The Left and Feminism

Current_Finding_4066 · 2023-08-31T12:32:03+00:00

Feminist certainly share many beliefs with the far right leaning people.

The main issue is that they have no consistency and moral backbone, they just want to gather all the benefits and leave out all the obligations.

alterumnonlaedere · 2023-08-31T10:25:34+00:00

I'd say that feminism is more of a dogma than an ideology- Dogma vs Ideology: Deciding Between Similar Terms.

When it comes to belief systems, two words that are often used interchangeably are dogma and ideology. However, there are subtle differences between the two that are worth exploring. In this article, we will delve into the nuances of dogma vs ideology, and explore which of the two is the more appropriate term to use in certain contexts.

We should define what we mean by dogma and ideology. Dogma refers to a set of principles or beliefs that are accepted as true, often without question or critical analysis. These beliefs are typically prescribed by a religious or political authority, and are considered to be absolute and unchanging. Ideology, on the other hand, refers to a set of ideas or principles that shape a particular worldview or way of thinking. Ideologies can be political, social, or cultural in nature, and are often shaped by personal experiences and beliefs.

The existence of the patriarchy is absolute and unchanging, question its existence and be cast out as a heretic.

International-Pool29 · 2023-09-01T09:46:13+00:00

To be fair I would not even call feminism inherently right wing, is rather just outright authoritarian and outright narcissistic, For me in order for it to be considered a right-wing ideology it would have to have tenants based on objectivity, rationale, logic or critical-thinking, but it doesn't appeal to any of those as all of feminism's claims are based on hearsay rather than any real life evidence

JojoGotDaMojo · 2023-09-01T07:23:07+00:00

I’ve asked people this before, if 100 years from now a ideology or dogma was created based on the views of Andrew Tate. Even if the views in the modern age were quite better than tates original views. Not a single feminist would say want to follow that or be associated with that movement.

Yet they follow feminism, which was created by elite racist + sexist white women. suffragettes that were literally pipebombing places In the UK, THATS LITERALLY TERRORISM BTW.

Am I the only one that genuinely understands how disgusting that is? The fact that people so adamantly want to spew this nonsense like it’s completely factual. It’s delusion

Serene_hex · 2023-09-01T11:31:35+00:00

Far too many leftist individuals in the US aren't really leftists at all; they are republicans with leftist masks who very much adhere to the law of the jungle. Read between the lines rather than the set of words as a standalone.

hendrixski · 2023-09-02T03:55:51+00:00

I agree. I'm consistently further left of most feminists I talk to. At least, I'm left of them on the issue of male immigration, in the issue of mtf trans women in women's bathrooms, I'm left of them on criminal justice reform for men, I'm left of them on assistance for homeless men, I'm left of them in ending gender-biased military conscription through passing the ERA, etc.

And when I say that we are oppressed by capital, not by "other men" then it becomes obvious I'm further left of them in economics, too.

So yeah. I'm not convinced that feminism is a left wing ideology.

Embarrassed_Chest_70 · 2023-08-31T19:13:42+00:00

Criticizing an ideology doesn't mean you hate women.

Or trans people, yet you’re here calling TERFs hateful.

Blauwpetje · 2023-09-01T14:56:41+00:00

And it’s essentially puritanic. Officially it advocates for more freedom, but in practice men are considered ‘harassing’ or ‘objectifying’ just for openly expressing their physical attraction to women. Why would they think so if they didn’t think sex is fundamentally dirty?

tzaanthor · 2023-09-04T03:00:33+00:00

Feminism is often touted as a left wing ideology. So is it really?

It's not. It's an expression of liberalism, which is on the centre of the political spectrum. That makes it as left wing as Ronald Reagan or Dick Cheney.

Motanul_Negru · 2023-09-16T07:18:17+00:00

My take on feminism is that it's a supremacist movement/ family of movements, and by that alone would qualify as right-wing. Of course, it's hardly that alone. Actual *ERFs are far-right.

Title	The Left and Feminism
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