Must Chivalry Die?

deltron80 · 2012-09-29T21:28:04+00:00

Ok so...women are helped and given everything they need...and this shows they are "devalued?!" I wish people would start devaluing me sometime.

retskcirt1 · 2012-09-29T21:10:06+00:00

As with most gender relations, the problem lies in the power differential. The woman may be on the pedestal, having doors opened, chairs pulled out, and meals paid for. But actually it is patriarchy that is asserting its power. How? Simple. The woman may be on the pedestal, but it is the privilege of men that has put her there.

Dat Logic

fleetofrobots · 2012-09-29T22:26:47+00:00

Women are specifically targeted for rape and sexual assault and other forms of gender based violence, most especially during times of war.

Oh yeah? And who, pray tell, is targeted by non-sexual violence the most, and which group tend to bear the most total violence in war? I don't want to be raped, but I'd rather be raped than murdered!

Women’s health needs globally are far greater than men’s as maternal death rates and reproductive health is rivaled by nothing that affects men at that breadth and scope.

Work-related injury and death? Nevermind males have a much higher rate of incidences of both cancer and heart disease and more men die from both than women.

Also, the subtext of the website's name "transforming your life through feminism" makes it sound like a fucking cult workshop, more on-the-nose than the author would probably like.

samuelbt · 2012-09-29T19:10:50+00:00

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loose-dendrite · 2012-09-29T21:26:20+00:00

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misandry_doesnt_real · 2012-09-29T16:16:19+00:00

It's funny because feminism would've never picked up speed had it not been for chivalrous men in power giving them what they asked for just because they were women.

MRB2012 · 2012-09-29T19:19:13+00:00

Chivalry does not need to die. It was stillborn. The knights of the middle ages- who chivalry was designed for- did not care much for it.

typhonblue · 2012-09-30T01:06:51+00:00

Which is exactly why chivalry is dangerous. Because it blankets itself as courtesy while concealing a dramatic assertion of inequality between the sexes. There’s no way around it – chivalry is about viewing women as fragile, delicate creatures who need special protection, special consideration, and special treatment. Chivalry sets women upon a pedestal.

A more powerful force for maintaining feminine weakness is female victimry.

RedditBlueit · 2012-09-29T16:12:24+00:00

Love this part:

Which is exactly why chivalry is dangerous. Because it blankets itself as courtesy while concealing a dramatic assertion of inequality between the sexes. There’s no way around it – chivalry is about viewing women as fragile, delicate creatures who need special protection, special consideration, and special treatment. Chivalry sets women upon a pedestal.

Nice place to start a discussion, despite the use of the P word.

C0CKPUNCHER · 2012-09-29T17:24:24+00:00

Narrative 'proves' everything.

2012-09-29T17:56:16+00:00

Yep. Replace it with treating all others regardless of their gender or yours with courtesy and nobody has any legitimate grounds to complain of it being gone. I never will get the whole obsession with chivalry thing no matter who happens to be taking a position on it or what side of whatever belief fence he or she is on.

Cheimon · 2012-09-29T22:36:48+00:00

Really people? Are you so blind that you can't understand this?

TL;DR in the past chivalry became ingrained as a response to women being weaker than men. Now that they reach a position of relative equality, this should end, as it implies a weakness on women's parts that is somewhat insulting and not borne out by reality.

roharareddit · 2012-09-29T17:05:42+00:00

Another diluted feminist

FireTruth · 2012-09-29T19:33:42+00:00

Chivarly by deffition gives special treatment to 1 gender over another.... that is sexist.

back when there was no technology to help women they depended much more on men to assit them with more basic tasks.....

it was also perhaps a mark of respect, back then women also respected men after all.... most understood the value of work men did as it was not hidden by the walls of modern life... even though men still do most of the providing.

either way Chilvery is not just out dated, but also counter-productive to an equal socicty... not to mention many women seem programed to treat nice guys bad and sleep with the bad boys (and the reasons seem to go deep for why that is)

Title	Must Chivalry Die?
Author	RedditBlueit
Upvotes	21
Comments	41
Date	September 29, 2012 4:09 PM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/10o5ug/must_chivalry_die/
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