Holy shit! This place is amazing!

Dontmindmebrother · 2019-02-19T23:29:49+00:00

Welcome ! I would suggest to start teaching them about the importance of accountability. This can prevent a bunch of issues.

shawshank919 · 2019-02-19T23:30:24+00:00

Well, they are 11 and 9. They are wonderful little kids, but I don’t want them to grow up to be complete fucking disasters. I’ve got them working on cars with me, doing things that teach them responsibility and skills they can use later on in life.

801735 · 2019-02-19T23:28:19+00:00

11,9 or 9,11? How disastrous are they? ]=)

is it possible to raise the in a manner to where they won’t end up AWALT and ruining dudes lives?

Probably not. It's a "decency" vs. "Der Untergang" kind of a battle. ]=)

Misogynes · 2019-02-20T02:31:46+00:00

Don’t let them major in gender studies or humanities or some other such bullshit.

A degree in finance might solve a lot of your problems, given how shit women are at it.

If they want to major in something else, then simply tell them they’ve got to double major.

Ofc they’ll still become thots... but at least they may not be broke thots.

They may actually be capable of supporting themselves and managing their finances, at least well enough to avoid becoming bottomless money pits dependent on daddy and sugardaddy and betabux for the entirety of their lives.

shawshank919 · 2019-02-19T23:40:27+00:00

Make sure you tell them that if they hit a guy he could very well hit them back. Stay away from the "you can't hit me cuz I'm a girl" training. Put them in some sort of self defense classes so they can defend themselves. That's what I'm doing with my daughter.

jaspreetbindra00 · 2019-02-20T01:19:57+00:00

Teach them how to code.

VadeRetroLupa · 2019-02-19T23:53:49+00:00

Welcome!

You can raise daughters well. It’s tough and the odds are against you. But if you inculcate a strong moral value system early on, such as delayed gratification, accountability, a good self image and confidence, not relying on external valudation, not being idiots, not being attention whores etc. it can make a big difference. Also being a masculine and well balanced male role model is important. They’re at an age where they will need you very much to be a good example of what a man should be, so they don’t run off with the first punk that gives them attention.

koldkillah83 · 2019-02-20T01:52:55+00:00

Teach them how to save money.

1st10Amendments · 2019-02-20T01:24:06+00:00

As I understand it, single fathers do better at raising children than single mothers do, but your mileage may vary. In my humble opinion, actually putting in some effort makes a difference.

MuleFool42 · 2019-02-19T23:32:05+00:00

Welcome to the sub! I have no idea about your questions though, hopefully there are some fathers that have daughters in here who can advise.

Misogynes · 2019-02-19T23:47:31+00:00

If they grow up with iPhones and feminist influence (all of society at this point, including school and media), then they’re gonna be thots.

Only way to avoid this would be to raise them in some sort of strict religious community without internet which still enforces traditional roles and gender segregation.

I’m assuming you’re not willing to do that though, so the odds are 1000 to 1 against you, or worse.

But none of us will judge you for failing at the impossible.

In a couple more years they’ll be blowing boys in the bathroom and snapchatting their twats around to everyone at school, if they aren’t already.

Worry not for that which you cannot control.

TruthSeekingPerson · 2019-02-20T01:07:40+00:00

Just love them, warm them about what men are after, and tell them the value of chastity. Oh, and make sure they love themselves for how they are.

flee_market · 2019-02-20T02:14:15+00:00

in your opinion is it possible to raise the in a manner to where they won’t end up AWALT and ruining dudes lives?

It's both nature and nurture.

A hundred years ago women never would've dreamed of openly living the sloot lifestyle - some of them were repressed enough by social shame that they didn't even attempt to do it covertly.

Basically, you'd need society backing you up to have any real chance at constraining what comes instinctively.

theanswerisinthedata · 2019-02-20T02:25:29+00:00

There is also a lot that can be said about respect. Modern women have little respect for men. In fact they are actively encouraged to disrespect men. I think teaching them to judge people on their actions and treat good people with respect (this goes for men/boys as well) is a good life lesson. However self-respect is just as important. Another thing lost on modern women. This isn't bulletproof by any means but they should turn out as better people for it. Oh also teaching them about the freedom/responsibility equation. (with freedom comes responsibility). Start this as early as possible. These should help to fight against some of the more abhorrent traits that are observed on modern women.

Profligate-Prophet · 2019-02-20T03:03:12+00:00

I dunno how this will be recieved her. But try r/redpillwomen. I think mgtow is awesome for guys. But if you are trying to teach young girls how to be respectful towards men and not buy into the lie of modern culture its a good place to go.

Mecha_Hobbit · 2019-02-19T23:47:58+00:00

Maybe talk about how things have changed, talk about each generation & the stressors & role expectations for the times. Then allow them to make their own observations at how vile woman can be. Get their feedback. Weave it into a context of a "US history lesson". As they age revisit & hesr their new perspectives. Since they can't experience it, show them things were different.

Some religion is good, but not forced upon them. I'm an athiest btw. In the past it seems having some mental barriers curtailed hypergamy.

They need to learn to 'be good' even when you're not around, or when no one's watching.

Nagamagi · 2019-02-20T02:35:46+00:00

Teach them good morality and manners. Also when the time comes educate them on the importance of saving themselves for their first night with their husband. Don't let them take the first ride on that cock carousel. Warn them of the heavy consequences. It will ruin not only thier lives, but yours, the husband and their children as well.

The_Stumper · 2019-02-19T23:35:10+00:00

Welcome!

DWShimoda · 2019-02-20T01:29:46+00:00

Quick question though... I’m a full time single father (37) to two daughters (11,9), I’ve had them on my own since they were still infants/toddlers, in your opinion is it possible to raise the in a manner to where they won’t end up AWALT and ruining dudes lives? Thanks in advance!

Not at all meaning to knock on the importance of a father's influence & example...

But much depends on the "community" they are raised in; what their peers and (extended) family, neighbors, etc find acceptable vs what they find UN-acceptable; that is what that "community" praises (and/or tolerates, rationalizes away, makes excuses for; and eventually "rewards") versus what they shame, shun, & punish.

AcrobaticAge · 2019-02-20T03:52:36+00:00

in your opinion is it possible to raise the in a manner to where they won’t end up AWALT and ruining dudes lives?

Hardly.

Every person is indeed a product of their upbringing, but also their environment.

Even if you educate them as upstanding humans, I have seen women teach other women how to be AWALTs. Our whole social environment doesn't help too.

I don't think it's impossible, just too damn hard that a decent woman nowadays is a statistic aberration.

Varsel · 2019-02-20T04:03:10+00:00

Teach them that just because they can do something, does not mean they should. Just because everyone is taking advantage, still does not mean they should. Fair play is the hardest concept for gals to learn, with emotional maturity a close second.

CBDOnMyMind3 · 2019-02-20T04:26:40+00:00

Welcome, my dude

lestratege · 2019-02-20T08:57:45+00:00

There is only one thing to make sure you teach them : that actions have consequences and that one cannot escape their own responsibility.

After that, they'll be full adults one day, and they'll decide on their own what they want to do. But daddy's lesson should be that whatever they choose to do, they will have to face the consequences.

OatsGYOW · 2019-02-20T00:02:07+00:00

Who cares about how big of a disaster they will be? They are your daughters - you should be happy to see them rope in and fuck over some stupid simp. They will leech off of some idiot, and live good lives and raise good children.

The best lesson you can teach them is to not throw that away for some pointless tingles, or risk it all on monkeybranching... Find one good guy before she hits the wall, and stick with him until the kids hit 18. Even if she doesn't technically love the guy anymore(Who can love a worthless simp long term?), her priority should always be her kids, so she doesn't die sad and alone.

Don't bother grooming your daughters to be unicorns. It is a waste of time and effort, and just sets you up for massive disappointment.

PrinceRaj53 · 2019-02-20T00:03:26+00:00

Welcome to a sub where truth is not sugercoated : does not matter how bitter it is.

I'm 18, currently having the kind of upbringing most can not think about in the west to be honest, So I would love to share my opinion with you (which is a fact) :

Help your kids to develop emotional wisdom (women rely on emotional reasoning, so emotional wisdom is necessary to exercise self control). Teach them about hard work , family values(specially this), how to not be overly emotional and instead be a little bit practical, how to do risk /reward analysis in critical situations for their partners in future, how to develop a great purpose in life with a life partner, and most importantly, how to take constructive criticism. Take it slow and steady.

If you are a good father (I'm not so sure you are, considering the fact that you are rising your daughters to be the exact same thing you dont want them to be : feminist instead of feminine), then everything else will fall in place correctly. Always remember, don't force unnecessary judgement or behavior into them, that can emotionally harm them. There's a reason men are men and women are women (gay and trans are exception since we can't call them straight men).

Make them stay away from the 70+ genders and trans/SJW/ feminism and all kinds of bullshit. These are like viruses that can corrupt any sane human being. Teach them in a way so that they can have a good lifestyle instead of following a hivemind thinking.

Make full use of red pill info on female nature, and raise your daughters in such a way that they will never even think about doing something immoral (its nearly impossible, but I'm sure you will try your best).

KaitouNala · 2019-02-20T03:37:40+00:00

TBH no... im not saying not to try but without curbing the pathetic over exaggerated male thirst coupled with social media and one sided social norms in addition to broken family courts there really is no consequence to becoming an AWALT.

Even if you do your best eventually one if not all of the above aforementioned factors will probably "enable" them to be just another dime a dozen...

Some of the suggestions i saw bellow are probably the best bet, personal accountability, delayed gratification and probably one of the more important is not giving into social pressure to do something that may violate their moral compass.

Feel alot of whats wrong with society in general is group think.

t353tfb · 2019-02-20T07:37:28+00:00

It's not possible. They are hard wired AWALT. The only thing that somewhat limits their hypergamy is living in a strong traditional values society. Since we don't have a society like that, your efforts are doomed. As soon as they grow up and leave home they will behave as badly as all other women.

DangZagnut · 2019-02-20T08:48:31+00:00

Don't support activities that are pretty much destined to make them strippers.

Use strong discipline to prevent such thottery, but then you are going to have to compete with every form of media and public education (I'm assuming).

poppyseedcake · 2019-02-20T09:26:04+00:00

This may get me down voted to hell.

Please teach them that the happiness that can be achieved by drug use is just a beautiful lie, EVEN if it feels every bit as real as anything in the world.

It is still possible to achieve those feelings without a chemical.

It was a hard lesson for me to learn and I'm still paying the consequences I started using when I wasn't much older than your oldest.

I worry so much I've seen too many women (hell anymore the ones I run into are kids to me...damned if they are only 20 or so that's a kid to me.) that the reason they fell into this trap was that a chemical made them feel more loved than anyone else.

I'm sorry it probably doesn't come through in a reddit post just love your kids and actually listen to them.

I know that sounds cliche, but if you do that I can almost guarantee regardless of your political/theological worldviews it'll be ok.

immaluckez · 2019-02-20T09:35:55+00:00

You are a true great father, hats off. Welcome :)

arkyleslyfox · 2019-02-20T10:14:24+00:00

It will be difficult, why put hard work and years of effort in when opening your legs achieves the same if not more level of wealth, if a woman is attractive she'll realise she doesn't have to do much beyond looking good in order to snag a wealthy man that she could divorce rape at a later date and be set for life, its the society we live in unfortunately

Teflon08191 · 2019-02-20T10:24:51+00:00

in your opinion is it possible to raise the in a manner to where they won’t end up AWALT and ruining dudes lives?

Honestly, anything you could do will likely be canceled out by their friends' influence. Women have an especially hard time "going against the grain", so they generally end up settling right into whatever degenerate mainstream trends they're exposed to. There's really no feasible way to prevent that exposure anymore.

The best thing you could do in my opinion is teach them to be independent. Don't let them get the idea in their heads that there's a man out there who will marry them and assume your role as a provider for them for their adult lives.

Women who can't put together a survival plan for themselves without a man in their life are going to be fucked as more and more men eschew relationships with them.

PotOfBeans · 2019-02-20T11:09:51+00:00

Unlike what the trad cucks here say I think bringing them up like boys is a good thing, they'll know what qualities they need to look for in a man and have greater appreciation for men unlike feminists who take for granted what men do, just make sure they are brought up feminine as well. People here are complaining about female nature and that they won't change, that's bullshit, nature has an influence on women but so does nurture and nurture can override nature, humans are a species that are meant to adapt.

I would try and push your daughters into medicine, I've heard there's good part time work for women there. When it comes to your daughters sexual lifestyle I would try and be as neutral as possible, if you try and push them in one direction they may feel like you're bossing them around and become rebellious, you don't have to be completely neutral but the point is to give them the illusion of choice while guiding them down the right path, tell them if they become sluts they'll get STD's, get used for sex, get no commitment, find it harder to get married and have higher standards for men they could marry and therefore never find a happy relationship (failing to pair bond). Tell them they should get married and have children young then they should build their career afterwards.

The most important thing though is to teach your daughters to teach their children the same values. Also teach them delayed gratification and not to fall for peer pressure from their slutty millennial friends.

thejus7 · 2019-02-20T11:15:28+00:00

Hey, I know I'm late to your post but I'd like to offer my 2 cents. I hope you read it.

Teach them that self reliance is one of the greatest things a human is capable of. Why? A woman who is determined to not depend on anyone will not live off alimony, will reject it, will get gifts for HER S.O instead of the other way around, and won't get a sugar daddy. She will have self respect.

Team them that the world is fair in the sense that it isn't fair to anyone. Why? The second they realize the everyone has their issues, they won't go on some kind of feminist crusade. Realizing that everyone is disadvantaged in some way will make them play to their strengths, if you do it right. Feminists and SJWs make a hue and cry about how disadvantaged THEY are. Teach them that everyone suffers from some disadvantage.

Give them morals, something strong to anchor them to. A person with few, but unshakable morals can always look back on their life and say "Hey, I came this far and never wavered from my goal, NOT ONCE. If I can do that, I can do anything).

Lastly, teach them consequences. Why? Any person, who realises that consequences have actions don't resort to being victimized, even if they ARE the victims. She won't cheat because of a) morals, b) consequences of their actions, won't lie, etc.

Also don't listen to the guys here who say "don't raise them like guys blah blah you'll regret it". If womanly nature is bad, and they can't subscribe to learning like guys, then there's no winning for them! And that's just untrue, there are always diamonds in the trough. Teach them fishing, martial arts, etc. Teach them modelling is shallow and appearances are deceptive. You raise them right, and it'll be worth it, dude.

Hope it helped. Good luck on the path!

boytjie · 2019-02-20T11:46:42+00:00

As well as accountability, a worthwhile father/daughter gift is to cultivate male interests. Tomboys are incredibly popular with males and it’s not a disadvantage to them with other women (except jealousy at the male attention). It is an advantage to a plain girl over prettier competition. A girl who knows about cars and guns? Video games? Sport? Who can discourse knowledgeably about beer brands? Who could throw a ball and run properly? They are rarer than hen’s teeth. If they are pretty as well – game over. She will have the male world in the palm of her hand. You would hand significant power to your daughters. If they choose to manipulate men they will be Goddesses. I don’t know about AWALT. I think that’s peer training (their clique of girl friends). You can only pass on your values and hope for the best.

DT1726 · 2019-02-20T13:19:17+00:00

in your opinion is it possible to raise the in a manner to where they won’t end up AWALT and ruining dudes lives? Thanks in advance!

You have to know that their nature won't change, however can be restrained. Teach them self discipline and how to value men. You see marriages in poor countries rarely ended up in divorce because the men are valuable in the women's eyes. Men are the primary breadwinners and that's why women value men in those countries.

However by empowering women, they think men are just extras not necessity aka my husband is disposable, I can get another one in a heart beat plus I get his money too.

Women live for the moment, they don't plan far for the future and they twist the past as they like. They want the 'love' now, not later nor before. Many western women are complete train wreck because they were treated like Disney princess. Pop that fucking bubble, tell them exceptions do exist but rarely ever happen so don't count on that.

Set boundaries for yourself, teach them the consequences but don't try to restrict them, let them learn on their own. One is going to reach puberty and may rebel. Give them monthly allowances and let them learn to manage money, don't buy them anything when asked.

Tough time ahead but may peace be with you.

Drawrtist123 · 2019-02-20T19:59:32+00:00

You're going to be in for a rough time... Even with proper teachings, you are stuck up shit-creek without a paddle. You can't fight the societal norms. They have every avaliable opportunity to go against you, and even others will go against you as well. I'm sure you've already noticed glares and people acting off towards you because you're out with your daughters.

You can't fight the laws, and you can't control hypergamy. If you get lucky, they may not grow up to hate men, but it's their choice at the end of the day because that's what is forced upon them by entities far bigger than you... Don't mean to sound harsh here, or drag you down but as important as brotherhood is, I'd rather tell you things you don't want to hear, but need to... Just... Do your best, and good luck my man.

kyledontcare · 2019-02-20T12:46:40+00:00

Welcome! Read, share, learn and above all, grow yourself. God bless, and stay away from marriage and women.

conquersex · 2019-02-20T15:29:27+00:00

Religion is a good way. I follow a religion which does not allow illicit sex (sex outside of marriage, or porn/masturbation) and once one loves God and wants to serve him and respects His wishes for his children, they try hard to respect his rules.

BoskOfPortKar · 2019-02-20T15:52:46+00:00

> in your opinion is it possible to raise the in a manner to where they won’t end up AWALT and ruining dudes lives? Thanks in advance!

Maybe after the collapse... Mine are 13 and 16 and I have to be savage (regular MGTOW truths) to have them different ... at least for a while... but AWALT in the end in this environment.

mgtow_solutions · 2019-02-20T16:00:25+00:00

Since you're new here, don't ever reveal that you have an interest in MGTOW. Don't show your power level.

Holy shit! This place is amazing!

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I know you don't want to hear it, but sounds to me like you're making the mistake that nearly all DODO's (*) make:

LOL, as I said, you're raising them AS IF they were sons, instead of daughters.

what are YOU going to do if (or more likely when) one of them gets pregnant at age 16? (or 15, 17, 18, whatever).

That's actually not an answer.

See how many times you repeated the word "hope" there?

Translation: you have no plan; you have no strategy, no tactics.

Remember, EVERY SINGLE ONE of those 'blue haired' feministy bitchy THOT slut hoes, with 'sugar daddy' seeking arrangement things, or pole dancing, cam whoring etc ... was once upon a time -- and usually just a FEW YEARS PRIOR -- a nice little 'innocent' girl.

This USED to be the function of parents READING (or at least TELLING) stories to their kids at bedtime, etc: "folk tales"...

No.

THIS^.

That's a dumbass thing to teach a daughter.

"It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise, than for a man to hear the song of fools."

I don't sugar coat things, and I see no reason to NOT rebuke something that is a massive error.

Yes it is.

This is insipid crap.

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