MRA’s and m**ow

WeEatBabies · 2023-07-16T18:56:46+00:00

Character assassination!

By the way, when you've lost an argument and want to make it worse on yourself, attack the other person's character.

Feminists are experts at that ;)

BurnAfterEating420 · 2023-07-16T21:04:51+00:00

it's honestly like lumping "abortion rights" and "anti abortion" into the same group, because they're both "women's groups"

WhereProgressIsMade · 2023-07-16T22:25:28+00:00

What’s funny to me is sometimes you’ll get talking about how there are female only spaces in real life and not really man male only ones anymore.

Them: “so go make more male only spaces focused on guy stuff”.

Me: “There are tons of men’s forums popping up online.”

Them: “no, no, no. Not like that. We don’t like those. We’ll label them all misogynistic to try to get guys to not go.”

DTreatz · 2023-07-16T19:17:52+00:00

That's because they don't care.

It's not about discerning differences, its about what makes them feel right.

TradCons want whats best for society, not men, they're not the same thing.

MRAs want 'true equality' while more noble than the TradCons, they're also more delusional because that will never happen, so it's cope.

MGTs do whatever they please typically using red 💊 to maximize their life

InCels can't obtain sex and reproduction due to the natural disparity in polygyny that female biology causes between the genders, 80% of women can't be chasing 20% of men and society function, so the men in the middle (InCels) suffer.

WhereProgressIsMade · 2023-07-16T18:33:52+00:00

They don’t understand what it’s like to be attacked or dissed in all “normal” spheres of life so don’t understand that a lot of the appeal is to escape from that.

Edit: also you can’t complain in “normal” spheres because you just get canceled or worse.

mrmensplights · 2023-07-17T00:29:04+00:00

Political ideologues have an unfortunate tendency to strip away all nuance and complexity in order to distort all input to conform to their twisted world view. For feminists, this is especially true with any group who is critical of feminism or is simply not anti-male enough. To them, all those groups just become one indistinguishable tar and feathered morass they can call enemy: "Male."

Njaulv · 2023-07-16T21:55:36+00:00

It's a demonization technique. Lump all of these groups together and call them all misogynists or worse because some from one of the groups are rather unhinged. It's like how Fox news people call all people on the left liberals, when there are huge differences between say liberals, democrats, and far-left progressives or intersectional feminists.

g1455ofwater · 2023-07-16T22:06:04+00:00

Why is that disgusting? All three groups are unfairly discriminated against and hated for being men. I'd say the far bigger issue is the abuse MRAs, incels and MGTOW take from feminists or anyone else than someone not know the difference between the groups.

Blauwpetje · 2023-07-17T17:22:52+00:00

‘Incel’ can mean three different things. 1. The neutral, technical meaning: Men who long for (hetero)sexual contacts but can’t get them. Feminists can’t imagine that those are good men, for that would give them a bad conscience, they’d rather complain about the scarcity of good men. 2. Men on unwholesome pages on the internet thinking nothing of themselves and hating women. Feminists love to confuse this group and the first one. 3. Men disagreeing with feminists, especially around dating and sexuality issues. Instead of discussing in a fair way, feminists love getting personal and say: you just think that way because you’re an incel, you should look at yourself. In daily use of the word, those three meanings are often used at once and mixed up all the time. Let’s avoid doing that here.

Our_media_lies · 2023-07-17T07:55:06+00:00

If mgtow was gender reversed the mainstream media would be praising it and writing articles about how men are so bad women have given up on them. As for incels i don’t know much about them but you cdd as not call them all terrorists because of the action of a small number of people who identified with that label.

frankieche · 2023-07-17T07:56:46+00:00

You’re assuming they have the same critical thinking skills like men do.

PeonSupremeReturns · 2023-07-17T21:23:56+00:00

Why are we abbreviating an abbreviation now?

AirSailer · 2023-07-17T02:02:26+00:00

Why are you saying that migtau and MRA are vastly different? Can a man be a migtau and support men's rights? I don't want anything to do with woman outside of family, and I am a big MRA supporter, to the point of arguing with many of my feminist family members about it.

MicrosoftOSX · 2023-07-17T02:22:48+00:00

Just tell them theyre wrong and uneducated like what the do to people describing them in ways they dont agree with.

Darth_Humorous · 2023-07-17T16:35:38+00:00

Honestly which male rights group is not considered an incel group by feminists or the feminist mainstream media ?

Male rights groups are antithetical to what feminism is. For a feminist you're either a feminist and follow what they say or you're an incel. That's just how it is.

MISOGYNISTIC-ANIMAL · 2023-07-17T20:38:25+00:00

I HATE A CERTAIN TYPE OF WAHMAN.

SmellyGoat11 · 2023-07-17T01:17:46+00:00

It's because it's easy to harbor a resentment towards women. A good woman is a symptom of a good life lived as a man.

This sub isn't r/incels, but when the top comment is just blackpilling and insinuating that zero women are sane and rational beings saying "don't marry," and shit... You really can't blame people for seeing the crabs-in-a-bucket blackpill women-will-ruin-your-life mentality in both communities and making a stupid equivalence. You're really just giving assholes ammo when you talk like that.

Tanman55555 · 2023-07-17T03:37:44+00:00

Its called not fucking having a life and arguing about stupid stuff online

Historical_Luck3576 · 2023-07-17T18:00:18+00:00

What is MOW?

Guyonstockmarket · 2023-07-17T19:05:42+00:00

tbh I don’t see why you would want to be mgtow or wgtow if you don’t mind telling me the reason why you are that please tell me

TinyTwinz3D · 2023-07-20T15:19:48+00:00

Well, considering MGTOW started as MRAs that gave up ever achieving political ends, I'd say they're pretty intimately connected. Incels (TFLers) just sort of attached themselves to MGTOW.

Basically, they ARE related.

More importantly, why do you seek to separate yourself?

Afraid of looking bad?

Falling for divide and conquer tactics is not what men should do.

Title	MRA’s and m**ow
Author	LocksmithBig4103
Upvotes	61
Comments	39
Date	July 16, 2023 6:13 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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