[FR] My Main Event

BobbyPeru · 2017-12-29T17:24:29+00:00

Guy negotiates sex and sets an ultimatum.

I don’t remember that in the sidebar.

bogeyd6 · 2017-12-29T16:28:59+00:00

Can we get a bit more context here? Your FR really sounds like you negotiated attraction, and that isn't going to work out. Sex is going to be awesome for a month or two and then just taper right back off.

88Will88 · 2017-12-30T00:29:57+00:00

“She doesn’t like me but she still loves me”

This stood out to me and it may explain the whole dynamic. Usually when a woman is emotionally exiting a relationship she says the exact opposite. This implies to me that OP has alpha’d up enough to give her feelz and negotiate from a position of strength. The sex thing was both an ultimatum and a negotiation using brinksmanship. This can work but is it really a desirable outcome? I haven’t bothered to go through the post history. Do you still love this girl? Do you want to be with her? The fact that you feel so much happier holds the answer here. What are you happy about? The possibility of a new single life or the fact that you are “fixing” your marriage? There are kids involved (fucking retard for having kids in a DB relationship) so tread lightly, you made them so put their wellbeing ahead of your own Rambo.

Rian_Stone · 2017-12-29T18:16:10+00:00

which I ignored

Usually when people ignore something, they don't make it a point to say they ignored it. Fake it till you make it I guess.

That night she came home and after the kids were in bed wanted to talk.

this isn't a main event, this is controlling the flow of information A main event is an emotional event for a woman, and if they aren't blurting it out half assed, then it's just plain old fashionned manipulation.

I suspected that this the main event was coming

Where you seek, you will find. this wasn't a main event, you were hoping it was. From everyone who has written a main event field report, they were expecting another fight/conversation/shit same old, same old. It should almost be a surprise. If you knew your woman's breaking point, you wouldn't be here after all.

She starts the talk, she is unhappy, I am too independent, I don’t consider her feels and her feels are sad. She wants to give it a month and then, if not better feelz, we are to separate. She doesn’t like me, but she still loves me.

ILYBINILWY is not a main event. This is you being put in the friend zone.

but I sat there calm, calculating, listening, in control, watching for queues, knowing the story as has been written her quite a few time. When she said separation, I understood I needed to take control of the situation.

Why do you think any of this is fucking important? You didn't cry like a bitch, run your mouth like a bitch, or freak out like a bitch. Not being a bitch isn't something to recieve an attaboy for, it's the fucking bare minimum to 'man'

I had clarified, asked for examples, what would make her feel better etc, I then said that I agreed it wasn’t working, that I wasn’t getting what I wanted out of the relationship either and that separation was the right thing. I just needed to understand why she wanted to wait a month, we should just do it now

Active listening. great to get your green belt cert, absolutely retarded thing here. You probably thought you were giving a come to jesus speech, when you were just friend zoned... You seem to enjoy your perception, but you fucked that up from the start. You were looking for something, and you twisted it around until you found it. You're ego invested in your purple pill dream son, it's not going to work. And I bet I'll see that when I continue reading.

When she said separation, I understood I needed to take control of the situation.

Off topic-but I'm really glad to be a part of the process here! Show, don't tell. I hope you do that IRL better than how you describe the 'event'

It dropped like a bomb. She was shocked. I then briefly explained that after Years of sexual rejection, I was not surprised that I wasn’t nice and I was ready to move on. I then handed her an “out” by saying that it was such a pity because other than sex, our relationship was great, we made a good team, she had started owning stuff around the house, etc, but I needed both and regardless of everything else, I wouldn’t live in a sexless relationship.

Yup. Keep talking. she was probably shocked at your 'you can't fire me, I will quit, watch me' technique.

She took the out

I'll bet you think that you were owning your shit, on account of you making her kill the puppy.

After a short time I agreed to try for a month, but set the clear expectation that if sex wasn’t regular, kinky and very enthusiastic at the end of it, I was out.

you cannot negotiate desire. did you happen to miss that somewhere? did someone here tell you that you could? Point them out, I'll ban them

I meant every word and today am pulling together a divorce plan. I have told her to get a job. I am interviewing lawyers.

you were supposed to do this right after you hit the weights for the first session, not after you sat on your hands for, let me guess, two years?

The entire thing was delivered without judgement or negative emotion, it was in my frame and felt balanced. Honestly, I know this is supposed to suck, but it felt great and today feels even better

this is the little bitch inside you, hamstering away. You seem to think that not turning into a btich makes you deserve something. You've gone from a -1 to a 0

This is not an accomplishment, the same as this is not a main event.

Look, I'm sure you're proud of yourself, the same way a 6 year old is proud of his shitty crayon drawing on the fridge. But seriously man, get your shit together. You've basically gone from fuckup, to not really a fuckup. You aren't getting comfort tests, this isn't a main event, and you've been officially friendzoned. You'll probably get a few pity fucks out of it too. She might even feel it, with that touch of fear you may have inspired.

It's all fake though. And I'm getting really tired of these "I'm two years in, whats a covert contract?" MAP updates. So take this as the slap upside the head you need.

This was not a main anything, all you did was put your cards on the table, for her to strategize around.
you're focused on how you feel, stop that.
If it's a main event, it means you're worth a fuck, and she's fucking scared of losing you. Not your lifestyle, not your money, YOU.
Stop saying what you're going to do, and do it. When you write, if it's anything like how you act IRL, you talk, let people know what you're going to do, and walk everyone through the process. Then you pat yourself on the back for that cathardic feeling of being a man.

What is a beta male? He is the kind of man who anxiously looks for something to identify him as a man, while doing nothing to become a man. For him, there's Guinness. This is how this reads. I suggest you read it twice, and reflect on where you're bullshitting yourself.

the next time you open your stupid whore mouth, you best have a potential plate in the wings, divorce papers in hand, and a plan for separation. If you want help with all that, search the sub, theres tons of info on all of it. When in doubt, askmrp and others will point you in the right direction.

But the buck stops here. No more fucking LARPING. Do this properly, or don't do it at all.

Sepean · 2017-12-30T09:10:47+00:00

She doesn’t like me, but she still loves me.

Bro, main events are the opposite. At that point she’s horny but bitching “I can’t stand living with such an asshole”.

What you’re doing here is “fuck me or fuck off”, which is the good old beta negotiating desire. You’re trying to leverage your provisioning, but at best you’ll get duty sex for it.

You need to up your alpha - looks, frame and game. That’s what generate the raw attraction that makes sex fun.

screechhater · 2017-12-30T14:29:33+00:00

Man boy sprinkles alpha on an interaction and wins the battle, but starts the domino effect of losing the war.

Side bar, lift and STFU

After she hands you your balls in a bag and you wake up in the couch at mom and dads let us know how the main event actually went

md8716 · 2017-12-30T09:19:48+00:00

If you are getting excited about standing up to your wife, you're still in her frame. When you have to negoitate sex, you're absolutely in her frame. If you're worried about her leaving, you're in her frame.

BluepillProfessor · 2017-12-30T21:57:41+00:00

I understood I needed to take control of the situation.

FUCK YES!!!

if sex wasn’t regular, kinky and very enthusiastic at the end of it, I was out.

ummmmm....Wut?

Dude. dude. dude.

It doesn't work that way. You cannot negotiate desire.

You have a TINY out and just a little bit of wiggle room. You cannot negotiate desire but you can COMMAND it. You have the opportunity to flirt and kino and do the 10 second kiss EVERY DAY. How much are you having sex every month? I would initiate more often than that but not TOO MUCH more. You need to get her horny and keep her there. You need to be doing drive bys and be funny/cocky. You need to implement Sex God Method.

That's a tall order for one month.

0kool74 · 2018-01-01T14:59:39+00:00

She ordered me not to go in a bitchy tone when she saw me getting ready, so I kissed her on the head and went anyway. I got back to silent treatment which I ignored and carried on as normal. Then just prior to friends coming over for tea, she leaves.

Points for doing you!

That night she came home and after the kids were in bed wanted to talk

Yep.....could kinda see that coming. You've obviously been "sidebaring" and not being the good little bitch that she's used to and now she's not happy about it.

She starts the talk, she is unhappy, I am too independent, I don’t consider her feels and her feels are sad. She wants to give it a month and then, if not better feelz, we are to separate. She doesn’t like me, but she still loves me.

Uh huh......suspicions confirmed. Now either you are not sprinkling in enoug "comforts" and are being too dominant, or you weren't at all supposed to get outside of your little box and be anything more than the little beta ass bitch mangina faggot that you had been previously.

When she said separation, I understood I needed to take control of the situation

What? Jumping the gun a bit too soon maybe? Sounds possible.

After she had finished, I had clarified, asked for examples I just needed to understand why she wanted to wait a month, we should just do it now.

Uh.......never Ever EVER DEER dude. You don't give a shit about examples, or you shouldn't give a shit about them. Her problems are HER problems....not yours.

It dropped like a bomb. She was shocked. I then briefly explained that after Years of sexual rejection

Once again, you're DEERing. She doesn't give a shit about your lack of sexual satisfaction. You're supposed to be controlling the playing field and the narrative so that she's riding your dick like 8 seconds and is more satisfied about you getting off than herself. >She took the out and started justifying why we shouldn’t throw everything away and how she understood, but feelz, feelz, feelz. More proof of the above that your game has not totally overcome her aversion to you.

After a short time I agreed to try for a month, but set the clear expectation that if sex wasn’t regular, kinky and very enthusiastic at the end of it, I was out.

And now you are negotiating....and apaprently haven't fully read or internalized the Sidebar. If you had/have, you'd KNOW that you can't negotiate attraction or desire. You are basically giving her just enough rope to get you back in line.

You're still too wishy/washy and don't have a firm level of conviction. If you did, you'd of told her point blank that you are done. You don't give the FMoFY speech unless you are solid in your resolve to end the relationship. And you certainly don't give it without leaving them no choice but to comply both through your actions and your perceived level of worth....neither of which you've done here.

Honestly, I know this is supposed to suck, but it felt great and today feels even better

Of course it does....because you think you've won. However, I'm not sure that you actually have.

Persaeus · 2017-12-29T22:21:37+00:00

Agree with Rian that this was not a main event; but instead your FMoFY speech. As far as FMoFY speeches go; I'd say you passed.

Your sporadic post history leaves a lot of questions unanswered. You say in your post that you have been working your MAP for almost 3 years now; but these post are awful sparse on details. What is your height, weight, %BF, lifts? Have you been gaming the wife and strange? Have you number closed multiple women?

Hopefully you fired the nanny and housekeeper months ago. Otherwise, you will be paying for them for months to come.

I have told her to get a job.

this made me LOL harder than any other part of the post. Nanny is supposed to be fired, she has a job . . . BEFORE you drop the D bomb.

Per my reply to Rian below; I think you have a chance to pull this off. The key is to stay in your best frame (that you want) for the next month. Your living the dream life happy as a clam, gaming the pants off her, unfazed by her shit test, and initiating relentlessly. This is your offer IN ACTION. Otherwise, NEXT the bitch. You guys that live in DB for years and then have kids make me want to puke.

RedWhacker · 2018-01-17T00:10:45+00:00

"That night she came home and after the kids were in bed wanted to talk. I suspected that this the main event was coming because she usually prefers to sulk and has been hugely volatile in her moods lately

She starts the talk, she is unhappy, I am too independent, I don’t consider her feels and her feels are sad. She wants to give it a month and then, if not better feelz, we are to separate. She doesn’t like me, but she still"

So you didn't reassure her by fucking her proper?

She clearly states her feelz aren't being addressed so instead you negotiate for pity sex instead of fucking her right there and now.

Your wife was screaming for a man her man who apparently was being a bitch about his own feelz.

This was the moment to remind her what your neglected cock felt like inside her.

You dont say you do.

PeggedByOwlette · 2018-01-02T16:25:21+00:00

I LOVED reading this story op. Fan. Fucking. Tastic!

Her poor hamster!

nightmancommeth · 2017-12-29T18:20:15+00:00

Wow! Looks like you nailed it. I had a similar one to this in the past and was not afraid to go nuclear either. Things picked up quite a bit and have remained that way for over a year now. Well done!

Title	[FR] My Main Event
Author	Worriedtitan
Upvotes	25
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Date	December 29, 2017 4:14 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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This is not an accomplishment, the same as this is not a main event.