Flow chart that explains rape. Think this might be good as a reaction sometimes.

xNOM · 2016-01-08T22:49:12+00:00

The very fact that this flow chart needs to exist is pathetic. It was much simpler under the "demonstrated resistance?" standard before rape became a thought crime.

MonkeyCB · 2016-01-08T23:18:08+00:00

That's not how you make a rape flow chart.

PurpleViolettron · 2016-01-09T07:28:42+00:00

I take issue with question 6. If I say "Stop," and try to move away but the guy continues to do what he was before, I have withdrawn consent and that's rape regardless of whether he "knows" or not that I meant "Stop," when I said it. If we accept the logic of this flow chart, any person can get out of jail for an actual rape charge by saying "I didn't know they didn't consent. You can't hold me guilty for my ignorance."

Plus, there's an issue with number 5 that I just spotted. "Did you voluntarily agree or allow it to take place" is really bad wording. It reads as "Did you either voluntarily agree to the sex act? Did you allow the sex act to take place?" as if either of those being affirmative answers means there is consent. The first is consent, the second is not. Allowing a guy who is holding me down to fuck me is not consent. I don't get why they put "allow" in there in the first place.

TR6Cool · 2016-01-08T21:08:41+00:00

The flow chart is wrong. My wife and I get completely blotto drunk and have sex, per the flow chart it is rape! But obviously it is not. There are lots of other areas where it is wrong.

The more I look at this I see the flow chart is shit.

Not_An_Ambulance · 2016-01-08T21:01:40+00:00

Just want to disclaimer that I think there are a couple things I would disagree should be rape and I know my state would also count handjobs or fingering and some others probably do too... But, so many times that most horrific things won't stand up to this.

mwobuddy · 2016-01-09T05:36:52+00:00

Asshole, but not rapist. Rapist and asshole. That's the two sides of this. And women can do this to men, too.

ABunchofTards · 2016-01-09T10:03:19+00:00

Not entirely true.

Most states, you can sleep with someone who is inebriated within the context a long-term relationship without running afoul of the law.

Compoundwyrds · 2016-01-09T16:53:04+00:00

This needs to make it all the way around the Internet and back again.

empathica1 · 2016-01-09T07:29:25+00:00

3a is completely pointless and should be gotten rid of, as 6 covers the exact same cases as 3a. And whether or not the person knows that it was rape is completely irrelevant. You don't want rapists walking free because they uttered the words "I didn't know they didn't consent". In cases like this, it is already difficult to prove in a court of law that a rape occured, adjusting the scales even more in favor of the accused is pointless.

Ignorance isn't an excuse, in cases where the accused is guilty, but is unaware, they are a rapist. That's what "having sex with someone without consent" means.

TR6Cool · 2016-01-08T22:32:46+00:00

read the comments read the article. This does not fit your flow chart. How do you account for a "fruit and nut" job!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3387273/Activist-27-live-blogged-RAPE-social-media-just-minutes-alleged-violent-sexual-assault-took-place-set-example-survivors-need-speak-up.html

Not_my_foreskin · 2016-01-08T23:07:39+00:00

My flowchart for rape:

woman raped by man = woman's fault
woman raped by woman = woman's fault
man raped by woman = woman's fault
man raped by man = somehow a woman's fault

Title	Flow chart that explains rape. Think this might be good as a reaction sometimes.
Author	Not_An_Ambulance
Upvotes	53
Comments	60
Date	January 8, 2016 9:00 PM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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