired outcome.

And that you figure out through being rejected countless times.

Mh882130 · 2021-12-31T05:39:08+00:00

Attraction like stress; depression and other biological responses is all neurological.

If you understand a persons neurology; behaviour patterns, drives and personality you can make them attracted to you in anyway.

But that requires being present; active listening, empathy and other traits (many in the divine feminine energy) tend to naturally possess more than men which is why a majority of women are great at understanding social settings.

PrincessTiaraLove · 2021-12-31T06:06:18+00:00

People trying to teach you game are just trying to make you a loyal paying cult member. All you need to do is have boundaries, have standards, be authentic and honest. Also have mutual respect for women. These people trying to trick women are creeps and that's why they can't successfully maintain a relationship with the women they seek. A lot of these men are either being played or abusing sensitive women that they actually don't like.

Yesm3can · 2021-12-31T06:25:14+00:00

Of course it can...but not in the way PUA like to sell it. There is no "ok, these are the signs, kino now to escalate before you are losing momentum!" Different people react differently.

People learn 'accidental/subconscious' seduction just like how they learn social skills. By surrounding themselves with others, interacting with them, over and over again. And even then, there is no fixed rules. You interact with people in a club differently than how you interact with another group of people you learn during a hike.

OldMenAreGross · 2021-12-31T03:19:53+00:00

Short answer: no.

Long answer: no, most people don't "learn game" they either

a) improve aspects of their life, fix their problems, refine their tastes, develop a deeper understanding of things, cultivate a hobby, take care of their physical appearance, improve their finances etc all of these things contribute to their overall betterment as a person, which in turn makes them more attractive. This isn't game, this is personal improvement.

b) try to hook up with "easier" women, like women in third world countries or developing countries. They haven't improved anything, but being western/white alone makes them more attractive in certain parts of the world. This isn't game, this is taking advantage of the socio-economic status of some people.

mammajess · 2021-12-31T07:29:20+00:00

The most immediately sexy man I ever met was a 5'5" Eurasian man* I met when I was about 22. I had a weird fixation on height at the time (I dunno why, I was a weird kid) and I walked up to him to meet him (he was a friend of a friend) and after finding out his name I asked who was taller him or me. That's a a very strange question (I was probably drunk) but he went with it and we went back to back and found out we were almost exactly the same height. So immediately we were close physically and he was confident and not really worried about me asking a random strange question. We hung out a lot during the night and he was the only man I think I ever met who I would have slept with immediately with zero strings (I was in a relationship so I made no attempt to establish anything with him). He made me feel very safe, he didn't make me feel I was responsible for his insecurities, I didn't feel any insecurities, he felt confident but not arrogant. That was either the best "game" I've ever come across or he was just naturally very lovely. I'm unsure if you can learn this level of sexiness, as I said I only met one man my entire life like that.

* I added in his height and race because manosphere people seem to think height and race are very important factors.

RedPillDetox · 2021-12-31T12:08:32+00:00

"Game" like playing hard to get or push-pulling would be nothing but a collection of social influence techniques and psychological tricks to seduce someone. Thnk of it as sales techniques or something. Can you learn sales techniques? Yes. Will you sell your product everytime (or even most of the time) just because you got sales techniques in your "pocket"? No. Can they boost your chances? Yes. Can they also fireback horribly and hurt your chances depending on the context? Yes. In the end, is the actual quality of the product of utter importance more so than the way you sell the product? Yes (way more often than not).

Game are just a few techniques that may ( i repeat, MAY) help you. In the end there are things far more important, namely the girl (buyer) and the context, followed by what YOU actually bring to the table (product).

heytheredelilah91 · 2021-12-31T14:33:40+00:00

You're going to get a lot of women who ditch you simply because you are trying to "game" them. So no, it's not going to work on everyone.

WhiteRabbit1333 · 2021-12-31T15:50:11+00:00

Some claim they have such good “game” that they could seduce basically anyone.

That's a marketing claim. Don't believe it.

The "game" is 50% social skills and 50% experience in my opinion. You can read libraries full of strategies and methods but they will never reach the value of situations you experienced yourself. The "game" is also not the same wherever you are. Lots of things are subconscious, hormonal, and more vibe-dependant than "oh that's point 18 from the playbook of the dude that looks like a stage magician".

Humble_Cup3644 · 2021-12-31T16:10:06+00:00

Yes, there is a way that men who are good with women act. But there is a lot of misinformation but pickup artists out there even though some of their advice is good.

But behavior won't do much if you aren't inherently attractive in the first place. Attractive people are good looking, have social status, have a good career, good mental health, etc.

Booda069 · 2022-01-01T03:58:42+00:00

Anything is life can be learned.....being good at it is a different thing.

Title	Can seduction be learned? a.k.a “Game”
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Date	December 31, 2021 2:53 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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