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[–]beenthere789229 points230 points231 points 7 years ago (52 children) | Copy Link
All good points.. Was once a thirsty beta chaser.. Removed myself from the simp pool.. But unfortunately I'm sure there is at least one to replace me. Luckily there is the wall that evens everything out at some point.. If you go your own way, realize you're doing it for yourself and to feel good, not to punish women because they are too self centered to care
[–]Sir_manalot64 points65 points66 points 7 years ago (39 children) | Copy Link
The only proven way to end the cycle is to give every man the women he wants, but only that women.
The chads will marry off and the top 20% will go down the chain until even incels get what they want.
Relying on simps to stop simping isn't going to work as 90% of men are juat as enslaved to there nature as women are to there own.
I think it haa been proven by this point.
[–]Morphs_75 points76 points77 points 7 years ago (33 children) | Copy Link
The root of it all lies in human sexual desire. Overcoming this desire for the other sex is the only way to change the dynamic.
As long as most men are reacting completely on their biological inpulse, the cycle will remain.
[–]Kinetic_Wolf45 points46 points47 points 7 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
I like to compare this to how many men are able to overcome their urge to overeat, in a society with endless calories available around each corner. Very few can. In terms of waist size (better measurement than BMI), over 80% of men (and women) are overweight. So maybe 20% of men are able to fight against their impulse to overeat. I'd wager sex-drive is even stronger than the impulse to eat more after you're full, so hell, maybe 10% of men have what it takes.
Most humans are pathetic NPCs.
[–]john2123232 points33 points34 points 7 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
It’s not just sexual. It’s all the constant barrage of “happy couples” you see in every movie and TV show, that it’s enforced from your childhood that single people are not happy. The sex destroys the judgment and makes us fail to think of just how awful most women are. All it takes is seeing one happy couple in real life and the belief that one needs a woman in order to be truly happy is cemented into his psyche. Only after epic heartbreak does one break through the lifetime long illusion and see them for the traps they are. My life was ruined many times by women. I keep falling for the super sweet and kind routine, thinking “all people are different, and maybe she’s legit nice” only to discover years later the terrible truth.
[–]Kinetic_Wolf20 points21 points22 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Even if society had fair rules between the sexes, I'd only consider having a relationship with a woman I can enjoy being with outside of sex. But finding one would be a challenge, as an understatement.
[–]john2123213 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
They always fake it at first until they know they have your heart. Gee, she jus so happened to like everything I like until years later when the truth comes out.
[–]bala919 points20 points21 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
women dont like me because they know they cannot bullshit me. At the end of the day, Im perfectly happy beating off to women on the internet. Thank you. My penis knows no difference 1 second after its done
[–]ScottyHoliday4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Likewise, though they still try. I think some women mistake it for 'he has issued a challenge'. They get shut down, after which I would hope they go tell one of their babydaddies what they're mad about.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
"Having you heart" is code word: for: "Being able to manipulate at will"
[–]john212322 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sad but true. I’m a weak pathetic excuse for a man and my only option is to avoid relationships.
[–]volvostupidshit1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The term is mirroring. People with PDs employ this tactics, consciously or subconsciously, to catch their targets off guard.
[–]retal1ator18 points19 points20 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
If you have super sweet and kind relationships that lasts years, perhaps in the end it doesn't all go to shit because women were pretending, but because that's how supposed to be biologically. I enjoyed my time with women and I still do, but by never expecting love to be some magical endless state of mind I prepare myself for when things eventually falls apart.
This not only includes not expecting the other person to be a lifelong companion, but also accepting that people change the way they see you and keeping psychologically and financially ready for when it all ends and she starts to be mean to you.
I don't pretend to have all the answers, life is a teacher that kills its students. But at least I don't blame people for when the magic ends... Its not their fault because that's how it works after all.
[–]themindiseverything06 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Life is a teacher that kills its students! Wow
[–]retal1ator2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Its an old saying from where I come from.
[–]CreativeThought881 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I just said the same thing and I might steal that
[–]AvailableGuava1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Great post, I'm printing it out. The blue pill is strong with this one. Been over ten yrs, and I'm still not right
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Your last paragraph has a great quotable.
Here's another one for everyone
"Sometimes I swear I feel like my own man Everybody around me is programmed"
[–]r1a1i1n4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is very true. It seems as though it takes a period of awakening and a change in your perception in order to even realize that such notions were taught to you and are not real. It is all a good act but there are moments when it has holes. If a person is oblivious or just wants to believe the lie they conveniently miss the signs that it is all bs.
[–]GoatKnows3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Think about all the hormone filled Beauty products sold, the fact that the majority of teachers are female, the nurses, the fact that women are featured in sports a commentators when they don't even play the sports, they are everywhere even the boy scouts now, all boys had to have validation from a woman from day one. Also remember our fellow men created this conditioning so that they may never see the day society fueled & ruled by men would mean an equal playing ground.
Lastly 10% or less is all that we need one man can lead an army & one man can change the world. It's just that the right man hasn't rizen up yet.
[–]beenthere7892 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
All good points.. But men are the stronger sex Imo... I also learnt to fast.. Lost 60 pounds and once you stomach shrinks your overeating urges shrink... Same with sex.. You can control it if you want but we are all men.. Not saying don't have sex.. Just don't be a wanton humper.. Use your own protection.. Be respectful but do it on your terms..and Not hers so you don't get suckered into a trap you will regret..or just rub one out once in a while.. Way cheaper and quicker than divorce and child support payments for 18 years.. With all the money you have saved, treat yourself to something YOU REALLY WANT..
[–]PleaseComeCorrect2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
God damn, bro... Calling someone an "NPC" is the most deeply hurtful modern insult I've heard... This is my new go-to "fuck you" insult.
I can't thank you enough for the endless fount of souls I'm going to crush. Have an upvote, you savage.
[–]r1a1i1n1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I understand how you feel about everyone feeling like NPCs. I swear it feels like im in the truman show or something sometimes. They just seem like they are not in control of any of their thoughts or actions. Just tools
[–]BoskOfPortKar0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
BMI is indeed not a good indicator. I have 25.5 but only muscles and a small skeleton.
[–]Kinetic_Wolf1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. BMI works for very large populations to give a rough idea, but for smaller groups or individuals, inferring body fat % from waist measurement is much more accurate.
[–]Sir_manalot8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
The issue is that most men are just born to stupid or weak to overpower there biology.
[–]Crankshaft1337[🍰] 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Their*
[–]matt6752 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Also “too” not “to stupid”
Lmao the ironing 😂
[–]JackieChansArmpits2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
But mother nature is very powerful. Sex drive is the reason we and most other animal species continue to exist. It's hard to go against something that's been around for millions of years and is engraved in your genes.
[–]Morphs_2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yes, that's why these systems persist. And that's also why mankind continued to search for ways to abolish desire throughout history.
Meditation is one such method, it's powerful but still requires great effort and consistency. And even then, our natural is programmed to seek out sexuality.
I myself have fallen victim to this as well, resulting in a pregnant single mother of 3, with a kid of mine on the way. Life is all about learning and developing.
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[–]Morphs_0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well, the sex drive is there definitely. For change to come it doesn't have to come to a complete halt of our reproduction - I assume.
It may be too late though. If feminism has entangled itself too deeply in our western society, it may not be possible to CTRL-Z ourselves back to a more favorable state. Maybe there will be too much resistance and instead laws will be put into place which basically force men to reproduce and hand over their resources.
Keep your eyes on Japan, as they are ahead of the curve. Very curious to see how the big MGTOW movement there will pan out.
[–]mkultra331 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
T H E C Y C L E
[–]0897867throwaway0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I really like this response. Not all women and not all men are like that, but all the people that rely on their biological impulses are.
[–]theanswerisinthedata15 points16 points17 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What you are describing is exactly the strategy that was employed to develop modern civilization, monogomy. It happened to be delivered through Christianity because at the time that was the most influencial group. But it was understood that if you created rules to force the equitable distribution of women and men then all men were motivated to produce (or HAD to). Thus driving innovation and development. There was also the benefit of calming the sexual competition between men allowing them to focus on production. This was all done to benefit the elites (and still does to this day). The introduction of monogamy to our species was breaking ground for the plantation. And since the sexual revolution (feminism) broke down that construct we have marched down the path we now find ourselves on. Making many men walk away from the shit show. Fortunately men can now live a life without a partner and there are lots of things to entertain us we just can't let our gender devolve, but rather encourage each other to thrive without the motivation of having a woman.
There is a lot more I could say but I'm going to stop there.
[–]matt6758 points9 points10 points 7 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Herein lies my problem with the hypocrisy of the red pill movement. You can’t say women should have a low number count while also preaching the gospel of men sleeping with as many women as they can. It’s not a sustainable model in theory or in practice.
[–]Sir_manalot4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are right.
It is the equivalent of women trying to eat there cake and have it to with the alpha fux/beta bux model that just leads to misery and endless hamstering.
Men need to pick:
The virgin housewife model. Men have to work atleaat twice as hard (including hours) to pay for her, have unsatisfactory sex lives and give up personal freedom. In exchange, he gets the women with the personality he wants, is king of the household, gets a more beautiful women then he could have otherwise and can have all the kids he wants without the fear of her fucking him over.
The sexual liberation model. Men have to deal with women having control of there bodies, have to pay for children that they do not have and have to work harder to get sex (get a better game and such). In exchange, men can get far better sex and more varied sex, gets far more personal freedom, can freely spend his life on himself instead of working hard to please his society, have a much less stressful life and can live his life how he wants to live it.
Obviously, men can choose monk instead too (like many mgtow are), but that is besides the point. The current model men are fighting for is just as cancerous as the one women are trying to run now. It just doesn't work.
[–]NoThirst2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"quit chasing"......until a man's eyes have been opened regarding the true nature of women and the absolute lie of the dream.. that's like asking him to quit breathing.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The root of it all is women's voting. Stop entrrtaining others ideas. If they don't vote, everything will sort out in a few years.
[–]bluescape9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
But unfortunately I'm sure there is at least one to replace me
Thirsty dudes are basically the Imperial Guard; for every one that falls, ten more will take his place.
[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well I for one would rather be Yoda living in a swamp by myself
[–]beenthere7891 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yes.. Probably right.. That's why mgtow is important.. Who gives a shit about those simps.. Eventually they will either go mgtow because they have half a brain.. Or end up on the street poor and broken and miserable because some thot sucked them dry.. And as you drive by them just feel sorry them.. They didn't know any better..
[–]alamsohel19905 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Brother the thoughts you posses are funny and sorry. Calm yourself brother, all of us have half a brain . The problem with modern civilization is deep rooted, fighting with it requires more than a room full of full brains. The awareness is the most valued asset for us now.
[–]beenthere7891 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yea.. You don't know what you don't know till you know it... First step .. But it is good to find a community that understands..
[–]Zarxxis6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I am still thirsty but not for real girls. I now adore 2d girls, :)
[–]vampyreorlokk4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, women have plenty of willing souls to leech from
[–]Loban89901 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There's like 8 of them for every many who goes Mgtow.
[–]Alexia_ynwa0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What made you remove yourself the simp pool?
[–]beenthere78917 points18 points19 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Experience... Over 5 years.. Was out of the dating pool for 30 years.. Wife passed away.. Dated a ton (50+)with many "relationships".. worst results were with being a white knight and gentleman.. Women don't respect it or care for it today. Not the way it was a long time ago.
Women are like cats.. The more you chase them, the more they run away.. Actually got tired of the bs.. But I can tell you with out a doubt, the ones that were most worked up were the ones I gave a shit the least about.
You get a vibe or an energy by not giving a shit.. And it drives women crazy to the point they are dropping their panties.. It's not about being alpha or a pua.. It's about gyow and not feeding their ego which they so desperately want and need.. All the time while focusing on yourself and doing what makes you happy and having a fun life.. All in your own terms and frame.. The less you give them..the more they want of you... But it takes discipline to get over your inate biological desires and wanting to please them so you can get them..
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
it’s funny you say that because at the end of my relationship with my ex she basically said that she’s like a cat
As far as I’m concerned she can go shit in a box of sand
[–]DefensivePositions-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How did you reach that point?
[–]Fantoche_Dreemurr109 points110 points111 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Just remember you are the prize to be won, not the woman.
[–]Darkkdrifter51 points52 points53 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
To be the prize also means you are the prey...be careful brothers.
Non serviam!
[–]Mr_Lonesome2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Most men treated invisible/disposable in society, ridiculed in media, gutted in courtrooms can't quite believe this feel-good notion. Suicidal, homeless, jobless men out there have to live in the real gynocentric world. Sluts (a dime a dozen) get easy chances with men but the counterpart only studs (very, very rare) get easy chances with women.
[–]Gibits76 points77 points78 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I’m a beta provider and a MGTOW. But I’m not simp. The best part about being a provider with no one to provide for? More money for myself!
[–]TigPlaze33 points34 points35 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yup. My money belongs to ME, not to some damn woman.
[–]DarkNights29216 points17 points18 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They had us in the first half, not gonna lie
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Then you are not beta. But like me, not necessarily alpha. You are uniquely you.
[–]matt6754 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I feel you on this
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fuck buying them dinner the only purpose that places like OK Cupid and plenty of fish and the other sites Serve is to give the restaurant owner is a constant stream of stupid men spending money on them
[–][deleted] 49 points50 points51 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Chase money, not women.
[–]Hugeknight20 points21 points22 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Chase nothing especially money it's a worse drug when compared to women.
Just enjoy life.
[–]insertcredit27 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Chase a job you love. Make enough money so that you're never worried about bills. Don't stress about the little things.
[–]Hugeknight1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good for you.
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Terrible advice. Chase happiness/fulfillment, not money. Tons of people with money who are unhappy. If your world revolves around money, you end up like the Chinese (morally bankrupt and rude people).
[–]MikeRocksBoat24 points25 points26 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If women were chihuahuas or purse Pomeranians, thirsty men are the annoying doggy mamas that make excuses for their snookums.
Wow... that's like the best metaphor.
[–]debanked25 points26 points27 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
A sip of Brawndo will mutilate that thirst
[–]Marque019 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It has electrolytes which plants crave :)
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[–]bluescape2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Fuck you, I'm eating
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Welcome to Costco, I love you.
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[–]ScottyHoliday7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Whenever a dude in my presence begins to act like a retard because some attention whore is nearby--"Man, LOOK! Look at her, she's hot"--as she stands there soaking it up while ignoring him, I tell him, "Let me know when you've fucked her." Usually sobers the retard up, as he had no intention of approaching her and fully expected you to stand there with him admiring her useless ass.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It’s not the fault of these men. It’s the fault of society and the media for telling these men otherwise. It’s the fact that the MGTOW movement is so far pushed behind everything else. The only way we can get more men to wake up is by waking them up.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The Walt Disney Corporation had a lot to do with this propaganda
Basically training young boys to worship girls
I hate this crap😡
I hate it when I was a kid and I hate it now
https://youtu.be/N12dH1lIE74
[–]rlh4454 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
The thing is that while all these things ring true, it’s hard for a normal man to see them. Something has to happen to drive a man to swallow (sometimes inadvertently like in my case) red pills, accept the truth for what it is and then work through that process.
I am not specifically pointing you out, but the attitude you show (retards, waking up, etc.) seems pretty prevalent here sometimes and I can’t help but assume most of the time the comments are made by long time mgtow.
I have been following the mgtow (no cohabitation, no marriage) philosophy for a couple years now and still simp daily. Sometimes I know when I’m doing it, sometimes I’m shocked to realize it later on and sometimes I just do it because it feels good.
Sometimes I hate myself for it other times I know it’s just been drilled into me for a couple decades now....it’s hard to defeat the massive brainwash even though you know it’s there.
I am really envious of mgtow brothers who are free from their biological and reptilian urges because I have been struggling over here 😅
[–]alamsohel19901 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Best solution for this is to date an ugly girl . Be lovely to them and see what they bring you in return .
[–]anidnmeno1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The same shit, motherfuckers chase ugly girls, too
[–]rlh4450 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
i will try this, thanks.
[–]ScottyHoliday0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It 'feels good' to simp?
[–]rlh4451 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
easiest way to get female validation.
[–]ScottyHoliday0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Makes sense.
[–]SearchOver1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
To use the old market quote- The best time to learn was 20 years ago, but barring that, the best time is now.
[–]st8ovmnd0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
amen my man!!!!!
[–]Satyricon615 points16 points17 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's hard to control biology. Most of the time you have to be beaten to the ground to realize how wrong it is. That's how I learned and I'm guessing how most of us learned.
V true
[–]TigPlaze12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. There's no "If I act like a cunt, I won't be able to get a man."
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Thirsty betas will forever chase. Chizzled Chads will forever slay. This is the way things have and always will be.
This is why MGTOW isn't a movement. We don't care about the natural way of things. We don't play the game any way but how we want to if we want to. So they can keep calling us names. They can boast their meaningless accomplishments, we will still be going our own way.
Exactly. Nothing can phase us other than ourselves whether they like it or not. They had their chances and they fucked it up.
[–]consios883 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
should focus on getting average to above average men to stop thirsting. and make thirsting look like something only low status men do and that women should not get any high from it. Because not thirsting will not help lower status men either way because of hypergamy they are screwed no matter what. atleast now they get homemade sexy pics and vids.
[–]DicamVeritatem2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why do so many women’s OLD profiles require a man be 6’ tall?
Because they noticed they can do so and still have full inboxes.
[–]gangsta_13 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Sex robots can help to some extent.
[–]Gordon-G1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
and legalize Prostitution, make it common, safe and inexpensive ... If the soy simp boys actually got laid frequently they would realize women are not to be idolized, to be placed on a pedestal. Men are the prize and not the slot-C thots
[–]ScottyHoliday2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's funny. She enters a room full of dudes and does something to draw attention to herself--pops gum, bends over for no reason. As expected EVERY thirsty idiot in the room will break his neck to look. Meanwhile: her attention is focused on the one guy who is NOT looking. Common thirsty idiots are a dime a dozen, they grow boring to the narcissistic female. The guy who gives not a shit about her (and MEANS it, no sneaking peeks at the bitch) stands out to her. And it's STILL for bullshit reasons.
[–]theantiChad2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
4 sho, yo!
[–]Aro22202 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
The only way you are going to stop thirsty men from chasing is either a) kill all unmarried men after a certain age or b) make marriage serious and people are forced to have a single partner or else face severe consequences.
Quite frankly I think B worked before and it will work now. Alphas don't provide enough value to the species to warrant destroying the majority of relationships. Maybe back in cave man days when someone had to wrestle the sabre tooth tiger but it has progressively gotten less valuable.
[–]carninja682 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
But big daddy government will just pick up the slack from the alphas
[–]KumonRoguing1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Which is an idea I hate to see people parroting here. Sad for the community to not take a more libertarian based stance.
[–]Aro22201 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It will try to do that, but it will fail. That's why socialism always ends up in disaster. You centralize all power and decision to a fine point and then you expect one wizard behind the curtain to be able to manage everything. If that person is a human you will always have incompetence and corruption. And I think Stalin and Mao and Pol Pot are par for the course -- not some unlucky worst case scenario.
The only way it might even 'function' is if you put some super AI in that position. An unknown AI, with unknown thought processes so complex that the entire human race couldn't keep track of it... yes, give that ultimate power. And just hope there won't be a bug, or a flaw, or it comes to some conclusion like hey this would be a lot easier if all the humans were dead...that's about the best case scenario for socialism.
The only solution is a libertarian one. Everyone must bear some measure of responsibility. People who do not wish to join in holding up the world like some kind of communal Atlas, should not have a share in it.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's more likely to be A due to conflict.
It's a natural way of cycling times.
The only time A ever exists is in peace times. When the tribe is calm and an alpha can rise to the top. But if that alpha is a tyrant the betas will get together and literally tear him to pieces. And then there is no order... and yeah a lot of people will die directly or indirectly but you can't say that it would be directed to just all unmarried men after a certain age. To be honest, a lot of those would be the deadliest fighters. Experienced, strong, and nothing to lose... they are unlikely going to be the losing party in a FFA.
I think the instability that comes from destabilizing pair bonding between man and woman is going to be like going from a nation where neighbors could rely on each other to a nation where neighbors actively plot each other's deaths.
[–]Blogginginvicecity0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Women didn't spoil women.
[–]Did_I_Die0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
the majority of boomer males are to blame.
wtf happened to masculinity in that generation?
was it all the drugs the boomer males took in the 1960s, 70s, 80s?
[–]sauceybeast1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Couldn’t be more facts in one post
[–]ramfex211 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This post is 100% correct.
[–]xdrunkagainx1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Shame your boys for being thirsty simps. A good couple of ball bustings will get a guy to wake up most of the time
[–]A_Stylish_Man1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wise words from a great fellow MGTOW brother. 🙏
[–]LogansGun1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is something I've thought alot about. We are so quick to blame women because of thier ingrained desire for hypergamy and cheating but men were supposed to be the ones who suppressed that shit. Beta males really are the root of the problem in a twisted way.
[–]Hereddit31 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Men need validation as well. Many men only identify by two things: what they do for a living and how many women they can get. I know of two guys in their late 30s who are on a pussy hunt 24/7. One is pseudo married. The other, has a live-in girlfriend with a baby due. Yet, all they do is scan their environment for chicks they can bed. Being their friend was tiring. It felt like high school. I blame their need for feminine validation on many insecurities they haven’t addressed.
[–]Profitglutton1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
All that makes for more desperate women when they hit the wall and the attention dries up.
[–]Gordon-G1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Most men today are soy beta wimps.
[–]Reith801 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah it's an endless cycle that can probably only be broken with sex dolls reaching high realism, to completely replace women. These dolls will be either too expensive, though, or just downright forbidden when countries realize that people don't want to start families anymore and child birthrates are extremely low. But I'd also guess that if humanity continues to go down the current path of gynocentric society, then even the simps will stop "simping" out of fear of having their lives ruined by one unhappy slut.
I think we should keep a closer eye on Japan, it might soon become a good early example of what will happen under our current circumstances.
[–]tylerden1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Couldn't agree more. I was part of that. This little bitches go through live literally thinking they did nothing wrong.
Everyone just kissing there asses no matter what. It's shameful on my part. However this chain of thought does lead to a cynical pov.
However I am shamed, that is for sure.
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[–]garmanz1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You cant stop young man.
Teenages nowadays full of hormones and they cant control it, and with the help of internet, porn and social media, they get sexual releases quick and easy.
But that shit creates addiction. A dose of dopamine. Now young men crave sex to find balance, and must get it when the withdrawal hits.
Really hard to control if you re young.
[–]happybeta0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So let it be written. So let it be done.
[–]ABoiofGreatSpice0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Supply always rises to meet demand. Stop chasing after multi-gender she-whales and maybe they'll think about hitting the gym to be more desirable.
[–]shivaay690 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
With fall in Testosterone each year and increase in EDs and number of low libidinous Men this sort of Beta behavior is on the high rise,wonder why though.
[–]peacevibes130 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Agree,first of all it all begins with men,we allow them destroy ourselves,we show our alpha talents over beta to just mock the beta ones and to have sex with that girl and girls get their pleasures from those "so called" alphas and they expect alphas everywhere. So the root is men here not them,so we should abstain from this or else it would continue,no matter what it can't be ended
[–]Stamedeprime0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's why they are miserable and treated like crap and don't get no real poo poo like an Alpha man
[–]r1a1i1n0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The effects of mgtow would increase exponentially if at least half of the male population were on the same page in this regard. men would be on the A side of negotiations for once. Instead you have these simps whispering into some guys girlfriend "you deserve better" and "a girl like you deserves...". Without these weak guys bellying up females would probably go insane from a lack of attention and "emotional support". The amount of women scrambling to get a bunch of animals to keep them from being lonely proves mgtow is already working though. As mgtow spreads the effects will not just grow steadily, the effects will multiply as they will have fewer options for a man other than one that respects himself and is immune to female manipulation.
[–]beastmodeking0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
thirsty men/ white knights are worse than feminists
[–]Zuck79800 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I agree!
[–]KingDragoX0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I keep trying to tell men this. I just get called gay lol
[–]TheDevilsAdvokaat0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not really.Thirsty men are partly to blame; but greedy women are also to blame.
You can't really just assign all the blame to men.
Mate, that's what WOMEN do.
Don't fall into the same trap.
Let women be responsible for their own errors.
[–]fasterfind0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Human nature is a bitch.
[–]PerfectNemesis0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Simp thirst is disgusting.
[–]gadabout130 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
say it LOUDER!!!
[–]easternhermit0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
hear , hear.
[–]Per_Horses60 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m one of these people and I’m happy I’ve decided to accept it for how bad it is. Thanks for this post. I learned
[+]Shitlordlogic222-10 points-9 points-8 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Does anyone else think these guys just probably watch too much porn. Or at least that’s contributing? I can’t imagine why so many guys are like this
[–]DarkNights2922 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I don’t watch porn at all or any of that. And I think like this. We’re “like this” because you women became shit
[–]Shitlordlogic2220 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m not a woman 😂 I’m just trying to have a discussion and I appreciate your input
And to clarify I’m asking why so many guys are beta simps, not why they are frustrated with women
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