I'm Sorry

feminazi_h8er · 2017-07-18T19:54:14+00:00

You don't have to apologize for your gender or for a cause within your gender. You sound very down to earth and real. Being a man in this world comes with its own perspective that you will never know. I personally have been sexually assaulted by a female that was older than me when I was a freshman in high school. I was trapped by the confines of society and knew that I could never tell anyone. How could I, a growing man, be taken advantage of and sexually assaulted by a female? I would be perceived as weak and not a man if I ever complained about it because I should want to have sex with a female. I only feel free talking about it behind the security of my pc monitor. I've never told anyone outside of reddit. I'm guessing many many men have this same experience. Just the fact that you have this support group of women to talk to is a good thing even if they're war mongers. Men do not have anything even close to a group they could talk to in the real world. All we have is /r/mensrights

AloysiusC · 2017-07-18T21:10:37+00:00

I appreciate the sentiment but please understand that you don't owe anyone an apology. As an individual you're only responsible for your own behavior.

2017-07-18T21:25:57+00:00

You don't owe us an apology. Especially not on your gender. If you had those horrible anti men opinions but now don't, no worries, we'll accept you either way.

Lethn · 2017-07-18T19:46:28+00:00

So long as you don't side with scumbags like them we'll get along fantastically well. This is what's interesting about the whole situation with MRAs and when it comes to these feminists/anti-capitalists generally with free speech and expression. No one's expecting total agreement on everything, it's not a collectivist group, I'm an Anarcho-Voluntaryist and there are leftists here lurking around that all have different opinions on things.

It's too surreal for people to wrap their heads around and I think that's why it's easier for most to just dismiss it all as nonsense. However when they actually see these people in real life in action they realise finally as you have "Okay, this is what they were talking about".

I think that is also how they've managed to gain so much influence over the years, ordinary people just don't think much of them so they're able to go on the attack against politicians and other political activists.

Go to doctors, midwives or other mothers for advice on pregnancy, don't rely on batshit people for medical and psychological advice. If it's any consolation victims like you are also one of the reason why MRAs exist in the first place, the majority really do just want equality and due process. Feminist groups like the ones you see directly hurt the victims because it not only makes them impossible to believe but also means that a victim especially if they have trauma and genuine psychological problems is going to have a lot of trouble recovering because the fucking hateful nutcases in those groups are making them even more afraid of men than before.

Since you said in your post that you had issues I actually recommend an interview for you to watch by a youtuber called Bearing. In it he talks to an ex-SJW/feminist like the ones you've seen in action and it will give you a lot of insight into exactly why these kinds of groups need to be stopped. One pretty disgusting story in it is where the ex-SJW ( Who is now of course completely sane since she left ) talks about how one of the crazies she was in a group with was actually illegally charging and offering therapy sessions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns2sqi16JW8&t=165s

elissa0xelissa · 2017-07-18T22:26:14+00:00

This reminds me of an NPR article I read recently about breastfeeding and how people in some countries have techniques that make it easier. One of the comments on the article was by a man who asked something along the lines of "As a man who knows nothing about breastfeeding, how difficult can it be? Don't you just stick the nipple in the baby's mouth?" And I thought, what a great question from a guy! Here's our chance as females to explain.

But nope was I wrong! Hundreds of angry responses to him, yelling at him, calling him names, death threats, telling him he doesn't deserve to ever be a father. It was sickening and sad :(

Startthecar27 · 2017-07-18T21:35:19+00:00

OP, I would suggest you watch the recent movie, The Red Pill, by Cassy Jaye.

mymraccount_ac · 2017-07-18T21:31:17+00:00

Stages of grief - denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. Whether it's through abuse, rejection, discrimination, whatever - there are a lot of people, men and women, stuck on the anger phase. I don't hold it against people personally, anger is natural. But they need help to move on, a sane voice to reflect on. Maybe that could be you.

Luchadorgreen · 2017-07-19T01:15:38+00:00

Yeah, sometimes we do exaggerate. At least some of the people here, do. But then are a lot of really good points being made here that you won't see in other places.

3dPrintedEmotions · 2017-07-18T23:46:10+00:00

Thanks for sharing your experience.

2017-07-19T00:26:28+00:00

Thank you for sharing your experience, and this is quite refreshing to read.

TheStumblingWolf · 2017-07-19T08:22:39+00:00

See this is the thing. It's as if we have all the possibilities in the world now to connect world wide and build bridges, but all we do is grow farther apart. Glad there are still sensible people. Keep being reasonable OP.

Xorism · 2017-07-19T01:28:32+00:00

Do you realise that by posting here you might get banned from feminist subreddits?

BaileysBaileys · 2017-07-19T07:59:09+00:00

One of the greatest things I have seen in this subreddit is that there is no quick judgements. There is more logic. And pregnancy is not the same for everyone. Even if you have done it before. I'm glad to see by your update that the blatant misandrists were dealt with.

GlassTwiceTooBig · 2017-07-19T11:43:27+00:00

People like to generalize when bad things happen to them because believing that everyone in a group is bad is more comforting than accepting that you got duped into being in an abusive relationship. It goes both ways, and isn't remotely exclusive to women's support groups.

JestyerAverageJoe · 2017-07-19T13:28:49+00:00

Thank you for saying what you're saying here. Two of the biggest issues facing the men's rights movement is a general lack of empathy for men and men's experiences, and a lack of women in particular speaking out on behalf of injustices towards men. (Ever notice the certainty with which feminists will describe men's experiences and lives, as though they have any way of knowing?)

In particular, for me, it is beyond painful how tolerant and even celebratory people are of blatant misandry, like you saw.

This being said, you don't owe anyone an apology. In contrast to feminists, MRAs do not view individual women as carrying some collective guilt that they are required to atone for. You are responsible for only your own actions. If you want to make the world a better place for men, start speaking out when you see injustices like the one you saw. See The Red Pill, and maybe show it to a friend or two who you think can be sympathetic. It's a hackneyed cliche, but you can be the change you want to see in the world.

Apology not accepted. Please keep fighting instead.

Title	I'm Sorry
Author	GetItTogether
Upvotes	134
Comments	34
Date	July 18, 2017 7:28 PM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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