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[–]TofuandBiscuits 165 points166 points167 points 7 years ago (34 children) | Copy Link
Some of the comments are fucked up.
"He’s still your child, genetically or otherwise. It might be worth seeking thoughts from adoptive parents or those who used donor gametes. You will always be his daddy, because that’s about love, not DNA."
If the kid isn't mine, I don't want him. Period.
[–]PorkBomber87 points88 points89 points 7 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Society cucking and dropping all the responsibility on men as usual.
[–]JJ331411 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
She and her brother should be executed for incest (if ironclad proof was available), but in the West we have the consenting adults standard of sexual morality--as opposed to punishing people for sleeping with a person in the wrong category (married woman, brother/sister, even outside of marriage period). Most men buy into this, one degree or the other, including ultimately many redpilled men. This is partly due to the fact that the alternate sexual morality is found in the Bible, which is increasingly rejected, but also because it's counterintuitive how maintaining the consenting adults standard can be so destructive to men in particular. It's not obvious, but it results in the pussy pass being granted left and right to women, often at the expense of a given man, because they have an easier time soliciting sex, and it results in needless abortions, out of wedlock births (with all the social pathologies--especially for men raised by single mothers), and adultery/family disruption (with men paying the price in family court).
[–]goooglercooler 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I'm not defending this, but, you do realize, we're ALL by-products of incest right? it's actually impossible we're not all related within around 10 or so generations, Sure, we're not all "Directly" related, but we all come from the same common ancestor that is only around 40 generations old
Just remember, whenever you fuck some random chick, she is related to you, she's just your great cousin x10 or so. Still related. I know, it's a hard truth to swallow, but this is just how nature is.
https://phys.org/news/2013-08-dna-earth.html
[–]JJ33141 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s definitely an interesting question how far you draw the line, and different cultures—including ones that punish incest—may none the less draw different lines in the sand.
It’s interesting to speculate how much 1st degree relative incest was actually “necessary” for the advancement of human society—I imagine not much beyond the dawn of humanity, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen in significant numbers after that point.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Not sure where this moral faggotry came from. Incest isn't bad, it's having kids through incest that is dangerous. If there was a way to fix the genetic lining for the kids, so that they wouldn't get deformities, degenerative sickness, then it would be A-OK. I'm sorry this bothers you, really, but wishing for the death of people who commit incest is not as ethically air tight as you think it is.
[–]JJ33141 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
We’ll agree to disagree. My perspective is at least as valid as that of a moral nihilist, as it all devolves down to subjective impressions, and power dynamics.
If moral absolutes didn’t exist, I would then argue that I believe people who engage in incest should be killed by the courts, finding my point of view more valid then yours simply because I hold it. No sophistry about “fixing genetic linings” needed. Easy peezy.
For the record I have no interest in killing anyone. This is a passive wish that courts of law would criminalize extreme acts of sexual immorality, such as incest. I’m simply happy to ridicule and socially marginalize such degenerates to the best of my ability. There are far bigger problems in society, and in the sexual arena, than incest, that are eroding it at its foundation.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, there are bigger issues, like women having all the sexual power. They should have none. It should be an individual thing. I guess it shouldn't surprise me that at least some people think their ideas and experiences are divine in nature. I've seen a bigger picture however, and what we hold as truths are small and protected by a lack of enemies. What isn't has evolved to be effective at keeping us alive, nothing more. Reality is terrifying once you go out of the bubble, and incest is a non issue.
[–]NotMyWomen0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It is interesting to think about; surely there have been brothers and sisters separated at birth who never saw each other, and then ran into each other later on down the line.
If you fuck some slut that you meet, and come to find out it’s really your sister, it’s kind of like, what do you do?
[–]JJ33140 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You dime her out to your parents for being a straight up hoe.
[–]its_meKnightSwolaire23 points24 points25 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Seriously— no, dNA will be détermining my love
[–]squidracer 17 points18 points19 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Single moms love repeating this shit. Funny how i only hear it coming from single moms 🤔
[–]realChebz5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And only towards men. If the dude loses his job, not a peep out of them about love.
[–]febreezing_hobos9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I was adopted by 2 good parents at birth. That's WAY different than infidelity causing paternity questions. Especially when incest in involved.
[–]TofuandBiscuits 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's a choice your parents made and I'm happy for you.
[–]cobaltcolander6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I was adopted by 2 good parents at birth. That's WAY different than infidelity causing paternity questions.
I wouldn't be surprised if, on average, adopted kids have a better childhood than other kids: it takes serious commitment to be adoptive parents.
[–]contraterrene1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Your adoptive parents really wanted and loved you, that must be a tremendous feeling.
[–]Tom_bork 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
kek so as long as you say you love someone you can claim them? awesome
[–]galvanized_penguin6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link
Just out of curiosity, if you had a kid for several years, say 6, then you find out that genetically they are not your son or daughter, how would you react?
I'm genuinely curious, not critical of what you've said. For what it's worth, I don't believe in these apparent laws that state because you've been the parent for X amount of time, it no longer matters about DNA.
Edit: anyone else fancy answering my question on this?
[–]cobaltcolander0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's an interesting question, I'll say this much.
[+]TofuandBiscuits -6 points-5 points-4 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Your question makes no sense to me because it presumes I've been careless enough to sleep with strange women or for that matter co-habitate or marry one, which is precisely the antithesis of this sub's basic tenets.
Even if artificial wombs were a viable option, I'm not so cruel as to bring a child crafted from my DNA or not into this corrupt gynocentric world, which views each life as pawns for bureaucratic systems beyond our control.
You're better off asking that question to someone who's been father, because I'm certainly never going to be one.
[–]galvanized_penguin3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
This is a hypothetical question and you know full well there are men of many different mindsets and situations frequenting this sub.
[–]TofuandBiscuits -5 points-4 points-3 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You know I find it very interesting that two accounts using both verbs and animals as part of their username in the exact same order are asking the exact same question using different but similar false dilemmas to justify their cases.
Here's a hint, be a bit more clever about your alternate accounts, as you're extremely transparent. As for your hypothetical question refer to above.
Not my DNA, not my problem.
[–]galvanized_penguin3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Swing and a miss. Just the one account here dude, no need to behave like this.
Edit: additionally I was just trying to expand the conversation. If you can't or won't respond constructively just don't respond at all.
[–]d4ng3rz0n31 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Isnt galvanized an adjective?
[–]Beyond_Radar0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is the pitfall of the fatherhood defined by culture.
[–]modern_rabbit-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Your brother dies and his wife moves to Argentina with the gardener. His son is 8.
"Eh, give him to the state."
[–]TofuandBiscuits -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Well that's a dilemma I'm never going to have since I have no siblings.
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[–]TofuandBiscuits 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My good sir, I'm insane, not paranoid!
[–]MenGoingTOWin57 points58 points59 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
This can't be real.... Can it? :(
[–]XFinalPhantom35 points36 points37 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Im not suprised anymore about a lot if incidents anymore. Except that one time this lady grabbed her daughter by the leg and hit a woman with her. Literally...like a baseball bat. Like probably 2 years old
[–]MenGoingTOWin14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
two for one!
[–]HPLoveshack0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I remember a genetic study that was conducted once on, I think, a few hundred Danish. Something like 8% of men were raising children that weren't their own without knowing it.
Now I doubt they were products of incest, but still pretty fucked up.
[–]RunawayGrain40 points41 points42 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
All kinds of WTF here. What happens if DNA says the kid isn't his, and it is the brothers? Could he throw her under the bus for incest and get custody of the kid? How fast will she #metoo the brother? Not to mention whether he gets stuck with support payments for the kid as the presumptive dad. Were the brother and sister raised together, or separately?
[–]ThePlague28 points29 points30 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Why would he want the kid if it's her brother's? It would be an abomination.
[–]Chill-BL10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
maybe he doesn't, but depending on where you live, chances are you are father by law (not nature). therefore fuck your rights as an individual you have to pay for the kid.
[–]ThePlague10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's true, just another of the very many reasons for a man never to get married.
[–]misandrists_hate_him1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
He should get a paternity test to know if he is on the hook for this one or not, but there's never any fighting over another man's spawn, why would you even do that?
And if it's not hers, he definitely should report to child services that he suspects the brother is the father, that kid is going to need some help and the mother isn't going to provide it.
[–]RunawayGrain1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
why would you even do that?
It's called presumptive fatherhood. Here in the states in many areas if the kid is born while you are married you are presumed to be the father automatically. It'd be monumentally cheaper to keep the kid rather than having to shell out child support to her every month.
[–]misandrists_hate_him0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Presumed father refers to an individual whom the law presumes, until shown otherwise, to be the legal father of a child
So if you do nothing you're presumed to be the father. Here in the US, in this day and age, it's incredibly easy and cheap to get a paternity test to prove otherwise, assuming you really aren't the father.
It'd be monumentally cheaper to keep the kid rather than having to shell out child support to her every month.
And retarded cheap to get a test and not have to support the retarded kid. It might even cost you nothing if court ordered and you're found to not be the father. This isn't France.
[–]StrawhatMucci30 points31 points32 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The Lannisters Approve!
[–]whitefrogmatt3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes!
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ALL the relationship subs are one giant red pill
[–]i3lazefuryx10 points 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Only, if you know, how to properly use the knowledge/stories you read there.
Most of the commentators are a plain, beta cucks. They don't seem red pilled too much for me.
One of the comments:
"Yeah, my wife and I participate in the swinging lifestyle, full swap with one couple[...]if it turned out that I was not bio-dad, it would have ZERO effect on how I feel about my son.".
That subreddit is a total cuckfest. Pathetic insects.
[–]SingleManDR7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Swingers are already divorced. He just doesn't know it yet...
[–]DK-Growth11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/9bcrng/my_36m_wife_34f_has_been_having_an_affair_with/?st=JLGLAP66&sh=60b1694b
[–]phreshstart[S] 11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My advice to him would be to go his own way already... and never look back.
[–]SaltTax8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Holy fuck I feel sorry for that guy. I guarantee he's descending into madness right now. I hope he switches gears and gets ruthless. He has a ridiculous amount of leverage just waiting to be exercised.
[–]DarthSchadenfreude7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Adopting a kid was a fucking choice, made with the man as a willing participant, acting with agency.
Forcing a man to raise a child that isn't is, is like a kind of rape. If I want to adopt, I'll adopt. Having a kid through wife cheating is not adoption.
[–]GoDuke20188 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dont ever raise another mans dna. Waste of resources period. Wtf do simps still inject these feminazis with sperm. When will they wake up from the matrix. Fuck
[–]toolate4redpill5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Kid is gonna have flippers for hands
[–]keltsbeard6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
We have one of the hookers down on Cervantes street, she's got flipper looking hands that basically meet her shoulder. Heard all kinds of names for her from the obvious Flipper, to TRex. Seen her open up a car door with her mouth and hop in, closing the door with her feet.
[–]toolate4redpill7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
WTF? That should be on the "Guys will fuck anything with a pussy" Hall of Fame
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fucking love that Robert Baratheon meme xD
[–]MGTOW-Aus4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This sounds like something I would read from /r/ShitCrusaderKingsSay
[–]DatBoiCrazy3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Robert Baratheon?
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[–]i3lazefuryx1 point 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
XD
Best comment.
[–]Vlad_the_imp_hailer4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Uncle dad.
[–]marche_ck5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not from the US here. isn't incest supposed to be illegal? She should be charged right?
[–]greywolf19683 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not my sperm, not my concern.
[–]Ipride3622 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's time to put him on the throne.
[–]kwankiller3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Welcome to America my friends.
[–]SpaceMonkeySteve2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Holy fuck
[–]wont_give_no_kreddit2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just southern USA thing fucking lol
[–]BanMeIMakeNew2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Damn you done got Baratheoned.
[–]CutSnout3 points 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Its a rarity you see a good meme on this sub
[–]RedisDead691 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Roll Tide!
[–]boogalooshrimp11031 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
is his last name Baratheon?
[–]talk_show_ghost1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The horror...
[–]TheMarvelousSchmuck1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have a feeling this is fake, and I'm going to choose to believe that. Otherwise, if it is real, I'd have to vomit.
...Her brother must have been one hunky motherfucker... Oh God, in this case maybe he actually is a motherfucker...
[–]DarthCallidous1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
MGTOW has been good to me so far. I can't imagine something like that.
[–]BLZNWZRD1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Whoever is responsible for this..you have my gratitude.
[–]deathfromthecrab1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Time for a fucking crusade!
[–]Illustrious_Hour1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
aliens looking at him and laughing.
[–]BottleCap-SnackTrap0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Honestly not surprised at all.
[–]skippydammit0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Tardfest? sigh....
[–]Teflon08190 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well I guess that explains the uneven eyes... and the down syndrome.
[–]Mchooofer0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's messed up
[–]jamesnaranja900 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Probably it is her stepbrother.
[–]an0naly1 point 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
._.
[–]mrcandyman1 point 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Wait... same age and I suspected my ex and her brother were getting it on at the end of our relationship... He's actually the reason she broke up with me.
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One of the comments:
"Yeah, my wife and I participate in the swinging lifestyle, full swap with one couple[...]if it turned out that I was not bio-dad, it would have ZERO effect on how I feel about my son.".
That subreddit is a total cuckfest. Pathetic insects.
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