No fault divorce

Holiday-Somewhere-96 · 2023-06-01T02:50:39+00:00

No fault divorce is a good thing in my opinion. I should not need a reason to not want to be with someone anymore

duhhhh · 2023-06-01T03:01:48+00:00

I believe in the ability to get a divorce with no fault. I have a problem that fault doesn't heavily influence child custody and alimony. If you cheat or abuse, you shouldn't be rewarded for it. If your spouse cheated on or abused you, you shouldn't be penalized for it for decades to come.

Active-Razzmatazz-86 · 2023-06-01T04:13:25+00:00

No fault divorce benefits only women.They can leave with your assets just bcz they felt bored

Fuzzy_Department2799 · 2023-06-01T13:21:28+00:00

They are phrasing it as an attack on women which is only true if women cant get divorced from abusers or other bad actors. That is not true at all. They are doing this because it takes away a persons ability to just leave because they decided they wanted a change and will be happier elsewhere and then financially benefit from breaking the contract. Marriage is the only legally binding contract in the world where one party can break the contract and get financially awarded for it. Getting rid of no fault divorce does one thing and one thing only. Holds everyone accountable for their decisions. That is why they consider it an attack. No more days of cheating at will and getting half of everything they may or may not have worked for. No more days of being financially irresponsible and still demanding the partner pays all your bills. It actually re-instates a level of equality back into divorce proceedings.

Hitman322 · 2023-06-02T02:22:32+00:00

My favorite is when one cheats, and let's be honest, it's generally a buildup to that point, the cheater can file divorce for no fault, or irreconcilable differences. But you're not allowed to bring up the lying, cheating, endangering kids, spending shared monies irresponsibly, stealing/destroying property, masturbating while driving, and driving wrecklessly while having the kids in the car. If you do, the very fact that spouse cheated almost certainly protects her as you may be perceived as the jilted or jealous husband. It's a HUUUUGE loophole, and all lawyers know how to use it. It doesn't benefit the defendant, and it definitely doesn't benefit kids. It's designed to benefit one particular individual to the extreme detriment of all else.

Simply throw truth, facts, and evidence out the window. In fact, be prepared to be accused of the worst behaviors perpuated against you by your spouse.

Realistic_Practice16 · 2023-06-01T02:58:15+00:00

No fault divorce is bullshit. There’s always a reason and usually somebody did something wrong. With no fault, someone could cheat and leave and still get alimony.

Throning · 2023-06-01T04:13:46+00:00

So, on the one hand, no one should be held or kept in a relationship they don't want.

But on the other hand, if that's what they want to do, they shouldn't swear upon their soul to cherish and to love, in sickness and in health, for better or worse, that they will abide by marriage.

Something's gotta give between those two - either stop getting married, flat out, because you don't want to get trapped in a relationship you no longer want; OR; actually uphold the vow you swore by. The only other alternative would be to change the circumstances of marriage - which happens anyway with common-law marriages that don't even need a ceremony, just some 3 months or (arbitrary time) living together for them to potentially take half your shit.

As a general thing - divorce laws/courts need to slow down if not stop extorting money/resources from men. No Fault divorces give an "easy out" for women to exploit the system and extort money from their ex-husband. That's the part that needs fixed - No Fault Divorces are "okay enough", what actually needs to be fixed is the divorce resolution screwing men over unfairly, given how "strong and independent" those same women are. It's a sign of hypocrisy that they aren't strong or independent, if those ex-wives require the alimony of their ex's to survive.

TooMuchToThinkToday · 2023-06-01T11:46:22+00:00

A no fault divorce like any other law passed benefits women only. That's how it rolls

phoenician_anarchist · 2023-06-01T16:45:29+00:00

No fault divorce removes the meaning and purpose of marriage.

Requiring a reason does not mean that divorce is prohibited, for example, in the UK (up until recently) there were a specific set of reasons for which a divorce could be granted; basically, if they broke the vows, you could divorce them. These reasons included every reason why people claim we "need" no-fault divorce aside from just not wanting to be married any more.

It's presented as a "women's rights" issue but, as usual, it's not about rights but power, control, and privilege.

Rude_Shock343 · 2023-06-01T18:13:07+00:00

Fine, so long as1) no maintenance/aliminy and 2) people are able to contract around it and legally able to hold the other party to their promise.

current no fault divorce sets a clear moral hazard. Its the equiluvent of letting a purchaser reneg on a vehicle purachse and requiring the dealer to pay the purchaser to obtain alternative means of transport.

Wylanderuk · 2023-06-01T13:10:05+00:00

Well in theory in fault divorce is a good thing and getting rid of it would be bad.

In practice? Would not make a fucking bit of difference for men IMO. A better change would be keep it and remove any claim for alimony if its used and add a alimony penalty if false accusations are used in a divorce proceeding.

Zestyclose-Repair-86 · 2023-06-01T02:38:05+00:00

Context ?

Title	No fault divorce
Author	United_Reality4157
Upvotes	3
Comments	42
Date	June 1, 2023 2:36 AM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/13x5yb1/no_fault_divorce/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/no-fault-divorce.1220915 https://theredarchive.com/post/1220915

Comments