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Please stop linking to hate subreddits. This only helps them.

goodmod · 2019-05-07T02:00:04+00:00

Don't even mention their names. If a subreddit exists purely for the purpose of vilifying men, it's a troll sub that wants you to be enraged and to...

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May 7, 2019

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Title	Please stop linking to hate subreddits. This only helps them.
Author	goodmod
Upvotes	99
Comments	33
Date	May 7, 2019 2:00 AM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/mensrights/comments/blkwed/please-stop-linking-to-hate-subreddits-this-only-/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/please-stop-linking-to-hate-subreddits-this-only.1626411 https://theredarchive.com/post/1626411

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[–]tenchineuro21 points 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

[–]AEHIILRS5 points 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

[–]DJ-Roukan4 points 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I think the intention is a very good one, but I tend not to agree, well, with the entirety. There are some that we can do without, and I'm all for not providing links to them in order to gain them traffic. If that is the gist here, I agree.

However, with citing them here as examples of hate?

We are not helping them, or publicizing them. They get plenty of that in the general media. We are exposing them.

Ignoring feminism is exactly why we are in the situation we are in, as most people that think feminism is a good thing have not read their truth, descended into the bowels of their ideology, but have just been exposed to their misrepresentations such as "we do not hate men", or, "all we want is equality among the sexes".

This place is not about action, but awareness. When people come here and read or see the links, they see the reality, the lies, they also see and read the comments exposing the truth. Posting a meme of some radical feminist crazy calling for the castration of all men is presented in order to validate our claims that they are typically hate groups. Posting signs and symbols demonstrating their goal of domination, and how they have affected the general public, do not give them traction, but punch holes in their tires.

Here we post about the problems we face, the discrimination, the hate. On those subs they post little more than hate for us and all men.

It is why I do not argue talking points with radical feminist, but utilize the conversation to expose them for others to see, to experience their illogical arguments and hate.

Just my opinion among many.

(edited for clarity)

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Censorship does nothing except increase extremism, free speech and debate helps to get rid of it, I refuse to be a part of this kind of cowardice. If your ideas are solid and grounded in rationality then you shouldn't have anything to worry about when arguing with these morons.

You're trying to prevent discussion about certain topics or subs that you don't like, that's called censorship, honestly, fuck off.

I really have to question the motives of someone who's against "don't feed the trolls" and "fact-check before posting".

This isn't about fact checking or anything like that and you know it, if you bothered to read my previous post properly you'd recognise I'm against people trying to prevent discussion on topics just because they're lazy cunts or because it makes them feel uncomfortable.

As for the actual subs themselves that pull this crap, nobody is forcing you to click on threads that discuss them, you're being ridiculous.

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[–]SirKolbath7 points 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

You do realize that there are a growing number of people who think this is a hate sub, right? That’s the problem with these ridiculous labels. You use it to start describing somebody else because you don’t like what they have to say. Nothing prevents them from turning around and saying the same thing about you.

Then it turns into a popularity contest. Or, worse the loudest mouths and the squeakiest wheels are the ones who get their way and suddenly we find ourselves being silenced simply because we complain less. That is one of the reasons why conservatives are being silenced on social media. When we find someone who irritates us we simply block them. When liberals find somebody who irritates them, usually because they’ve used facts and logic, they go whining to admin and have the offender removed.

I said exactly what I meant. There is no such thing as hate speech and there is no such thing as a hate subreddit or a hatereddit. There are subreddits here that will block you because you post in a sub they have declared to be a hatereddit. That is what happens when you start throwing these labels around.

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My point was that 'there is no hate subs or hate speech' is an incredibly naive statement, almost as if you've never been on reddit before.

If what someone says about men cuts you that deeply the problem is with you.

This may come as a complete and total shock to you but the Westborough Baptist Church it actually has a right to do the things that they do. No, I don’t agree with them.

Your statements say that if they say that gay people are evil, should be killed to burn in hell, that they're right and you should just stop being gay, as the problem is with the gay person if they are offended by this.

start acting like a man

You first.

I think you’re a complete buffoon.

Thats fine, you want to hate me for me, cool, i will not apologize. But of people hate me for what i am and cannot change, like being a man, that irritates me, especially when they are given a free pass, or encouragement to say such things. Ignoring it would be burying your head in the sand, and historically if everyone does that, bad things happen.

[–]SirKolbath-1 point 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

My point was that ‘there is no hate subs or hate speech’ is an incredibly naive statement, almost as if you’ve never been on reddit before.

Your lack of understanding doesn’t make my point naive. If you think you’re going to last a single day on Reddit without seeing something that offends you then I think you’re the naïf here. I literally see something childish, stupid, or both every time I open the goddamn app. It’s called life and I am damn sure not going to let it dictate my emotional state.

Your statements say that if they say that gay people are evil, should be killed to burn in hell, that they’re right and you should just stop being gay, as the problem is with the gay person if they are offended by this.

Yes. That is exactly what I am saying. Do you think they are going to stop believing this or stop saying this just because a gay person gets offended? You total and utter dipshit!

That is why they are saying it! They want to hurt gays and they can’t do it physically because they’ll land in jail, so they do it emotionally.

You know what happens when the Westborough Baptist Church gets talked about? They get fucking ridiculed. You know what happens when people don’t ignore them but also don’t let them control the narrative? People come together to stop them.

start acting like a man

You first.

News flash, kid, men do not let other people control their feelings. That’s what little boys and women do. You’re freaking out because someone on reddit might say something you don’t like, to the point of trying to lecture someone who is clearly better at and more understanding of online mediums than you are.

What you are doing is in no way approaching anything manly, or even mature.

Thats fine, you want to hate me for me, cool, i will not apologize.

This is part of your problem. I think you’re an idiot who is overly emotional and consumed with what others may possibly say about him. In your mind that means I “hate” you.

I don’t hate you. I actually don’t give two shits about you. Hate is an attracting force. The opposite of love isn’t hate, it is indifference. After I send this message I’m not going to think of you ever again unless you insist on replying with something else stupid, in which case I’ll probably just block you without reading it because you have already demonstrated that you’re not worth any more of my finite time on this earth.

But of people hate me for what i am and cannot change, like being a man, that irritates me, especially when they are given a free pass, or encouragement to say such things.

They aren’t going to go away because you’re too childish to mention the name of a subreddit where they hang out. Jesus Christ, even Dumbledore was smart enough to take away Voldemort’s power by saying his name.

Ignoring it would be burying your head in the sand, and historically if everyone does that, bad things happen.

So you’re saying we should not avoid naming subreddits where people say mean things about us? Because that is what ignoring it does. You literally just made my argument for me. This entire thread started because someone said we should bury our heads in the sand and stop talking about “hatereddits” where people say things that are mean about us instead of confronting such things head on and addressing them. You decided to say something truly asinine to me and got your nose rubbed in it, and your response is to agree with my premise.

Well done. I knew you’d see it my way eventually. We should pay attention to subs and people who hate us, but we should not let them dictate our emotional state.

Thanks for taking my side.