Dieting

DangZagnut · 2019-05-14T00:38:17+00:00

CICO

And consider keto/low sugar. If you’ve been fat you probably have a blood sugar /swing issue that makes you hungry crave.

mtamez1221 · 2019-05-15T09:51:48+00:00

I was fat for a couple of my teen years- at 5'10 I got to around 240lbs, now I’m at 180. I’d recommend you just take it slow. Starting by cutting out soda, either completely or substituting it with zero calorie soda. Does wonders for me. I’m smooth sailing at 180lbs doing jack shit(fuck depression). I basically eat a balanced diet. Some oatmeal and maple with bananas. Potatoes, eggs. Lean ground beef. Beans and rice. Fruits. Stuff like that. I don’t have the patience for vegetables unfortunately.

I still eat pizza every now and then, some Wingstop too and it doesn’t seem to affect me in the grand scheme of things. Point being, you will relapse if you’re trying to be perfect. Instead just take it slow, treat yourself when you feel you’ve earned it. You just have to get used to eating well and the shit gets easy honestly.

My ideal weight would probably be 165lbs but as I said, my depression has been acting up. I used to love the gym, good for you outing in the work! On the bright side I haven’t let myself go. Still need that accountability.

intjmonk · 2019-05-15T02:33:37+00:00

I'm not doing it to get chicks, I have no energy for that nonsense, but rather I'm doing it for my long term health.

And this is why you'll likely succeed - you're doing it for yourself. There's no dieting advice I can give here that hasn't already been stated, and everyone's body responds differently. If you keep looking you'll find your stride, and then refine it, until it becomes your practice.

Check back in here with updates, sluggothebold.

qoning · 2019-05-14T09:40:29+00:00

There's a lot of things you can do keto is good, but I found that my body really likes 3-5 day water fasts. It's not easy to do it mentally, but it feels fucking great afterwards. Needless to say that you lose weight kinda fast, especially if you do it once or even twice per month.

No silver bullet. Find what works for you.

MarqNiffler · 2019-05-14T19:25:50+00:00

I can't speak to keto - some people seem to do well but I think it's not for everybody. It also seems like a particular balance you have to stay very disciplined about.

I've had some recent success with Whole30. It's a pretty broadly restrictive plan to start, and if done properly can really give you insight into food sensitivities and habits. It's a good springboard to address better eating habits all around.

In my particular case, I am TERRIBLE at portion control. So for me it's easier to simply eliminate an entire food type like Daity, or Gluten than it is to try to eat smaller portions of those foods. I know I'll just over eat.

I also removed a ton of stuff from my apartment. Just dumped it, or took it to work. If it's not in my pantry I can't get a craving and eat it. Whole30 also has you preparing a lot of your food in advance, so you will have healthy options available, or at the very least, it means you won't have snacks around.

Herbivore4Life · 2019-05-14T16:59:21+00:00

Keto and Intermittent Fasting. Works incredibly, stick with it for a month and you will see crazy results.

POPPOPCAP93 · 2019-05-16T01:48:09+00:00

If you're a bit crafty in the kitchen search up healthy alternatives to junk food. Message me and I'll send you some videos to get you started.

DopaMonkey · 2019-05-16T08:04:58+00:00

Going vegetarian and doing exercise is one the easiest ways to lose weight and be healthy.

Lots of people are suggesting keto (and that's even better for fast weightloss) but i'd suggest a vege diet if you have no underlying insulin issues.

avtarius · 2019-05-14T09:06:46+00:00

General thing I see : Most people look at diet and not activity.

I know of people who maintain high metabolism via active lifestyles be it gym or outside, and then eat whatever they want.

I also know of a recent case where only a keto diet helped someone lose 10kg.

The basic rule is, build and burn. If you eat more than you burn, well that's where fat comes from. If you don't build, you'll just be losing fat and not conditioning your body which affects your mind.

KernelMayhem · 2019-05-14T06:02:56+00:00

Look into Keto

Maximum_Afternoon · 2019-05-14T00:55:29+00:00

It's doable, I've done it. If you want a lot of science backed info on the process, I recommend the book linked at the end of this post.

Keep walking.
Get about 1.2 grams of protein per pounds of body weight per day.
Maintain about a 25% caloric deficit based on your daily requirements.
Lift heavy weights. (Why? On a caloric deficit, your body will lose weight, no question. But unless you specifically demonstrate to your body that you're USING your muscle, it will drop fat and muscle. And muscle is the one thing that uses up calories just maintaining itself doing nothing, so the more you have, the higher your resting daily usage is.)

Kindle version is less than 8 bucks:

https://www.amazon.com/Bigger-Leaner-Stronger-Building-Ultimate/dp/1938895304/

I'd second the "try to avoid carbs" approach, as they seem to make me hungrier too. But if you're getting that 1.2x protein a day, won't be much room left for carbs anyway.

Impossible-asset · 2019-05-14T02:49:55+00:00

Ok. So here it goes. I'll keep it as brief as I can.

About me: 305 down to 262 in 4 months. that's 43 lbs. Went from a bare bar to 100 lbs on the bench-press in that time. Still making very good progress toward my fighting weight of 206.

You're walking, that's good. Keep walking it's a healthy activity.

That said: Here's the fitness regimen that has been getting me results.

Monday: P90x Chest and Back, then walk 2 miles on an incline treadmill.

Tuesday: Ladder workout (described below), 3 miles on treadmill run/walk as I feel.

Wednesday: P90x YogaX (just the first 45 minutes of it, I can't do all 90 yet, and fuck some of those poses I'm convinced you could tear your sack right off).

Thursday: Ladder workout, then run/walk 3 miles on the treadmill

Friday: P90x Shoulders and Arms, 2 mile walk on incline intervals.

Saturday: Walk around the neighborhood 4 miles

Sunday: Rest. P90x Stretch.

For the ladder workout:

low impact burpees (no jump, extend one leg out at a time and back)
pushups (I use pushup bars and yeah I do the girlie version of a pushup)
Lunges
Sit-ups
Squats

Do the workout like this:

1,2 / 1,2,3 / 1,2,3,4 / 1,2,3,4,5 with a 15 second "rest" between individual exercises, and a one-minute rest between "steps"

This is HIIT training and a full-body workout. The goal is to complete it as quickly as possible with good form.

On the Nutrition Front: I am doing a pretty aggressive 5:2 intermittent fasting nutrition plan. Basically 5 days of the week you eat normally, (your 1500 calories), and two days a week, you don't eat anything for that day. Just LOTS of water, black tea and coffee. Most of what I DO eat is green vegetables, good healthy oils, avocado, chicken, and bacon as a treat. Pretty much a "low carb" diet but I'm not trying to get into ketosis, just playing around with the insulin hormone cycle of eating. For more info on that, check out r/intermittentfasting

I am going a little more aggressive with it, I do a 4:3 plan on a two-week cycle. So my eating looks like this:

WEEK 1:

Monday: Fasting

Tuesday: Eat normally

Wednesday: Fasting

Thursday: Eat Normally

Friday: Fasting

Saturday: Eat Normaly

Sunday: Dinner only.

WEEK 2:

Monday: Eat Normally

Tuesday: Fasting

Wednesday: Eat Normally

Thursday: Fasting (and this completes the cycle)

Friday, Saturday, Sunday = eat whatever the FUCK I want. (just mind portion control). Pizza? Fuck yeah. Korean BBQ? Bitch pass the tongs. Reuben Sandwich? Yes with a side of pickles and Sauerkraut and leave me alone.

Sorry if this is a bit long, but I wanted to give you my formula for how I am making this happen so far. 43 lbs in 4 months and some change is a pretty hefty amount of progress. Blood pressure is down to normal levels, and I'm feeling a LOT better health-wise.

What has been the linchpin to my success so far has been 80% nutritional changes, and 20% exercise.

If you have any questions about this, feel free to ask in the comments or by DM if that makes you feel more comfortable.

The last bit I would throw in is: Willpower is just the spark that gets you going. Developing a doable, repeatable plan that you can stay with AS A HABIT is what will take you from that initial "willpower" phase into real and lasting success.

Good Luck OP, we're with you.

re_all · 2019-05-14T07:10:30+00:00

Remember this, always.

The cravings for sugar never, ever go away!

Never!

But that is something you are going to have to live with. You see the success stories, you see the before/after pictures.... but what you don't see is are the moments those people stand in the grocery store.... staring at the 20oz bottle of coca cola... the king sized twix, the doughnuts, the chocolate and bread and sugar, and sugar and sugar and sugar!!!!!

And to take that sigh and just leave it on the shelf and continue to grind on without it.

Me, when I cut all sugars from my life, I was violently ill for several weeks. I am talking nausea, vomiting, headache, body pains, weakness, dizzy... the symptoms peaked after two weeks, and slowly started to ebb away.

I was 249lbs, and am now 195lbs... and even still... I stare at the candy isle with the most absolute longing.... knowing I can never go back.

Believe me, do NOT believe in the "cheat day" or "cheat meal"

Cause "its just one cola" "its just one candy bar" "its just one month of gorging on sweets!" "its just one hundred pounds gained back, but I can lose it all again!"

Backsliding is so easy.

For me, I tell people that sugar is a drug more dangerous and insidious than heroin / meth / crack, whatever.

Cut sugar from you life, and the rest will fall into place. Your mind will eventually grow stronger, but never forget... you are only one swallow of sugar away from a total disaster.

Supernumiphone · 2019-05-14T05:27:40+00:00

Sugar is a huge part of the story for a lot of people. I've always been naturally lean but I was shocked how much more I leaned down without trying once I finally kicked sugar. That includes fruit by the way, basically anything sweet.

yermanbob · 2019-05-14T08:45:06+00:00

I'm lazy so I just cut calories, or was at least wary of sugar beer and bread. It took 3 years to drop 90lbs via cycling the short distance to work as my "extra" fitness routine.

Getting good eating habits has overall made the biggest difference for me.

Being out in the sunshine helps too.

Good luck.

sikki_nixx · 2019-05-14T00:53:10+00:00

At that weight, id say 2000 calories per day..4 miles is fantastic. Throw in some weight training and stay consistent with all of it and you'll get to your goal. I'm 48, 6'2"... Right in the middle of going from 284 to 200...weighed 237 last week. I try and walk 12k steps per day and am successful about 90% of the time...and I lift 4 days a week. Rest, days off and nutrition are equally important as exercise, if not more....good luck, bro! P.s...water, raw foods and organic meats are the foods I eat...

21rjh08 · 2019-05-14T07:14:54+00:00

Keto is fine for the short-term but I have my doubts about how sustainable it is over longer periods. Better to just have a balanced diet in my opinion, as you're more likely to stick to it.

I personally try for 1g of protein for every 1lb of bodyweight per day and try to avoid sugar as much as possible. If you stick to these 2 basic principles and stick to your calorie amount, you should see results. I will say 1500 calories rather low to me.

I will occasionally treat myself to a sugar-free version of a soft drink if I get a craving for something sweet. Not as good but still it's something.

Good luck!

Title	Dieting
Author	sluggothebold
Upvotes	18
Comments	40
Date	May 14, 2019 12:33 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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