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[–]CiceroVoltaire322 points323 points324 points 7 years ago (45 children) | Copy Link
My first reaction was, good, but I thought about it more. It's difficult to give these guys any sympathy, as they are on the frontlines against things like mgtow.
This guy is young, he likely never saw a man acting or being anything but a mangina. Any inherent male behavior was probably punished ruthlessly by his feminist single mother who hates men, including her own male offspring. This guy had no chance in life.
Imagine how many more boys and young men are enduring this as you read this.
Feminists are doing what they promised they'd do, kill men. They killed this guy with their poison, their venom from the moment of conception. And true to form, they could not complete the murder without the help of man, this young man took his own life because of feminism.
He is a victim of feminism. One of many, countless boys and men who never had a real chance to live as boys or grow to be men.
I will look at these stories from a different perspective from now on
[–]Infinitewisdom1984122 points123 points124 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You took my thoughts right out of my head. I wanted to look at this boy with disgust, especially the fucking choker around his neck, but then I immediately saw a boy, guided by a worthless single mother who never had a chance in this world, deprived of any masculinity.
And no one will bat an eye when the girl is given 0 punishment after "retracting" the statement.
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[–]RedRageXXI7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He never got to figure out how strong he’d be by the time he was like 25 or 30. Shitty.
[–]Sutrule6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No such thing as "today's feminism". The first wave was irrefutably the most powerful and worst wave of feminism, and it's the first two that allowed the 'finishing blow' of third wave feminism we're seeing today against our societies.
[–]RedRageXXI-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Male feminist lol
[–]Pharan65 points66 points67 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Man I wanted to get angry at this comment... but it's tough to disregard.
Even when those incel tears retards come brigading at our door... they're still our brothers who've been brainwashed with this shit their entire lives.
Manipulated and destroyed in the exact same way as the men who get divorce raped.
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[–]Sir_manalot25 points26 points27 points 7 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
Think about it.
The difference between him and you is that you were raised better.
That is all.
Society has failed him.
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[–]TryDoingSomethingNew3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Absolutely, and it's one reason I look forward to leaving the United States. The level of cuckery and the increasing lack of masculinity is disgusting. I've about had enough at this point.
Boys are done irreparable harm from a young age that destroys their future and chance for a relatively healthy, happy life.
[–]BreakingNexiting 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Europe is getting worse. Average guy there is becoming increasingly feminine. It’s like everyone is bisexual, wears capri pans, and talks about how wonderful Communism is. Now some Asian countries are still pretty traditional but locals tend to have an innate dislike for foreigners. Still Tokyo was awesome!!
South America has some pretty great places like Argentina & Uruguay. Locals are friendly, and standard of living is relatively high. It’s a shame Australia is becoming the land of cuckery because I’ve always wanted to visit. Same with New Zealand.
[–]RandomKonong-2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Man, I wish everyone was raised in your culture. Then we wouldn't have this bullshit 3rd wave feminism, false accusations. Probably thots would still exist in some capacity, but at least there would be no single mothers to put up with.
[–]NotMyWomen2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago* (10 children) | Copy Link
It has absolutely nothing to do with “society”.
He made choices, a whole slew of bad ones. And he made those choices in a pathetic and cowardly way to garner favor with as many females as possible; it is a disgusting and immoral reproductive strategy, because innocent and good men get caught within the web of his insidious and parasitical scheming.
We live in the information age; he undoubtedly spent every waking minute on his smartphone, he could have easily googled the arguments or the statistics.
Nobody forced him to do anything.
He was evil - he helped to strengthen the same mechanism that was ultimately used against him because he truly thought it would benefit him; that was his deal with the devil, and now he’s paying his dues.
“Society” is an arbitrary construct composed almost entirely of evil individuals, who are responsible and accountable for their own choices just like him, who are evil because of the choices that they choose to make.
So blaming “society” when he himself makes up that society is not only feminized, it’s circular logic.
I still despise him.
[–]BreakingNexiting 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You know what’s also an arbitrary construct? Good & Evil.
You can call him Evil but you actually have no idea what the details of his story may be other than self identifying as a feminist. Look, as much as I want to despise the guy at his age I was still dating single moms here & there and likely had my heart broken more than once. Sure, I would have never killed myself over a dame but he obviously has other mental issues. Like others have pointed out we don’t have many details about him but I think it’s likely he lacked a positive male role model in his life
Regardless it’s ludicrous to call the guy Evil. Anything Evil has to be closer to the root cause, and this guy’s barely a symptom of our sick gynocentric society.
[–]NotMyWomen4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
“Good and evil” are not arbitrary constructs.
“Good”, i.e, morality, requires universality to exist.
Therefore it can’t be “constructed”.
I don’t give a fuck about the details of his story; I know the details of my story, and I understand the concept of free will.
It makes zero difference what any other moral agent “did to him”, he is responsible for making his choices regardless.
If that were true, the way I was treated by Blacks as a kid, I would be in the KKK, and the first Black I killed would have been excusable because I was consistently beaten and tortured by Blacks as a kid.
I never joined the Klan, and I have a friend who’s Black.
Those are choices that I made regardless of my childhood; regardless of the way Blacks at that time treated me.
I lived well below the poverty line as a kid, and now I make near 6-figures, with a multitude of investments.
I could have sat on my ass and cried about how I was “a victim of circumstance” like John Gacy, but I didn’t.
“If you’re born poor, it’s not your fault. If you die poor, it is your fault.”
You’re arguing a feminized viewpoint, I.e, sympathy for everyone and everything, and zero accountability, and therefore against every tenet the philosophy rests on.
And the pragmatic effects of your views are clearly made manifest in today’s world for all to see.
They have been made manifest in the forms of complete and utter failures.
[–]Doc_Sithicus2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Maybe he was everything that you accuse him of. Maybe he was a victim. To me he was a traitor, an enemy. I smiled when I've read about his death.
[–]Sir_manalot0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Good and evil are human inventions to rationalize away the fact that we are animals to satiate our irrational egos.
We are ultimately just animals that like playing god.
And we all just make the best choices to get what we want based on the current informatiom that we were taught and the habits that we have formed.
You unconditionally hate him and see him as evil for this reason. As to admit that he could possibly of been a byproduct of his environment would mean that you are not superior to others and that we are ultimately not as great as we wish to be.
As for free will that you mentioned in the other post, humans are an interpersonal species. The majority of our actions, values and beliefs are just the result of the environment we are in, our biology and the actions of those around us.
We juat try to place the responsibility and blame of things on the individual who suffers the consequences of something directly to selfishly absolve ourselves of responsibility.
As to admit that we have a part in something means that we are not as great as the godlike beings we pretend to be.
Perhaps as you grow older and wiser, you will understand what I mean.
Humans are weak and fragile, our egos and minds being the most weak and fragile of all.
[–]Agamand2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Great post but I want to chime in on your last sentence. Humans can be weak and fragile but they can equally be as tough as a brick. You have heard the stories.
[–]Sir_manalot1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
You are right, but to be tough we have to understand that we are also weak and fragile.
Only then can we fight against our weakness to go beyond what we are normally capable of.
Take fear, if you do not accept the fact that you are afraid and understand it, you will not be able to fight against it.
With more minor fears, this doesn't matter as much. But a crippling level fear? You need to understand and accept your fear to push beyond it.
[–]hkl83242 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
The majority of our actions, values and beliefs are just the result of the environment we are in, our biology and the actions of those around us.
Sorry, but so do the feminists and women.
You whole point of GTOW is meaningless if your logic is like that.
[–]Sir_manalot-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Mgtow is the best course of action in the current environment (and really, probably always the best course of action).
As for your other point, women are acting the way they are because of our environment, bilogy and how simps around them treat them.
They are just doing what is best for them and it has been working for there advantage so far.
The point isn't that they have no blame what so ever or that we have zero control over our lives, but that alot of things we experience and do is the result of our environment, biology, and another's actions.
It is putting responsibility on everyone who is responsible for a situation.
Take feminism. If simps didn't spoil women and rich men didn't want to double the supply of workers, feminism wouldn't exist.
Or soyboys. Whom are largely the fault of single motherhood and lack of positive male role models.
Or blue pilled men. Whom are just blind on women's nature and whom struggle to realize the truth because of male biology pushing them away from the truth on women's nature to keep them providing resources for women.
[–]hkl83241 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It is men nature to chase pussy. You are also blaming the wrong people.
You are blaming men for feminism.
[–]Sir_manalot-2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Have you read my other posta in this thread?
It is in women's nature to take advantage of men too.
Men and women are to blame.
[–]CiceroVoltaire14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
thanks. I asked myself why would this young man do this, what could drive him to a final, and permanent solution to his life? The answer was clear, and obvious, and it made me angry and sad. I know I can't save these guys but I understand them better, and I can forgive them because they really don't know what they're doing or why.
These guys are brainwashed, punished and victimized all their lives by feminist hatred; how can we expect them to be different than what they are: lost boys, never men.
[–]TheLastMgtow8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Worst thing that can happen to you as a man is die bluepilled. I feel sorry for these men. Im glad i endured for the day the redpill was out.
[–]JohnnySkidmarx6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This unfortunately could have happened to any boy, whether he agreed with feminists or not. This needs to stop. I am so glad I never had to deal with this crap growing up.
[–]Shnook82 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It would have been pretty terrible for this kid, though. He certainly doesn't look like someone many kids his age would tolerate (as much as we shouldn't judge a book by its cover, there's enough in the photo above for me to know we're not going to share any common interests), so after being trained to hate the Men's groups that would actually understand what he's going through, as soon as he was tarred by his lady love, he would have lost what friends he had in an instant. The joys of travelling in Feminist circles as a guy - you're only there as long as the women let you stay.
[–]BitcoinBoffin5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Comment of 2019 right there.
[–]SpaceCowboyBop3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Came here to be happy about the news, but you are right. If you teach a baby nothing but how to be a dog, it will grow up to be a dog.
[–]bman00012 points 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Thank you for this comment. I came here wanting to express contempt for the young man. But you're right, this poor boy never had a chance to understand reality for what it is, and that's just really fucking tragic. The contempt is much more appropriate for the adults who shaped his path.
[–]TempleOfIron 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He's literally the product of single motherhood. But nowadays even fathers are directionless with their children these day.
[–]Curious_Oogway0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I agree with you.
[–]no_gal_friend0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Abortion does not stop after birth for these feminists.
[–]suicideprince970 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank you for insightful comment. Hope your year is fantastic
[–]walrusescapades0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
yea, thought about it for a bit too, and the thing is, is this guy's whole identity must have been tied up to his image as a male feminist. He probably enjoyed being seen as one, and then this accusation comes along, and his whole public image, his whole identity is shattered. where is there left to go? also, get a good look at him. he tries to appear tough and serious. just a cover. underneath he was probably just scared and clueless like a lot of us who are bullshitted repeatedly throughout our lives.
[–]CiceroVoltaire0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I agree though I think his identity was corrupted and coerced from a very early age, it was never his own, he never had a chance to create and define his own identity. I could be wrong, but my guess is it was forced on him, likely by his single mother and her friends, family, orbiters, etc., when so many aspects are the antithesis of masculinity it's unnatural it had to be coerced, IMO.
I don't think he ever had a chance.
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One less simp in this world though... That is a good thing.
[–]CiceroVoltaire9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
true, but there are many more, where are they coming from and why? It's getting worse.
quite a few topics here about simps, cucks, manginas, soy boys, feminist men, and how bad it is, how it's getting worse, and that there are seemingly more and more of them every day.
I'm greedy, selfish and a Sadist, but I'm also logical and analytical due to my education and work of many decades. I find myself asking questions and assessing information, even if I really don't care or want to, sometimes it happens. By conscious choice I did the same kind of analysis about women which is what led me to going my own way a few years ago.
Can't save these guys from themselves, but I think I have a better understanding, which in turn adds more knowledge and adds reinforcement to my choices. Non serviam. FTW.
[–]BitcoinBoffin4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Women & men are different. It's absurd that anyone would think that both should employ the same life strategies to fulfil differing social & biological imperatives. Yet here we are in 2018 with governments everywhere using taxpayer funded incentives for 65-70% of boys to be raised away from an invested biological father. Obviously the 5x more men & boys killing themselves than females & dismal socioeconomic outcomes awaiting every boy born today across every single metric is a price feminism is more than willing to pay.
[–]XavierMalory2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Feminists want all men dead (be it physically dead or mentally dead inside).
[–]Sir_manalot7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Not really.
He didn't have to be a simp.
We are ultimately animals that mostly become what we are rasied to be. This is just the result of women having power to choose whom they mate, which is a result of dead men empowering women for pussy, which is a result of men being ignorant of women's true nature.
If he lasted five or so years, he would of woken up. He was on the verge, but without a man to guide him or a brother to help him, he never has the chance to live in the first place really.
I find it just a sad matter of circumstance really. This didn't have to happen, but humanity is just designed to worship women and keep men in the dark as much as possible.
[–]hkl83240 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
men being ignorant of women's true nature
No. The whole argument is that you dont believe in free will.
so men being ignorant of women's true nature is no men fault or women fault.
If you dont blame that men, you should not blame anyone also.
[–]Sir_manalot0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly.
Blame is misguided.
Women just follow there nature and men follow there own.
With the knowledge we acumulated, we should focus on fixing things and making things better.
Not on childish blame and hatred games, they never amount to changing anything positively anyway.
It all comes down to this, would you rather we make life better or punish those that made our lives worse?
Humans tend to want the latter, as we tend to behave like crabs in a bucket.
Also, we do have some degree of control in our lives, but we tend to overstate it due to our egos.
To make it look we are more amazing then we really are or to make others look worse then they really are.
[–]KeepIt100ForReal 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He simply did not know any better. He deserves some sympathy.
[–]DANYYC64 points65 points66 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
"Ironic... he could save others from the patriarchy - but not himself."
[–]Kenith-Keniff38 points39 points40 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's not a story the feminists would tell you.
[–]WaturTribe 18 points19 points20 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
DO IT!
Palpabletine
[–]mattmanoblot4207 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Is it possible to learn this power?
[–]BNKhoa6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not from a White Knight
[–]omen_tenebris2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Have you ever heard the story of chad thundercock, the wise?
[–]No_Thot_Control42 points43 points44 points 7 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link
Man what a fag. This is the future of men, fellas; a bunch of pussified, skinny-jean wearing faggots raised by a single mother, a revolving door of male suitors, Disney movies, and a diet of soy. And this is exactly what the media and the government wants, because these testosterone deficient soyboys are easy to control.
[–]ProfessionalVegan10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link
All large clinical trials have demonstrated no link between phytoestrogen in soy and lower testosterone, only a few small isolated studies have suggested a "possible" link. On the other hand, animal products, especially cow's milk, are loaded with mammalian estrogen which does have a significant impact.
This is why people who abstain from consuming animal products have been found to have on average 13% higher testosterone levels.
[–]ThirstySasquatch21 points22 points23 points 7 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
Let's be honest here, any arm-chair doctor can look up a study on pubmed and find something that supports their argument.
Every vegan man I've met has the typical soyboy cuck face, lanky and skinny and they just look miserable. I had a problem with man tits as a teen and then into my early 20's; know what got rid of them? Controlling and ultimately drastically limiting the amount of soy in my diet.
I gave vegetarian a go for several months and was very strict with it. Had a proper nutrition protocol and everything as I avidly workout. I ended up with erectile dysfunction as a young man which has never been a problem before and mentally felt like a little bitch. Sure, it's anecdotal, but I've heard similar experiences from other guys.
However, it's also worth noting, within a week or reintroducing meat into a well rounded diet, I had zero issues with getting an erection afterwards and my moods drastically improved.
[–]yungjonvoight1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
I’m currently having some issues with my overall appearance. I am by no means overweight but I feel I could reduce the excess fat on my stomach and chest. Any advice for diets or exercise that could help? I am 20 by the way. Great to hear that you overcame some of the issues I’m having. Happy new year!
[–]ThirstySasquatch3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Honestly, start counting calories. Download myfitnesspal and count EVERYTHING. You can't spot reduce fat so itll come off in troublesome areas last which is totally genetic.
For example, I hold fat in my lower back. Ive had abs and still loose in my lower back. Its the last to go and first to come back.
[–]yungjonvoight1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I’m 6’ 1” and 210 lbs and my goal is 180. Some trouble areas are my stomach, legs, and chest. I’ve heard that reducing carbs also helps with weight loss. I’ll be sure to download that app. Should I look into certain diets or foods?
[–]ThirstySasquatch0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
If youre 210 your maintenance should be around 3100 calories per day. Just subtract a few hundred off that for weight loss. Aim for 1-2 lbs of loss a week.
Trouble areas are irrelevant. You can't spot reduce; your body loses fat across its entirety and where it comes off first or the fastest is purely genetic.
Reducing carbs appears as fast weight loss but theres no real difference in long term weight loss between high, low or moderate carb intake. People think low carb works because you'll lose a bunch of weight fast. Most of this weight is purely water and glycogen. Carbs cause your body to retain these things. Spend one day eating carbs again and youll be back to square one.
Carbs aren't the devil. For bodybuilding, if my carbs are low my muscles will appear less full and more flat. When I intake carbs my vascularity increases as does my apparent muscle size. Carbs also help energy levels when working out.
It's all what works best for you. Eat a whole foods diet; aim for a gram of protein per kg of bodyweight and just eat good, wholesome food. It's pretty simple. Create a diet youll be able to adhere to for life as a good diet is a lifestyle change, not temporary.
Start with counting calories. People preach paleo, keto, high carb, etc etc but at their root, they work because they have a reduction in calories.
[–]yungjonvoight1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Thank you so much for the advice. I just downloaded the app and will be sure to make good use of it.
[–]ThirstySasquatch2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
No worries dude. A few things I did to help me eat less that might help you are....
-Use a smaller plate with meals. Sounds dumb but if you use a bigger plate, you psychologically want to put more food on it
-Brush your teeth. Also sounds dumb but food tastes like garbage after brushing. I brush early in the evening as I have a terrible habit of night time snacking and then I feel guilty if I eat after brushing
-prioritize healthy fats and protein. Theyre far more satiating than carbs. Yes carbs arent evil but carbs generally make you more hungry. So if you have a snack, have nuts, peanut butter, protein shake, etc.
-find healthy snacks that you like. I love candy and still eat it, but ive developed a more healthy relationship with it and only have it in moderation. So if I go to a movie, I also love movie popcorn. I limit myself to popcorn or candy...not both. Ill also bring healthy snacks lile Ill cut up two full bell peppers and snack on those or beef jerky.
-For me, I love superheroes and thats why I strive to be better athletically and physically so I put a superhero as my phone background. Every time I look at it, it keeps me from snacking on a big bag of chips or 2000 cals worth of candy haha.
-dont try to cut everything out at once. You wont do it and you will eventually fail and binge eat. I went through this and it sucks and kills your progress! Everything in moderation!
-I made small challenges to stay motivated. I would say, I want to do 5 chinups with a 45lb plate and I want to do it by (insert date), or I want to run a 4min kilometer or for this month I womt eat any candy. Write these goals down!!!
[–]Pharan0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Do you ever worry about simple carbs and sugars affecting prolactin levels and testosterone? I've read some articles on bodybuilder forums on that stuff but I'm not sure how much of it is real or if it's still brosciencey.
[–]ThirstySasquatch1 point 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Never have worried about it
[–]blississolitude2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Read The 4-Hour Body by Tim Ferriss. He lays out the slow-carb diet, which is essentially the ketogenic diet plus beans (which makes it much easier to stick to and therefore succeed). If you want to lose fat, you do that by eating better, not by working out. You want to gain muscle, you do that by exercising smart, not overdoing it.
[–]wwstewart1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I've done this. Worked for me pretty well (until I got lazy). Dropped about 60lbs in around 4 months.
[–]TheLastMgtow1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Try keto, especially if you have food cravings or addictions.
Try paleo, if you want an overall good, and complete diet, simply and easy to stick with.
Try whole food plant based, if you need to detox for a few weeks (dont do more than that).
Excluse gluten, soy, sugar.
Dont consume starches everyday. Go keto or few times per year. Dont consume high protein everyday.
[–]ProfessionalVegan1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
Anyone can make that argument for any subject they're uneducated about. I'm not even asking you to take my word for it, I'm providing evidence and studies conducted by experienced professionals by which you responded to with an anecdotal experience that goes against the generally accepted medical consensus. In regards to ED, doctors recommend against eating meat and consuming milk (which you were still consuming milk considering you were vegetarian).
Physical causes of ED include high blood pressure, high cholesterol or diabetes, and hormonal problems. ALL of which are heavily associated with consumption of animal products. It could also be caused by a vitamin deficiency as some people think they can drop animal products and just eat potato chips all day.
As for "every vegan you've ever met being lanky and skinny", I take it that you don't get out much. While vegans do have a slightly lower BMI on average, only vegans are on average within the healthy weight range in America. But I don't necessarily blame you. Only ~6% of the population in America, UK and Australia is vegan (which is actually a significant increase in the past decade), and despite the tired joke of vegans telling everyone they're vegan, many don't. That said, you've likely met vegans and you don't even know it.
I had a more fleshed out response but it's being hidden, likely for containing too many links.
[–]ThirstySasquatch5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Except I didn't consume milk...I haven't drank milk in years and my dairy consumption is fairly low.
The high blood pressure/cholesterol and diabetes is a complete and utter myth that originated from the china study which is frequently cherry picked for data amongst the vegan crowd, when in reality the whole study is filled with holes. The rest of the statistics that support these are mainly biased sources in favour of veganism.
And for every study that says these things, theres also a study that says the opposite. You somply cannot deny that. Once again I gave vegetarian a very strong shot, took the time to educate myself on it and read a ton of literature on it. It's incredibly inconclusive and theres a ton of contradictory evidence and studies for both sides.
You try to attempt and say my diet might have been void of a certain vitamin or something. Ill once again say that I educated myself as much as possible about this as bodybuilding, athletics and nutrition are all huge passions of mine. I didnt fill my diet with meat substitutes and ensured any possible deficiencies were covered.
As for the only population in America that is a healthy BMI are vegans is simply cherry picking. Americans are terribly unhealthy and are at the far end of a spectrum when it comes to diet. Veganism is at the other end as its just another extreme.
Compare a society with a relatively solid, and healthy diet and overall wellbeing. The Mediterranean area comes to mind. People in those countries are incredibly healthy...far beyond the average american and they regularly consume meats such as fish. Same goes for the countries in the adriatic.
Their lifestyle and diet in that part of the world has made them so healthy that it spawned their own fad diet.
Lets go to another extreme from veganism - the Inuit in Northern Canada. Or commonly known as Eskimos. They had essentially no access to any vegetables and sustained themselves off aninal products like seal, whale, fish and bear. Yet, despite this, they were considered incredibly healthy.
[–]ProfessionalVegan-2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I'm going to start off by pointing out that considering most people in the world currently consume animal products, so many people on this thread are going to be biased towards your response. You're also free to share studies that contradict what I've said thus far (studies that aren't funded by animal agriculture industries), otherwise your assertion that "there are studies that say the opposite", is senseless. It reminds me of this video.
Be honest with me. Where were you attaining your zinc from? Low zinc is commonly associated with ED. Unless you can point out what specific nutrient you're getting from meat that you weren't getting from a vegetarian diet, your claim is baseless. Besides, most of what I'm referring to isn't based on one or two studies, it's based on hundreds of studies and meta-analyses.
Here are a few examples; http://dresselstyn.com/JFP_06307_Article1.pdf https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2608221 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4245565/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3967195/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19562864 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4073139/pdf/nutrients-06-02131.pdf http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24523914 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23169929 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19351712 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25198208 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9989963 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1312295/ http://www.bmj.com/content/349/bmj.g6015 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1790799/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17299475 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9637947 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24256379 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22534056 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22968891 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2374537/pdf/83-6691152a.pdf http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3573976 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2392062? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5367008/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21076725 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26062990 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23643053 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26739035 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1639534 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21930800
The reason meat causes diabetes is because of the IGF-1 growth factor in animal protein, which not only causes diabetes, but also promotes cancer growth. To suggest that this is a myth is incredibly irresponsible and harmful.
Here's a recent meta-analysis demonstrating that vegans have much lower BP overall. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6047330/
As for Eskimos, that's a myth. They actually had much higher rates of heart disease and other diseases; https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12535749 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26239003 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2981096/
[–]ThirstySasquatch3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I should mention Im in no way intending to be hostile...I really appreciate debates over nutrition like this!
Im currently out, but when im back Ill fire up some sources.
And I also should mention that I do intend to try vegetarian again in the future, possibly pescatarian. I also got my zince from various legumes, nuts and oatmeal.
Once again, I really do appreciate the debate!
[–]ProfessionalVegan2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hey, me neither, man. I hope I'm not coming off as a dick, I just don't really know any other way to voice my thoughts other than to be straight-forward. Some people are not completely honest about this subject so I have to be a bit cautious of that, but I do believe this is a topic you are also passionate about.
Considering you were attaining enough zinc, as for why a vegetarian diet caused your ED, I'm at a loss. This isn't something that's common as far as I'm aware and I'm failing to find any information regarding it.
[–]RPDunkleBomb1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
TL;DR don't eat shit if it makes you feel like shit, but mostly a balanced/normal diet ain't gonna make you go full soyboy or commit suicide.
[–]ProfessionalVegan-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
TL;DR the using the term "soyboy" is inherently ignorant.
Considering a majority of the population is dying off from heart disease, as well as cancer, diabetes, and other obesity related diseases linked to eating the "standard balanced" diet, I'd say people are offing themselves. They just decide to be oblivious to it because let's be honest, a majority of the population doesn't give a shit about their health or objective facts that contradict their pleasures and conveniences.
[–]JohnnySkidmarx0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not a revolving door a suitors. A revolving door of pump-and-dumpers.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Apparently they didn't think this through...
If all Men get pussified like that, who is supposed to do all the dirty/hard jobs?
[–]throw_7 -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hey now, don't be dragging Disney movies into this. Nothing wrong with Disney movies. Fiction is fiction. People that don't know fiction is fiction are not smart people to begin with.
[–]Shittybillyall15 points16 points17 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Male feminists are always supercucks and often end up raping or sexual assualting women. Just ask PM Trudeau
[–]carninja685 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Trudeau definitely did not get with his wife. He’s a total Cuck. Let step dad like step son.
[–]fuckingjakedebrusk 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I see what you did there
[–]sam123cherif6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
One less idiot on this earth I guess
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I wonder if he learned anything
[–]burns2317 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Bet he wont do that again...
"That was wrong. Funny...but wrong."
[–]RiverSound 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Whenever I'm in public, I always see these manginas hanging around and being emotional tampons to these loud mouthed, fat assed, ugly, blue haired cunts.
It's like they're playing around with a pitbull with a steak tied around their neck.
Go MGTOW or die! It's their choice.
[–]Fantoche_Dreemurr6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The simps believe that by attacking other men and groveling to the vaginas, they'll get laid. In truth, it just makes them easier targets.
[–]AntiAbleism3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Karma.
[–]Combatmedic2-473 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I should feel sad but I don’t.
[–]chadbhava1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Teh numale and teh snek
[–]Puig_Destroyer3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well, he was a male feminist so how false was the claim?
[–]TObestcityinworld3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
There seems to be a few girls and white knights on Twitter, including his own female 1st cousin, that are trying to femsplain saying he didn't kill himself because of his best friend lying about him being a sexual abuser. That he was already depressed and had attempted suicide in the past.
That only makes it much, much worse because knowing his fragility his best friend still falsely accused him of abusing a minor.
[–]laughingembarks2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I wish I could pity him.
[–]casra8883 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Everytime I hear "male feminist" I know he's just a wolf in sheeps clothing. A cowardly rapist.
[–]that_nast2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Gotta thin the herd somehow
[–]skippydammit2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It remains the 'self-cleaning oven' concept whereby things take care of themselves...just sayin'
[–]verynormalsimple2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Natural Selection at its finest
[–]maruthescruffydog2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No sympathy as he helped fan the fire and hot burned by the flames
[–]ETKDoom2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Very hard to feel sorry for these kinds of people.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
-1... This one thought he would get a nutpass.
[–]mgtowmuller777-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This cuck is better off dead fellas!
[–]bfte21 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Finally.
[–]NicElTaco1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He could accuse others, but he couldn’t accuse himself
[–]smells-like-updog241 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
💀💀💀😂
[–]JohnOrange21121 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Evolution removes unworthy genes from the pool whether we like it or not.
[–]TrojanPiece1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Loser.
[–]Atton_Risk1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Moral of the story even the male feminsts get the knife.
[–]rigoexe1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just a taste of what’s in store for the rest of the useful idiots bolstering feminist bullshit. That goes for the cultural marxists too.
[–]S0C10P9TH 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A male feminist died? Please hold my coffee for a minute while I have a lil cry will you?
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
[–]Enlightenedman1988 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Another victim of feminism, sad.
[–]meerita0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This mangina was from my country: Argentina. Basically, he was pro feminist, and in middle of a protest for the movement #niunamenos (not one [woman] less) he was accused by one of his best friends. They were reading in public names of people that probably did something wrong to women, like abusing, verbal harassment, rape, etc. His name was readed at the scenario, and instantly all the people went to him. He ran to his house and killed himself even after the friend apologies in all social networks. After a few days he took his life.
[–]DemetrioPerez 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Link to the article please
[–]killerB93 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
https://www.pluralist.com/posts/2242-male-feminist-kills-himself-after-girl-he-loves-falsely-accuses-him-of-sexual-abuse-at-women-s-march
[–]GizmoRazaar0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It was interesting to notice the language on the bottom, as I’m currently studying and learning Hebrew. Just a fun surprise. Also, Happy New Year Mgtow, and, as is written in Hebrew, ״שלום!״
[–]death-loves-time0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
?MGTOW אחי יש הרבה בארץ
זה חזק שם?
[–]killerB93 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
לא כול כך אבל יש קצת פעילות
מה שבטוח להתחתן בישראל זה התאבדות
[–]death-loves-time0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
חחחחח כמו כאן כמו שם ,אולי בגלל שהצבא כבר דופקת אותחה שתהיה בריא
Poor bastard.
[–]memelord360420 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And nothing of value was lost
[+][deleted] 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]LuvMeTendieLuvMeTrue1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Simps and Chads are basically the front lines. MGTOWs walk away from the battle
[–]fuckyouredditx20 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good, even if slowly, they WILL learn, a woman cannot hide her true nature for long.
[–]SenpaiSama10 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Its cannibalism at its finest
[–]tejking0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well another one bites the dust
[–]Spankz870 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Realy??? Lmao!!!! That ll teach him xD
[–]balancedben 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is good news. He's a traitor to his gender and paid the price for it. ☺
[–]MarketWatcher94560 points 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Poetic justice.
[–]Toshiba1point0-3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
One thing I would like to stess is that there has to be a lot more to this story than a simple headline and I seriously doubt that it is strictly a feminist issue at work for someone to kill themselves over. This is an identity crisis combined with betrayal and mental illness from someone looking for acceptance which never existed. People do this when they loose their jobs, their relationships, a fraternity pledge, even after being cyber bullied on social media. All it really means is this person had no personal structure so when their world went away, they had nothing to fall back on. Tragic but not unrelatable to other cases of identity disorders.
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