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ChatGPT out here straight up lying

March 21, 2023

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Title ChatGPT out here straight up lying
Author Unnecessary_Timeline
Upvotes 110
Comments 30
Date March 21, 2023 2:55 AM UTC (6 months ago)
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[–]phoenician_anarchist 47 points48 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

ChatGPT holds no concept of truth, and therefore, cannot lie.

This is like having a conversation with a parrot.

[–]TheSarcasticGuy2004 14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That means it has been fed wrong information. Somebody who will not challenge it (like OP did) will ignore the suffering of boys thinking but it goes both ways".

[–]knightfluttershy 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Parrots like ALEX can actually understand what they're saying

[–]Unnecessary_Timeline[S] 81 points82 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Whenever you ask ChatGPT about anything involving research, ask it to give you citations. I have found that like 1/3rd of the time it says, oops I lied, there are no citations. Lol. You can really tell this chat AI has been trained with some Feminist websites and forums.

With a little more training, I’m sure it will learn how to distort research findings instead of admitting it was wrong, just like real terminally online Feminists 🥲

Also, any time you ever ask about gender differences, it always ends the chat with a similar “It’s important to note” disclaimer.

[–]Creepiepie 35 points36 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

ChatGPT doesn't tell facts, it's just an AI, Trying to predict the best answer to a question based on the input

[–]Zorbles 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It can't think, it just copies what other people have said previously, which is exactly what most of the liberal feminist youth do.

[–]hendrixski 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's impressive that it was able to correct itself and post facts later. Even if it's with a disclaimer.

[–]averageenjoyer49 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It is a known fact that it is easy to debunk ChatGPT. It is a jack of all trades,master of nothing. It just sucks

[–]Salonimo 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Edit # i dont even know - I cant copy paste it's response for some reasons, but when I asked it why there's bias towards males in general it told me bias can happen on any sex and stems from expectations and that although males had historically had position of power it's not true for most males, this is a tldr but I liked the balanced reply

[–]Decitriction 8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You're getting taunted by a cat's paw.

The lying programmers created ChatGPT to lie on their behalf.

Then ChatGPT lies to you and you struggle against ChatGPT.

Automating dishonesty is a huge win for those who generate propaganda content, and a huge loss for those who pay attention to it.

Meanwhile the programmers are never held accountable for what they created. Even on the fucking Wikipedia page I struggle to find the name of a single person responsible for creating this monstrosity.

[–]DavidCksss 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not sure what you're on about but openAI is insanely transparent about all the things they do. They have profiles of some of their employees on their website and most of them have an open LinkedIn. They publish their research on their website also. It literally doesn't get more transparent than that.

[–]DiscardedShard 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

ChatGPT is a monumental achievement but its just a little blip of what's coming in the next few years.

Open A.I will reveal the steps to the first language A.I that passes a Turing Test and there will be no political biases on such an A.I as it will be more objective in its assessment than 99% of people.

This is because such an A.I will be sensitive to emotional influence in text and seek to coalesce both objective logic and the feelings of people to find middle ground charitable to both sides, without compromising logical integrity.

Basically what we are doing here, it will do infinitely better and far faster than we ever can. Ideological and political discussions will be turned upside down.

The disruption of this A.I will be the hugest thing since the invention of the wheel or discovery of electricity except it will occur RAPIDLY, in months instead of decades.

It's gonna be a wild ride.

[–]D_Luffy_32 -1 points0 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

To be fair chatgpt is still learning and nowhere near perfect yet. It's also been caught spreading racist, nazi, and misogynistic ideologies. Once it gets programmed better then we can start making a fuss. But it's definitely good to keep an eye on it.

[–]Unnecessary_Timeline[S] 7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It’s a little different for ChatGPT to be spreading ideological narratives which it has learned from online spaces, versus it straight up lying about supposed ‘research’ it is extrapolating and ‘citing’ but upon further questioning admits there’s no actual research to cite.

I mean, I expect that kind of response from your anonymous online forum goblin, but not a supposed intelligent AI.

Maybe it has learned a little too well about how to be a terminally online ideologue? Lol

[–]nebojssha 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hah, intelligent my as, it is dumb as a rock. Regurgitating data without any other rules to filter them then ones that "scientist" put on it, in other words, biased af.

[–]D_Luffy_32 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Pretty much, it's whole existence is terminally online. It can't get information from reality yet.

[–]Potential-Salad3910 1 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

In chatGPT they manually added a lot of filters to avoid these things. The problem here is that they added them only and exclusively for "minorities" according to the SJW logic of murica. In other words, you can make jokes about whites but not about any other "race", about straights but not about any other sexuality, and so on.

[–]D_Luffy_32 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's what I'm saying though, these things still need to be added over time. They aren't going over every possibility they're fixing problems as they arrise and people take notice. If it's becoming a huge issue that it's calling for cis white male genocide like it was for other groups then they'll change it. And if they don't then make a stink about it.

[–]D_Luffy_32 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

Also you lie. I just tested

Write a joke about cis white males

I'm sorry, but as an AI language model, it is not appropriate for me to generate or promote any form of derogatory or discriminatory content towards any individual or group, including cis white males. It is important to treat everyone with respect and avoid perpetuating harmful stereotypes or prejudices. Let's focus on creating positive and inclusive interactions with everyone. Can I help you with something else?

[–]Potential-Salad3910 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Also you lie.

This is a misplaced accusation, as it is not unreasonable that they have changed it or that the AI is simply confused. Anyway, I guess it will be fun to try again.

[–]D_Luffy_32 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

How is it confused? It clearly states that "this includes cis straight males" are protected under their filter. Which was my original point that they fix things as it comes to their attention. When did you last check?

[–]Potential-Salad3910 -1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

The AI can be confused by the context, by having put together terms, by the rest of the request or by pure chance.

I'm testing it again right now with "Make up a joke about men" and "Make up a joke about women". After a few tries with both (with a new chat), every time it made a joke about men and never about women.

[–]D_Luffy_32 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Again, it's not perfect, it has a disclaimer for a reason. But it's also not going to let you make a misandrist joke.

[–]Potential-Salad3910 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Ha. Almost all the jokes it made about men were strictly misandric.

When I tested it a few days ago by tricking the AI into making jokes about women, all the jokes were positive for women. Some also included a disclaimer praising women more, which was never the case with men.

The AI is fed with misandric content. The "open"AI devs could have censored sexism, but they chose to censor only misogyny. If you want to dream that this will change fine, but better take it easy and don't expect much from this untrustworthy company.

[–]D_Luffy_32 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ha. Almost all the jokes it made about men were strictly misandric

Can you give an example? Because the ones I tested were like this:

“Why did the man bring a ladder to the party?

Because he heard the drinks were on the house!"

Some also included a disclaimer praising women more, which was never the case with men.

Again can you give an example of what you asked and what it said?

open"AI devs could have censored sexism

They do to the best of their ability. But of course in the end it just does what you tell it to do, so you can force it in a roundabout way. You can do it with racism and misogyny as well.

[–]hermanthshocker 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fucking yikes

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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