Philosophy: the truth is dry and boring

DocHolliday226 · 2016-09-26T10:55:19+00:00

Well put, indeed. It's kind of those situations where there it's no great cosmic chess game. We, like all life on this planet, exist for our brief moment and like a candle flame, once extinguished, are no more.

I find it wonderfully liberating. In the end, just do what makes you happy and to hell with the rest.

aanarchist · 2016-09-26T10:34:34+00:00

Right they refrained boredom as clinical depression and started prescribing pills for you like a fucking junkie.

SammyMac19 · 2016-09-26T13:29:37+00:00

Jesus Christ we need more posts like this one. Well done!

ArthurVonL · 2016-09-26T15:00:45+00:00

Lately I have been thinking that most of the people out there create their own meaning in life, it could be an objective, a mission, a belief. Anything that will push them to raise from that couch and do something else instead of being entertained and brainwashed by machines designed to keep people in line. Life is interesting(if you want it to be), even without a meaning and a purpose, the universe is a chaotic place, but it is interesting. Exploring is interesting, understanding things is interesting. No one knows what is behind that door, but at the same time no one knows everything that is in the room aswell, because the room never ends.

So even if the truths about society, women, life etc. are hard pills to swallow and will probably be rejected by blind and fearful people, do not get complacent, there is still a lot to study and understand, being a junkie on any drug or a free man is mainly up to you.

2016-09-26T16:13:14+00:00

True or not, the West is filled with this type of nihlistic hedonism. Beliefs have consequences wether true or not.

strudel- · 2016-09-26T18:02:37+00:00

Not a big fan of people passing on their belief as fact. I respect nihilism if that's your thing, but to say that this is all there is in a factual manner is arrogant.

Willkuer_ · 2016-09-26T18:20:00+00:00

The fuck is this high school philosophy? This is the random shit every 15 year old goes through. And then it gets gold? I really thought this is a sub for men...

Strudel_Throw_away · 2016-09-26T15:52:40+00:00

Excellent post.

"Everything is a drug." -- you put into words what I have been thinking for a while. Everybody talks about known chemical drug abuse; but other forms of drug abuse are largely accepted or ignored.

Food - (Sugar and carbs - All humans maybe addicted to it) Passive entertainment - (Movies, TV , Internet (the dumb kind) etc) Narcissism - (Addicted to yourself. Might be the most potent) Spectator sports - ( as a passive spectator; addiction to sense of victory and accomplishment through someone else) Much more...

Now I am acutely conscious of indulgence whenever I am doing it. Like being lazy watching TV and eating a bag of chips when I could be spending that time productively. We can only tackle big problems one step at time.

The only thing worth doing is leaving behind something for the advancement of human beings as a species. One doesn't even have to be rewarded, acknowledged or even remembered for it. Eventually someone will realize the magnitude of the contribution and quietly acknowledge.

Case in point: American rocket scientist Dr.Goddard: Father of modern rocket science, but largely ridiculed during his time and vilified. Kind of like Galileo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_H._Goddard http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/about/history/dr_goddard.html

The society is getting dumber, because the morons are multiplying, getting political power while the quietly brilliant ones have become recluse and marginalized.

They could be extinct soon. Followed by the species itself.

PipBoyTInkerer · 2016-09-26T18:15:52+00:00

"Life is pain. Anyone who says otherwise is selling something"

-Wesley, Princess Bride

prosgorandom · 2016-09-26T19:47:00+00:00

I couldn't disagree more. I could endlessly write about this subject but to sum it up, we have absolutely no idea about anything in this world or what comes after. The second you think you have it all figured out is the second your learning comes to a complete halt.

With all our new knowledge and easily accessable philosophy ideas most people tend to forget history, and how everyone before us thought they had it figured out. Every last one of them dead wrong..

Myfingersdontwork · 2016-09-26T11:05:53+00:00

You should read some Schopenhauer. My favourite quote of his (paraphrased) is 'Life is something which never should have occurred'. How is that for pessimistic! lol
Once you realise life has no meaning and is ultimately pointless and once you get past the 'oh fuck' phase it is extremely liberating.

strudel- · 2016-09-26T12:36:12+00:00

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JStheHammer · 2016-09-26T14:37:51+00:00

The only purpose we have is to pass our gene's on to the next generation. Evolution, biology, etc.

Anything else is just philosophy.

blue_magoo_62 · 2016-09-27T00:54:26+00:00

I work with a muslim man, he was born in Pakistan and was brought up Muslim. he's a good dude but has a habit of often saying "you're a good guy, yknow, you should read up on Islam. there are so many white british muslims. it will really answer all your questions I promise you.."

this goes back and forth for weeks now and I am always respectful to his beliefs and we dont argue who is right or wrong. but I recently found the perfect response that finally stumped him and allowed me to express myself clearly. I said: "knowledge is a fine thing but I dont have any questions I need answering"

Klimthourglass · 2016-09-27T05:44:09+00:00

I kind of disagree. I think the truth is magical. We can do whatever we want here, and there are almost no rules. We don't know what happens when we die but so what? You only fear it if you aren't living the way you want right now. I'm OK with there being no meaning or simply not knowing if there is one. I've always found the idea of purpose and meaning depressing because people always said life was better if you find them. But I think those people were Charlatans. I became happy when I dispensed with ideas of purpose and meaning and simply started doing things that I was interested in, whether valued by others or not.

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Hilarious_Haplogroup · 2016-09-26T17:03:04+00:00

Life is the meaning of life. Life is the purpose of life. We live in order to live. When someone asks "what is the meaning of life?" they are presupposing the existence of an entity exterior to life (i.e. God) that is separate from life giving life its meaning. You can properly restate this question as "What is the meaning of my life?" or "What is the meaning of your life?". Things have meaning because you decide that they have meaning. This is enough.

BooDoug · 2016-09-26T17:31:57+00:00

When you took the red pill, you cannot come back to the blue pill room.

Pepe_Joe · 2016-09-26T12:42:18+00:00

Life is not meaningless.

Life is a constant effort to become, either good or evil.

Only the tepid, the cowards, the lukewarm (those who preach the good ol' "I dont hurt anybody" sermon) find no use for this life.

Look into yourself, dig deep, and find that spark which should make you happy.

There are gurus and wise men, mystics and the like. They didnt just find a way to make money. Most mystics and masters are men. Read about them.

cheaperautoinsurance · 2016-09-26T14:27:48+00:00

Anyone who claims they know what happens after death, is lying to you.

I'm here to tell you what happens after death. <clap, clap, clap> You cease to exist. Your brain, which encompasses 100% of you, is dead and gone. Your existence is over. You won't be coming back or waking up in some other place.

Glad to help with this one ;) The rest of your post is ok. You have to find your own truth not because there is no truth, but because the truth is that we are an evolved species stuck on a rock in space with no real prospects of going anywhere. Time and space is just too vast. We are effectively alone forever.

PipBoyTInkerer · 2016-09-26T17:57:10+00:00

Those poor devils in the trenches in WW1. Their description of life there, "Boredom, replaced by moments of utter terror". But the idea of terror probably relieved the boredom.

RXRob · 2016-09-26T18:10:20+00:00

And taking that on board, my purpose is to enjoy my time here

whisky1111 · 2016-09-26T21:28:34+00:00

I'm a Nihilist and I approve this message.

SadCoco · 2016-09-26T11:03:55+00:00

Well I'm still curious what happens when you go through that door, it kind of gives me peace - that I don't have to race anybody, just do what I want, because one day I will have to go through the door.

RedPillPerspective · 2016-09-26T11:41:30+00:00

The only point of life is to perpetuate itself. That's all any living thing is, a group of cells co-operating for survival. The only way they can survive long term is to reproduce. Beyond that there is nothing.

Here is the thing though. When you go back far enough in time, we all come from basically the same place / genetic origin anyway, even animals. Don't you find it strange that humans have 2 arms, 2 legs, a heart, a liver, kidneys etc etc. as do cats, dogs and a heap of other animals. This makes perpetuating yourself somewhat pointless as your genes are already doing that as a result of other organisms breeding. Just because you don't create any humans with 50% of your genes doesn't mean there aren't humans around with 5% of your genes, or 2%, or less. Over time your genetic material is watered down anyway, from 50% in your kids, to 25% in grandkids, 12.5% in great grandkids and so on. Makes the only point to life itself somewhat pointless.

gsharm · 2016-09-26T17:09:37+00:00

Point being, no one wants to face the truth, and that is: there is no meaning, no rule, in life. There is no right or wrong way to live.

Says who?

Federkiel · 2016-09-26T18:50:00+00:00

Love it ^{^.} The Reality without dazzlement, but without consciousness or ego knowbody would even care. And when you´re dead there is nobody who would give a shit.

Do you know Karl Renz/Emil Cioran/UG Krishnamurti? They represent the same statements.

roughback · 2016-09-26T19:40:58+00:00

I totally agree with you, all around the world people are doing horrible things to each other in the name of something or other and they will live out the remainder of their lives thinking they did good. No one will ever stop them, no giant jesus foot will stomp them into dust, no bolt of holy fire will incinerate them.

Life is what you make it, same as for a teacher in NJ as for a holy warrior who joins ISIL. I recently had to find my purpose again, and when I did i felt better about going to work in a cubicle every day for 20 years.

Legendoftheday · 2016-09-26T20:37:12+00:00

Thank You. Past few days I've been thinking about this topic and each time I've tried to deny it, It's a weird sorta murky-warm feeling when you grasp the meaninglessness of life then you come to the conclusion that "Who cares?".

I want to enjoy what I have and work for what I want, it's part of the reason I found mgtow. So sincerely thanks to all effort put into this community.

solitaryemmy · 2016-09-27T06:26:02+00:00

Find your 'drug' and OD on it. Hopefully it's something productive. I mean it's nice to just play video games and OD on it if you don't have to work etc. But if we can get paid for doing something we like or make just enough to do what we like, that's great already.

kjakeb · 2016-09-27T18:04:47+00:00

"Serve your country" socialist propaganda

literally what? socialism is opposed ideas of nation states and "country"

Astonford · 2016-09-27T18:10:18+00:00

"Nothing is true, everything is permitted."

comptejete · 2016-09-26T14:09:52+00:00

I read Viktor Frankl's "Man's Search for Meaning" at a young age, what my adolescent mind condensed it to was "Life has no meaning other than the meaning you give it". Nothing is fundamental, you have this amazing gift of being able to make it for yourself. It's unfortunate that this is a depressing thought for some people.

For the meaning of life differs from man to man, from day to day and from hour to hour. What matters, therefore, is not the meaning of life in general but rather the specific meaning of a person's life at a given moment.

strudel- · 2016-09-26T17:55:54+00:00

Life is centred on the results of a stable system/environment. I think it is natural to seek a stable prosperity, and that would be life's meaning. You decide how you fit to what is available in your environment.

edwardkane3000 · 2016-09-26T19:58:30+00:00

Existential though can be highly corrosive if you hav a weak constitution or it could be very constructive once you realize there is no (s)poon, then the as deepak chopra would say the universe open for you and you realize the only way up or forward is going you're own way.

Datson_Horrenbrand · 2016-09-26T20:39:20+00:00

if someone wants to escape reality it means he didn't realize it's beauty yet.

Smitty6 · 2016-09-26T22:25:59+00:00

I would agree for the most part. We dont know why were here, what thw purpose of it all is and really none that matters imo. However I have my own beliefs on these things and whether they are right or not doesnt really matter either. What does matter i think is that you think for yourself and that you learn from your decisions. Its kind of like a game where you get to grow and learn. Get to new levels. Whether we pass on or not isnt something we should concern ourselves with. Focus on now and what you do with yourself. Dont worry about what others think you should do. Dont let others live your life for you. This is how you get taken advantage over. Then you wake up one day wishing your life were different.

I-am-the-lul · 2016-09-26T22:26:15+00:00

Even if you understand that life has no meaning beyond what you assign it, in a healthy mind, your psychological defence mechanisms buffer you from the full force of that terrible truth, when you become clinically depressed, those defence mechanisms are impaired or worse fail, leading you to misery and possibly even suicide.

rahl_r · 2016-09-27T01:15:02+00:00

Everything is a distraction from one fact and one fact only: life is meaningless.

Damn! Homie, that's cold!

What about logotherapy?

Raiden627 · 2016-09-27T05:07:29+00:00

I ran into this today where I was a bit anxious after leaving my phone at home and going to a diner by myself - I consciously caught myself worrying about what other people must think of me, how bored I was just people watching as everyone was engaged in their own conversations. I think people have a true fear of boredom. They don't know how to cope with it. They feel like they need to be doing something 100% of the time or they're a failure. A lot of times it costs money to do those things so you're trading your time at work for some enjoyment elsewhere in one perpetual cycle. It's a weird place to be for a lot of people.

onepill_twopill · 2016-09-27T08:38:26+00:00

Alright then, I understand what you're thinking, but let me ask you why you assert this to be true? What is your argument for nothing but the physical to exist?

crisprcas9 · 2016-09-27T10:35:39+00:00

There is no door.

oneofthefewproliving · 2016-09-27T17:31:09+00:00

Edgemaster 14

VPAristotle · 2016-09-30T00:13:31+00:00

Mgtow is correct, but nihilism has no business being here.

The purpose of your life is to enjoy it. Start by reading Ayn Rand, it will help.

Pely777 · 2016-10-07T11:39:13+00:00

In nature the whole purpose is about survival but we dont live within such a natural environment anymore.

Title	Philosophy: the truth is dry and boring
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Date	September 26, 2016 10:26 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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