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20 feminist headlines that would count as hate speech if they were written about Jews

EvilPundit

March 23, 2015
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Title 20 feminist headlines that would count as hate speech if they were written about Jews
Author

EvilPundit

Upvotes 142
Comments 29
Date March 23, 2015 11:17 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/302jfz/20_feminist_headlines_that_would_count_as_hate/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/20-feminist-headlines-that-would-count-as-hate.985061
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Comments

[–]ckiemnstr345 13 points14 points15 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I didn't expect /r/menkampf to leek into the real world. A lot of the articles are considered low hanging fruit because they are written by real bigots so replacing men with any other group one is born into isn't that hard.

[–]EvilPundit[S] 12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

A lot of the articles ... are written by real bigots

I think that's the point the author was trying to make. Many people don't realise that feminists can be bigots.

[–]ckiemnstr345 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I guess I'm too used to viewing the authors of most of those articles as bigots so I forget that most people don't.

[–]pokemon_fetish 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's also /r/stormfrontorsjw

[–]IMR800X 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Delicious leeks.

[–]moderndaycassiusclay 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow all these articles seem like hateful tirades against a specific sex... Isn't there a word for that, like, um, sexism or something? Oh wait, I forgot. Women can't be sexist because only men have any real power. /s

[–]SimCity8000 -4 points-3 points-2 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

This is a lazy comparison because the term Jew is inflammatory and you could replace basically any noun in an opinion piece with "Jew" and it's going to sound awful.

Examples from this subreddit:

20 /r/mensrights post that would count as hate speech if they were written about Jews:

  1. Jew strategy: Containing the non-Jew break-out

  2. Ridiculous Jew talks nonsense.

  3. No means no, Jews

  4. To /r/Jews: Here's what's wrong with Reddit.

  5. This sub spends too much time complaining about Jews and not enough time pushing forward gentile rights and changes in the treatment of gentiles.

  6. Five Jew myths that will not die

  7. There was a Jewish outcry in my class with Part A was read aloud

  8. Can We Try To Focus on Gentile Rights, not "I Hate Jews!" jokes?

  9. The research process of Jew academics

  10. One Gentile vs. the Jew

  11. Comedians Are Leading the Jew Movement — And Here's What That Says About Us

  12. ANTI-JEW PROTEST PRANK! • hilarious crosspost from /r/videos

  13. a few thoughts after watching a programme about Racism and how i feel it relates and has a few good points regarding Jews

  14. Gentiles. How to defend yourself against Jew cyber bullies.

  15. 6 Truths About Gentiles Jews Don’t Want You to Know

  16. Be wary of the Jew!

  17. "5 Jew Heroes Who Were Actually Terrible People"

  18. Judaism vs. Islamophobia

  19. Is there a single Jew who accepts the fact that Gentiles are on average worse off than women according almost all statistics measuring the quality of life and discrimination?

  20. More signs US style Jew laws are coming to Australia. 'flash incarcerations' She points, you get 24 hrs jail.

[–]EvilPundit[S] 22 points23 points24 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Are you substituting 'Jew' for 'feminist'? Because that is not a legitimate comparison.

Jews are born Jewish and they have no choice. Feminists choose to become feminists.

If you substituted 'Jew' for 'woman', that would be a legitimate comparison.

[–]NUMBERS2357 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

One of the things on the list substitutes "Jews" for "MRAs" so you can make the same criticism about the article.

[–]SimCity8000 -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When compiling this list I saw many posts about women that would have worked well, but I skipped over them.

I avoided it because many of the users here use the caveat that they are complaining about feminists - not women.

I also avoided it because there are users here who identify as women.

[–]tyciol -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That depends on whether one means Jews as in religious practitioners of judaism or whether it means the ethnic group associated with that religion, individuals who may be atheists or Raelians or whatever.

[–]EvilPundit[S] 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Which ones did the Nazis kill?

The answer is all of them.

[–]anonlymouse 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hardly anyone converts to Judaism, so the distinction is largely meaningless.

[–]xNOM 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Fine. Substitute the word "black." It doesn't change anything. I loved this article.

[–]SimCity8000 -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

yeah it's a great article if all you're looking for is for your biases to be re-affirmed.

[–]xNOM 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

?? It's a valid thought experiment, is it not?

[–]iongantas -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I object to this comparison, because 'Jews' is a largely religious and cultural group that do, say, and assert a number of objectionable things that are based on a chosen context, and not some innate feature like gender.

[–]EvilPundit[S] 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

If you like, you could apply the same comparison to any group of your choice. I'm just using the author's words.

Be that as it may, many people still consider speech that vilifies Jews to be 'hate speech'.

[–]NWOslave 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's because those in power write the rules of indoctrination.

Example: Filthy Jews. Filthy Christians. Filthy Muslims. Filthy Atheists. Filthy Moldavians (list all ethnicities). Filthy men. Filthy women. Filthy gays. Filthy straights.

Everyone knows their order of indoctrination, it's taught in the schools, by the politicians and by the media. Filthy Jew is the worst. Filthy woman is the second worst. Filthy gay is the third worst. The rest are irrelevant, everyone knows that as well. Your government has special laws for Jews, women and gays, that's an incontestable fact. All these are obviously supremacist laws.

If the bad old Nazis had won the war, the ADLs mission statement wouldn't be to ensure that no Jews were ever disparaged in any way, the ADLs mission statement would be to ensure that no Germans were ever disparaged in any way.

[–]tyciol -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I do not object to the comparison however do think it is fine to elaborate upon the comparison to point out the differences as iongantas has done.

However, it is also worth pointing out that hate speech about 'Jews' can sometimes refer to what is perceived to be some kind of racial ethnicity thing (thus stereotypes like big noses and curly hair) and not exclusively about religious practice.

That's why it's confusing, I wish people would come up with a different word for the ethnic meaning and the religious one to sort that out. I have no problem with the ethnic, but I have issues with theists and foreskin-cutters.

[–]iongantas 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, it is difficult to splice apart "Jews" as a race, culture, and religion. Obviously one cannot morally criticize another's genetic provenance. But one can totally criticize culture and religion (which is just another kind of culture), as those are actions people choose to do.

[–]EvilPundit[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Language has its limitations. We have to work within those limitations, and get the best results we can.

[–]BlitheCynic -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is a pretty weak point. For starters, most headlines are clickbait anyway, and they tell us just as little about their actual content whether they are about Jews or men. Second of all, the structure of the article is misleading because it makes it seem like the sub-headlines are actual quotes from those authors, and they are not. Third of all, the history of anti-Semitism is not the same as the history of sexism (misandry OR misogyny). To try to make a point by saying, "What if they said it about X!?!" when comparing apples and oranges is both shitty argumentation and sensationalistic.

[–]rocelot7 -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Hasn't this been done to death?

[–]EvilPundit[S] 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Not yet.

Not until it's the instinctive reaction of the public to all feminist hate screeds.

[–]rocelot7 -5 points-4 points-3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It shouldn't have to be done.

[–]EvilPundit[S] 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But it does. That's life.

[–]wlxr -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I know.

[–]NWOslave -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The poor Jews. The poor women. The poor gays. All of them sure sound like identical supremacist groups. And they all rely on identical ideologies.

Step #1 ______ have been oppressed by ______ Fill in the first blank with Jews, women or gays. Fill in the second blank with gentiles, men or straights.

Step #2 ______ has done all these good things. ______ has done all these bad things. Fill in the first blank with Jews, women or gays. Fill in the second blank with gentiles, men or straights.

Congratulations, you've now formed your very on supremacist organization.

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