Specific "80/20 rule" claim by Stoverock

RedPillDetox · 2021-11-10T17:54:35+00:00

Also, on another note. That woman is a dumb bitch. Virtually her theory is "Women only want to fuck the top men, but most men don't like that so they created patriarchy to sexually enslave women. We should just create the conditions to exclude most men as they ain't worth fucking by giving them porn and sex robots and let women share the top men". It's really some unapolegetic mix between red pill and feminazism. If her ideas were true and mainstream then she would really just be offering Red Pill a legit purpose to exist. That is, it would be legit to think that gender relations are a war of each gender trying to exploit one another, hence it's okay for red pill men to exist and submit women to their sexual interests. Lol

RedPillDetox · 2021-11-10T17:47:02+00:00

A simple 9% increase in a 30 year period of one of the greatests gender egalitarian countries in the world is laughable. If anything, a 23% of childless men is the EXACT OPPOSITE of what one would expect to find after a 30 year period, particularly if you take into account that successful sexual strategies rapidly extend through the population. In other words, if female instinct is to only fuck the top 20%, why is it that the number isn't MUCH closer to the mentioned 80%, instead being at almost the opposite extreme? ~~Spoiler alert: Because her theory is bullshit~~

Not to mention that measuring childlessness is irrelevant for her theory. She should be measuring number of sex partners and/or frequency of sex because just because a man doesn't have kids doesn't mean he isn't fucking. CURIOUSLY ENOUGH, nordic countries are among the most promiscuous in the world for both men and women.

heytheredelilah91 · 2021-11-11T00:45:20+00:00

Why does the 80/20 rule only apply to women? Does it not apply to men, too? Or does it just assume that most/all men will fuck anything that moves? The 80/20 rule is insulting to men, too.

n0name1026 · 2021-11-10T19:08:56+00:00

The question always comes down to "what are the implications?" What kind of place will these theories lead us to?

Its part of the reason why in science genetic differences aren't talked about as much because of the political implications. Nazis were not uniquely evil because antisemitism and the race science that motivated their genocide was considered valid at that time.

With things like the 80/20 rule i do believe there is validity to it as a general principle. I think that men and women should always strive to be their best selves but comparison to the 'top' people is a recipe for disaster and increased insecurity and inadequacy. The 20% of men getting these women aren't possibly able to see all of them so even within that 80% they are selective and choose the ones that seem the most exceptional out of the roster. There are however too many nuances to consider it an iron rule or guide. Women may see a man that looks like a 20percenter, and indeed he is, but feel no interest in him because his aesthetic signals interests that she does not share. Like men, if women are faced with a choice between 2 men that they are attracted to, they will choose the man that will be more similar to themselves.

To use a celebrity comparison: you meet two women that are celebrity doppelgangers. One looks like Bella poarch and wears a shirt from a TV series youre a fan of and can talk at length about this. The other looks like Alexandria Daddario circa 2014 but doesn't share any of your interests. Which are you picking?

AbeLincoln30 · 2021-11-11T16:59:38+00:00

She has it exactly backwards. The increase in childless males is due to increase in income inequality... in other words, the society becoming less egalitarian.

The increase in income inequality means there are more men who have essentially no resources, and those men are less likely to have children, because women take men's resources into consideration when choosing a mate.

Accordingly, less-egalitarian societies have more childless men than more-egalitarian societies. Saudi Arabia, for example, has much higher ratio of childless men than Norway.

PutsWomenOnPedestal · 2021-11-13T16:29:23+00:00

As a woman who lives in Denmark, one interesting note is that another Redpill dude tried RP techniques in Denmark and they didn't work at all because women here just did not appreciate all that "alpha male" nonsense. We have a culture where "showing off" is highly discouraged and casual sex is highly accepted for both men and women, so the whole body count and alpha concept just kind of falls apart. He wrote an angry book on it. The book is called Don't Bang Denmark for reference.

Bluetinfoilhat · 2021-11-17T03:36:33+00:00

Why the assumption that childless men are not getting sex. A lot of men don't want children but are sexually active.

Socially men are less obsessed with being a dad compared to women wanting to be a mom.

Comprehensive_Buy7 · 2021-12-04T05:32:06+00:00

Norway is one of the most childless countries in the world for decades, and this is because Norwegian choose to no have kids for a number of reasons, this proves nothing. Just like redpillers, she is fooling herself.

bubi1234 · 2021-11-11T11:26:14+00:00

Thank you for posting this. I have never heard about redpill and all this stuff, before i read a summary of this book. I remember that i got the review recommended by the firefox startingsite.

This was my entrypoint, my first step to the redpill. How ironic, that a selfclaimed feminist brought me here, thank you meike stoverock.

An beside beeing the my first look at redpill thinking, this book is still the one, which is most sticking in my mind. I still think there is some truth in the big topics and discussion in the book and i can not get rid of it.

Title	Specific "80/20 rule" claim by Stoverock
Author	PutsWomenOnPedestal
Upvotes	9
Comments	34
Date	November 10, 2021 5:12 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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