Growing old while MGTOW

German992 · 2019-12-09T15:54:25+00:00

Thirty seven years old, and I don’t regret it thus far; especially not, when I see all of my married friends bitching about asking permission, and not having sex.

murph55 · 2019-12-09T16:06:13+00:00

58, been on this path over 30 years and never had a single regret. There are times when I do feel their pull, so to speak, but it never lasts long! I do chuckle at all my married friends , "hiding from the wife!" Lol

Dopeboy108 · 2019-12-09T15:59:11+00:00

im young at 28, amd i can say ive watched countless married couples split when times get hard. As far as kids taking care of you when your old? Im a 911 dispatcher that deals with the nursing homes often. Guess who doesnt visit? kids.

RedMeatTrinket · 2019-12-09T16:15:09+00:00

I'm old and I don't want someone "by my side", whatever the hell that means. I thought I did when I was in my 20s. I got married for 20 years. Got divorced and enjoy my peace and quiet. I have friends. I have some activities. I enjoy hanging at odd bars that have local live bands on the weekends.

My opinion is that people saying that are projecting their own fears. Maybe this is all and introvert/extrovert thing. I'm an introvert and I enjoy time to myself. I have a retirement job doing IT support and I interact with people every day. I also have a quiet locked office where I can work without being disturbed. I want a house that is quiet when I get home.

darkmanilluminate · 2019-12-09T16:07:05+00:00

50s, married 20 yrs then divorced. My still married friends truly are like mules yoked to the cart; their wives have grown haggard but they are still pulling the load financially, emotionally, etc, with very little reward or peace in their lives. Whereas I own my home, no mortgage, own car no loan, travel where & when as I want, am moving on to a 3rd career that is what deeply interests me without having to worry about how much or how little it pays. Also, I contribute both time & money to charities, have a good group of friends close by and far away (mostly men but some women & couples), & while I decline to participate I have regular opportunities for sexcapades if I so choose. Some of my MGTOW buds this age have dogs; I don’t currently because I’m on the move too much but I’m expecting to build my own home in the next 10 years so may get a companion animal down the line. I see the doctor on the regular just to confirm what’s working & what needs work, I don’t see how having a partner would enhance this life but I know from long experience how a woman will derail your dreams on the daily because her attitude is if you’re not there to serve her wholeheartedly, she “deserves” that imaginary man and she’s going to lie to you while she keeps on hunting him. Don’t be that prey.

DWShimoda · 2019-12-09T17:53:03+00:00

I'm well into my 50's.*

No regrets... period.

* BTW, also, I "retired" well over a decade ago (everything: mortgage, vehicles, etc... all "paid off" and since then... pretty much just managing my investments, puttering around engaging in my hobbies, taking care of my household, etc).

CpuDoc67 · 2019-12-09T16:26:57+00:00

Pure b.s. on the you'll die alone crap. I know of people who have been married 20+ years and still get divorced. Is the answer to just remarry so you don't get caught alone when the grim reaper pays you a visit.

I am alone but I am not lonely. I'm not a damn worker bee and my sexual activity it's not dictated by a single female.

I remember when I got engaged my boss at the time told me. "You must be tired of having sex lol".

After my divorce I promised myself never again. There is just no upside for me.

roxon89 · 2019-12-09T17:17:04+00:00

Trust me when I say that being alone is much better than being with a horrible woman.

navywarvet · 2019-12-09T16:13:58+00:00

I have heard many instances of a wife getting The aging sick husband to sign over his assets and then she never came back. I would say that, I would rather save my money to have a hot nurse take care of me at the end. When my dad died my mom and I took care of him. I’m very proud of that,but that is not the norm.

Jimi Hendrix said it best.

“I'm the one that's got to die when it's time for me to die, so let me live my life the way I want to.”

So it’s up to you man...good luck!!

GrisBosque · 2019-12-09T16:47:58+00:00

Its not a real issue...

Old married guys have gone fishing and worked in their garages and basements for generations. And in primitive cultures left for days to hunt..

Wasnt an accident... its a way to maintain sanity when you have a live in mindless blatherbot...

We are free of all the BS now... they can hold down jobs and pay their own way... And with artificial wombs their protected species status will evaporate.

Also all they wanna do is spend money on stupid shit....

Let them make that money....

By girls! Have a nice Feminist Utopia!

Clownschool14 · 2019-12-09T16:52:52+00:00

Coffins are built for one.

You come into this world alone, you go out alone.

If you want to retire with dignity and safety and comfort, the key is NOT fathering a bunch of kids and hoping they take care of you. The key is building wealth.

The great news is that you have time on your side because you are so young. Don't go into debt.

The average car payment is 500 dollars a month. If you put 500 dollars a month into mutual funds that earn the average for 30 years, you will have 5.something million dollars.

What do you think will help you when you are old and dying? An ex wife and a couple of kids that want to borrow money, or 5 million dollars?

SomeGhostingGuy · 2019-12-09T17:27:06+00:00

Almost 43, Oh boy would I hate having somebody around me all the time.

When you are young and horny the idea of having something to bang at hand in your home sounds pretty epic.

Later you realize that pussy has a price and the rarer you get it the more you have to spend in money AND time.

You also realize that (most) women unchecked would life in pig-sty's, only making things look "presentable" when visitors are announced (or they doll up themselves to leave the house)

Which is quite the opposite to the bachelor pad cliche depicting men as pigs.

Better to sleep alone in my king-size waterbed than alone on the couch while she sleeps in the living room. Nah.

binbagaccount · 2019-12-09T16:06:04+00:00

Anyone who says your rerget not having anyone by your side is taking a load of shit, I knew a 70 year old man and you know what the fool was going though his 3rd divorce, he said marriage was a mistake. His heath was poor and he struggled to get by, he had a mate who was unmarried and he retired at age 40 and lives a fantastic life.

That guy had experience.

You don't need women, if your lonely find another mgtow bro and hang out.

BadassGT-CS · 2019-12-09T17:53:13+00:00

I'm an old mgtow, 61yrs. Got divorced when I was 48. Last 13yrs have been the best of my life!! No regrets at all. Seen plenty of men die, and die while being treated like shit by their "loved ones". I would rather die alone, thank you! Don't worry about it. Have fun and enjoy your life of freedom, Brother!!

MikeHockinya · 2019-12-09T18:04:51+00:00

I'll be 50 next year, and I live alone with 2 bitches. A German Sheppard and a Staffordshire Terrier. I have a daughter I see every other weekend, and on Wednesdays. My older sons are grown men, and out on their own. I have a 21 year old cleaning lady that comes by on Monday's for a couple of hours. I have a huge TV, a PS4, a Switch, a PC, and fill my time with working on my PC and cars, playing with two high energy dogs, and cooking. I read on the back porch, play a few games, grow peppers and herbs, and don't really have a need for anything else. The cleaning lady has a drama filled life that she constantly complains about, and that is enough female interaction to last me a week. Do I miss having a girlfriend or wife? Not really when I look at the negatives. If I invited a woman into my life, my mostly quiet house would be filled with noise, my gaming would be moved into another room of the house, and my leisure time would be filled with endless chore lists. If I get lonely, I'll drive up the way with some guns and go shooting at a friends house, and afterward, we'll grill up some meat and drink a few. Prostitution is illegal in most of the united states, so when the need arises, I pull up porn hub for the 5 minutes it takes to go number 3, and go on with it. I have the dogs, and when they die off, I'll get another. When my cleaning lady moves on with her life, I'll get another. No worries here.

BiffBiffBiff27 · 2019-12-09T16:45:53+00:00

You could get married and be happy, then she dies or falls ill unexpectedly anyway. Life has no guarantees. The very rare few who remain together until the end are extremely lucky. Extremely lucky.

Make peace with uncertainty.

Scorpiontail · 2019-12-09T17:38:46+00:00

I'm over 60. When those days come, I can pay to have someone drive me to medical appointments, etc. Damn cheaper than a wife, and listening to some wife nag and chip away at me for twenty years (like my ex-wife), hoping I'll die sooner so she'll have more, isn't a cost I'm willing to pay. Dying alone? Meh, sounds great to me.

Sal_Yodada6502 · 2019-12-09T18:04:06+00:00

58 here. If you have the slightest bit of doubt, read up on the surging trend of so-called “gray divorce” for a very sobering realization.

iwanttheblanketback · 2019-12-09T18:26:11+00:00

I'm older. After the divorce, I started paying attention to the people around me. Once you stop looking at the world through Disney glasses and accepting what you see 'as is' the world changes. You see relationships aren't a peaceful and loving part of life to recover from how crappy the world is. You see the fights and provocations that go on. You see which one in the couple is causing most of the crap. You realize how small the number of couples who are happy together is. It isn't just because they shouldn't have been together to begin with. Or they grew apart or into different people. One person loves the other person less and is willing to cause upset and manipulate the other person to do what they want. Both sexes do this but it seems to me far more women do it than men. That is my observation of couples in my circles.

There is nothing worse than living with someone who causes an emotional roller coaster ride so they can control and manipulate you. Someone who seemingly turned into someone else and you feel alone around them. Sooner or later most men wake up and realize they married a demo version and now the trial period is over. Wives will emotionally beat you down until they get their way. They will withhold not just sex but any affection to control and manipulate you. Then you realize they love you less than you love them.

Any vulnerability you have shared or demonstrated around her will be saved and used in the future. It doesn't matter that she said she forgave you either. That is meaningless blather to indicate she is done discussing the issue and is ready to move on. They keep a list of things you did to them or should have done, and will never let you forget it. It's the same list they use to justify a divorce and will be used in court. Women don't really forgive, they just become passive-aggressive.

Most of us were raised to believe that the fairy tale was reality. There is a reason most married men tell single guys not to get married. You are getting the best relationship before you get married. It is true for men and women, we are on our best behavior before getting married. Some of it is caused by the hormones our brain releases. The rest is caused by our desire to attract the other person. But the mask slowly comes off afterwards.

If you want someone you companionship, get a dog. If you want to hang with people who have your back, male friends or family that you have learned are trustworthy. One good thing about getting older, as your testosterone levels decline the desire for a woman in your life declines to. As you gain experience observing the toxic behavior so many women exhibit towards men, the desire declines.

Do I wish I had some in my life daily? On one level yes, but I know the reality I have experienced and observed means the likelihood of that being real is too small to justify the risk. And the risk is far too high to recover from financially or legally as you get older. Just look at guys who get divorced just before retirement or shortly after.

ps

My ex-wife's husband has a retirement job in another city and an apartment there for the work week. I'm sure he opted for that than the destruction a divorce would cost him. She is such a 'pleasant' person. lol

waterfat · 2019-12-09T16:43:04+00:00

They never mention the insane amount of divorce.

One spouse will die before the other.

MrCarepig · 2019-12-09T17:26:04+00:00

Its just another blue pill story the myth of the lonely old man. Its bullshit

massy525 · 2019-12-09T20:28:31+00:00

I'll just say this. Start talking to middle age and older married men. Listen to the words they say and what they are really saying. Spend a few months doing this and you will self realize the truth.

KneeDeepThought · 2019-12-09T17:48:54+00:00

When you get old you'll regret her taking your kids away, more like it.

JohnPettimore · 2019-12-10T03:13:39+00:00

No.

No, no, no, no, no.

This is total bullshit, because if the reality ever became widely understood, society would collapse. No man would ever get married. Things are heading that way anyway.

I'm 57. The idea of having "someone by my side" is absolutely horrifying. Nothing, ever, comes for free, and that someone will turn out to have an agenda, or be basically kind of stupid, or dishonest, or just boring. I can count the number of guys I know in truly good marriages on one hand. The rest are just putting up with it. I sank twenty years into two LTR's, one marriage and one a girlfriend, and I regret them both, except for the children.

Now, at 57, I'm single and am going to stay that way forever. I should have done this in my thirties. I went today to pick up the lease for my new home. It's absolutely gorgeous. Big kitchen, lots of sunlight and hardwood floors. Woodstove. Patio that's perfect for working out. Huge office upstairs. And I don't have to share it with anyone. I can bike almost anywhere I need to go. The idea of having some woman in this place full-time would just destroy it.

That's Point One. Point Two is that the other little thing they don't tell you is that if you're reasonably together at middle age or beyond, you can have all the women you could possibly want, pretty much on your terms. I have a six foot tall Dutch woman, and a curvy little redhead who are both lined up for me, and I did absolutely nothing to snag them. They just showed up, and when I want them to, which I will, they will leave. This is ridiculously easy, and I'm bald and wear thick glasses. You don't have to be alone at all if you don't want to be, and you totally call the shots.

Finally, Point Three. When you're really old, you can have all the companionship you want or need, as well as help. You just have to fucking hire them. Which, to some extent, is true of younger women -- if they smell money, they'll be on their backs in five minutes. But look at this company: https://www.visitingangels.com/

My mother is closing in on ninety, and she uses these people. She has a stable of caregivers who help her dress, undress, get into and out of bed, and so on. They drive for her, cook, and keep her company. And she's doing great. She has plenty of company -- these are nice women. They like what they do, and she's gotten to be friends with them. Unless you're actually bedridden to the point that you need skilled nursing, or have dementia to the point that you're getting in fistfights with strangers, you will not be alone and sad if you have money. That's the bottom line.

The idea that you'll die alone and wretched is terroristic bullshit. It's blatant manipulation. Don't fall for it.

everydaygreyman · 2019-12-10T11:12:05+00:00

You will die alone anyway.

My mom left the hospital when my dad was dying of cancer and hid in the house.

There was another post on here the other day by someone working in the medical profession saying that it happens all the time. Or the wives hover like vultures and badger and demand all the keys to the kingdom as the poor bastard just wants to be consoled in his last moments.

Women's love is resource-based and utilitarian. Don't ever forget that. No utility, no love, and the past doesn't matter. Women are like holes in the sand you poor water (money) into.

ETA: If you're still afraid of dying alone go volunteer at a nursing home. The sights and smells and sounds will make you afraid of NOT dying alone.

Mahuvi · 2019-12-09T17:04:47+00:00

Im in my early twenties too. My take is, if a girl comes that is REALLY good then why not. But I wont do what Ive done twice already, be CONTEMPT and LIE TO MYSELF. Basically, be ready to die without a partner before you lower your standard or stick with someone that you don’t even like half of the time. Then you will die with someone next to you or no one at all, but know that you’ll die happy either way

King_Yautja · 2019-12-09T17:09:26+00:00

That's what friends are for.

Uttfttufftcytfcctf · 2019-12-09T18:33:25+00:00

Mid 30’s and my friend married, finding out his perfect wife is actually a cheating whore, but a divorce would be embarrassing for his family and he doesn’t know what to do. Barely holding it together and trying to keep a good appearance. I’m glad I’m not in that situation. I think it will explode into chaos soon.

selfism_mike · 2019-12-09T18:38:57+00:00

No, they are right. I have nobody at my side who steals my time, nags me, or tries to murder me when she meets someone better. I expect to have many years of only having myself to take care off and hopefully dying alone.

And you better hope you die alone. Everyone I knew who died alone went fast, from one day to the next. Those who didn't sie alone, but surrounded by their family, died screaming in agony from cancer.

Here is another funfact: if you really stay together till the end with your "loved one" there will be the day when one of you love birds wakes up beside a dead person.

jlg4880 · 2019-12-09T19:07:15+00:00

Fifty-three here, and I've no regrets going MGTOW.

Rarely do I feel the allure, but the few instances it does happen, I just go the Wally World and see the tattoo-slathered, flabby, greying land whales and their beaten down ATM's pushing their shopping carts and can't help but think: "Whew! Dodged that bullet!"

yawp1 · 2019-12-09T20:30:48+00:00

Divorced at 30. Was mgtow before it was a thing. No complaints. I've seen the hell friends of mine have been put through. I was lucky.

Emoney0187 · 2019-12-09T20:36:05+00:00

I think it matters what you want. I’m 38 and an MGTOW aware. I think if you are strong in your masculine core and stand up for yourself without compromising a marriage could possibly work. Notice how I said possibly. I truly believe that real feminine women do exist they are just difficult to find. I’m still open to it, but only a certain kind of women. NO SETTLING.

2019-12-09T20:36:50+00:00

40 years old and the loneliest I've ever been was when I was in LTRs. Monk six years now and will never go back. I just know what I like and don't have much interest in most other people. No family to speak of. No kids. Wouldn't have it any other way. They've never offeded me anything nearly as valuable as freedom they would have me trade.

I've seen too many old folks in nursing homes that never get visited by their spouse or family or anybody to think that that's any kind of guarantee.

StormOfHoney · 2019-12-09T21:09:16+00:00

With all the money you won't waste on thots, you'll be able to afford the best nursing home in your twilight years.

Shiningcrow · 2019-12-09T21:26:47+00:00

Only 27 but being single after the train wreck marathon of relationships I’ve had has put me at peace in a way I never knew whilst in a relationship. By the way, we all die alone. How many couples die together in bed?

2019-12-09T21:36:35+00:00

41, spent pretty much my entire adult life chasing the dream with women. Married once, never again. I’ve got no children of my own, though I do still keep in touch with my ex girlfriend’s kids. I’m not going to say I’ll never go down that road again but I’ve got no interest. I can sit around and do nothing all day, or I can play some golf, take a last minute vacation, etc. I’d rather wonder what to do with myself than wonder when I’m going to get yelled at for something I didn’t know I was supposed to do.

HoldenBalzac · 2019-12-09T21:58:09+00:00

I'm a Boomer been living MGTOW since before Al Gore invented the internet. (insert humor tag here) If you want someone to love you then get some dogs. If you want someone to take over your home and turn you into a servant then get a wife or GF. I've known lots of men who married their one true love only to lose everything in divorce court because wifey got bored. I've known some men whose wife controls their life and won't let them have friends and they're desperately lonely. So far as living alone, find out if you are an introvert or an extrovert. Introverts are comfortable with solitude. Extroverts need to be around people. I don't know how extroverts deal with it.

Another shaming tactic women use is ''You're going to die alone!'' I reply "So will you. Almost every animal that's ever lived has gone off to die alone. Except the ones who die while the lion is eating them." I guess that's why women are like cats, each one thinks she's the lion looking for a wounded antelope.

PHyL1X · 2019-12-10T02:34:17+00:00

45 and all married couples I know save 1 are miserable. The odds are too long for me and I don’t gamble as a general rule. I am self employed and financially stable. Having fuck you money is amazing and I’m glad I went down the path of financial independence years ago. I would have no where the amount of freedom (financial or otherwise...) if I was married. The comment about about investing in yourself and saving/investing for the future are so key.

My neighbour is redpill and mgtow but does keep a GF that has her own house. It’s the best scenario and he is straight up with her... “no marriage”... etc... my only comment to his path is his GF still just takes so much of his TIME... our most valuable asset. To each their own... the pussy just isn’t worth my time.

AbstruseMurmurings · 2019-12-10T07:26:18+00:00

When you grow old, she will not be by your side.

me-dgaf · 2019-12-10T09:12:03+00:00

54 years old.

At my age, the ratio of men to women is ridiculously in our favor if you are not a typical cuck/simp. No worries young man.

Title	Growing old while MGTOW
Author	Ressurwr3kd
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Date	December 9, 2019 3:53 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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No regrets... period.