Bull. There isn't a military person on the planet who, when engaged in full-on combat, wouldn't rather have twice as many boots on the ground. The more there are, the sooner the opposition is finished off, and therefore the fewer casualties on your own side.
It's simply the law of numbers, and it applies in every circumstance where mandatory conscription lays into combat.
They abandoned it because the major industrialized powers became so technologically advanced, they didn't need as many soldiers to engage i small regional conflicts..
Those aren't the circumstances where a draft arises though. A draft arises when there aren't enough boots to put on the ground.
We lost an entire war to Vietnamese and Chinese people that included a large percentage of scrawny short guys and even children. They kicked our holy big American asses, just because there were a lot of them.
The average height for a Vietnamese male is currently 5 ft 4 in (162.1 cm). Average weight for a Vietnamese male is 117 lbs. (53.3 kg).
Back in 1970's, their average height and weight were significantly less. Average height for a Vietnamese male in the 1970's was 5 ft 2 in (157 cm). How much does that weigh? About 110 lbs (50 kg)?
Most didn't even have jeeps to carry their shit around for long distances.
They used mules and land trains, and were given equipment by the Chinese/Soviets, not to mention the fact that the environment made jeeps unsuitable full stop.
And a woman can't drive a jeep or pack a mule then?
If it's not in a jungle, where 5'2" 110 lbs Vietnamese men already demonstrated they can kick big American asses off into the ocean, they ought to do much better where there are jeeps.
If not, just order them to clear mines, or stand by a roadside checking cars for bombs.
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I'm aware that he is not an MRA.
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LOL irrelevant. Give them guns, and put them on the front line. At least there will be twice as many people with guns.
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Bull. There isn't a military person on the planet who, when engaged in full-on combat, wouldn't rather have twice as many boots on the ground. The more there are, the sooner the opposition is finished off, and therefore the fewer casualties on your own side.
It's simply the law of numbers, and it applies in every circumstance where mandatory conscription lays into combat.
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They abandoned it because the major industrialized powers became so technologically advanced, they didn't need as many soldiers to engage i small regional conflicts..
Those aren't the circumstances where a draft arises though. A draft arises when there aren't enough boots to put on the ground.
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Twice as many people holding guns does not mean less safe.
That's just your imagination.
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Yeah. But it's not, really.
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Yup.
And some men are fatties too.
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None of that matters.
We lost an entire war to Vietnamese and Chinese people that included a large percentage of scrawny short guys and even children. They kicked our holy big American asses, just because there were a lot of them.
The average height for a Vietnamese male is currently 5 ft 4 in (162.1 cm). Average weight for a Vietnamese male is 117 lbs. (53.3 kg).
Back in 1970's, their average height and weight were significantly less. Average height for a Vietnamese male in the 1970's was 5 ft 2 in (157 cm). How much does that weigh? About 110 lbs (50 kg)?
Most didn't even have jeeps to carry their shit around for long distances.
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No, it's because there were a lot of them. And they were guerrillas.
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No, that's it really.
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Fuck all, they bleed the same. That's all that matters.
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And a woman can't drive a jeep or pack a mule then?
If it's not in a jungle, where 5'2" 110 lbs Vietnamese men already demonstrated they can kick big American asses off into the ocean, they ought to do much better where there are jeeps.
If not, just order them to clear mines, or stand by a roadside checking cars for bombs.
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Perhaps so. But not for being short. And ultimately, despite all the technological advantages of the US, we lost.
Modern warfare is not the NBA. It's not Arnold Schwarzenegger smiting another dude with his 20 pound Zweihänder like in Conan.
There are these things called bullets. In most instances, the big dudes are larger targets.
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LOL ridiculous.
The US hasn't even come to a stalemate in a war since Korea, in the 50's.
Pretty much every other significant military excursion since then has been a complete and utter failure.
It has nothing to do with what troops do to "win hearts and minds."
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I'm sure there was more carrying by hand by 5'2" 110 lb Viet Cong there than by American soldiers in nearly every war since WWI.
I never sad that you treat them specially.
Special treatment would be not drafting them.
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No. You just have half of the people doing those jobs as females, just as everywhere else.
No reason not to draft.
Not drafting women would be special treatment.
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Pack lighter.
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