Misguided advocates want false rape charges dismissed against Melisa Vistain

AboVeritas · 2013-03-11T14:00:41+00:00

"We believe someone who makes a false report of a crime shouldn't be charged with a crime."

Leinadro · 2013-03-11T13:53:41+00:00

I think a part of the problem is that with the way the accused are sometimes treated when it comes to rape related charges some people dont want women to be on the receiving end of a charge.

I wonder how much applause that rape crisis center will be doing if it turns out that she did indeed make a false accusation.

Cases like this are exactly why I dont like that "believe the victim" attitude. Because with that in effect it becomes a competition to declare who the victim is. Which is why when a rape claim is made the woman is labeled the victim from the get go and the guy is labeled the rapist from get go.

hardwarequestions · 2013-03-11T13:30:43+00:00

Keep us updated as you find out more of the details mate.

Leinadro · 2013-03-11T14:41:12+00:00

Gender warriors. Catchy. Yes you are right it seems that with people like that when caught between acknowledging that some accusations are false and sticking to the "women are victims/men are rapists" script they actually choose to stick to the script.

Nomenimion · 2013-03-11T17:57:08+00:00

Maybe they should call themselves, "False Rape Crisis Services." That's obviously what they really stand for.

Pecanpig · 2013-03-11T13:43:57+00:00

TL;DR

Did they have solid evidence that whoever was actually raped by whoever they were accusing of rape?

SaveTheManatees · 2013-03-11T21:08:56+00:00

It would seem like prosecuting false rape allegations would scare people who were actually raped into not reporting it. "Is there enough evidence of my rape?" "Am I going to go to jail if no one can prove I was raped?" Etc.

PierceHarlan · 2013-03-12T01:15:39+00:00

UPDATE: http://www.cotwa.info/2013/03/megan-e-jones-williams-on-melisa.html

Crimson_D82 · 2013-03-12T03:42:49+00:00

Lucky I am not the judge, there would be prison time with no chance of early release for this.

edit: word

stopsayingfaggot · 2013-03-11T20:38:57+00:00

Like everyone else, I don't know what really happened here. But I don't think it's fair to say that "They [rape victim advocates] are intent on arguing that a person who makes an accusation of sexual assault should not be charged with making a false report under any circumstances." They believe that the evidence suggests a rape did occur in this case, and that the false rape charge against Melisa Vistain is spurious.

http://www.sexualassaultmyths.com/

"The manual clearly states the procedure Officer Marks was duty bound to follow but allegedly choose not to. Moreover, court subpoenas prove the person accused of the assault statement to the police was a complete lie, which is a felony, yet he is still the state's only witness. There are several state and national sexual assault support groups looking into this policy which now has gained national attention." [...]

Mr. Brunken goes on to explain that, "More disturbing is the fact that the evidence put forth by the state as 'consent' to the alleged assault, are Facebook chats between my wife and the accused. Also, the accused turned over pictures of the assault from a website profile he created to broadcast the alleged sexual assault. He told the police he would turn over his computers and cameras with all the videos taken but later refused and then destroyed them while under subpoena, he also admitted to having sex with and choking the victim. The pictures of the assault used as evidence against my wife show her naked and crying while being pinched, slapped, and beat by the accused on his web-cam so long bruises had already formed.

"The police choose to ignore this abuse and do no investigation as mandated in state guidelines. Instead, Assistant District Attorney Casey Bloodworth, apparently decided that the pictures somehow show 'consent' and refused to do any investigation, and excluded the accused as a suspect because of his relationship to the victim. This is a direct violation of the Illinois Criminal Sexual Assault Act. Of 1984 and of course federal law."

The events are murky and this account is biased, but the claim is that the accused rapist has been demonstrated to be lying, and there's photographic evidence of the alleged rape victim having been abused while naked and crying. And yet the authorities apparently chose to investigate her as a false rape accuser, rather than the accused rapist. Given what I know so far about this case, I'd say the rape victim advocates are doing the right thing in protesting the charges against Vistain.

Title	Misguided advocates want false rape charges dismissed against Melisa Vistain
Author	PierceHarlan
Upvotes	47
Comments	25
Date	March 11, 2013 1:01 PM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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