RationalWiki, I am disappoint

jmnzz · 2011-07-16T08:36:08+00:00

I like how every time men's rights is listed it is listed with quotation marks as if the rights of men are a joke while feminism is blasted across both the MRM and feminism page as the be all end all solution for inequality.

I also like how they shrug off the bigotry they chose to list for feminism by pulling the "radicals did it" knee-jerk defense...every...single...time they mention any reason someone should have a legitimate criticism about feminism.

Oh and I just love how they throw everyone in the MRM into the "right wing nut" category.

Let's see;

Lies?

Check.

Misrepresentation?

Check.

Deflection?

Check.

More lies?

Check...gee...I wonder if a feminist typed up the MRM and feminism pages?

Hypersapien · 2011-07-16T08:12:49+00:00

Dude, it's a wiki. Edit it.

docsquidly · 2011-07-16T17:20:25+00:00

This article's example of a "good" men's rights group is The Good Men Foundation which has the Good Men Project, a site that essentially a front for feminist shills.

So, their idea of a "good" MRA is one who panders to feminist.

If you want a prime example what I mean check out the post titled, I May Have a Son, but I’ll Never Know for Sure, if you haven't already.

ignatiusloyola · 2011-07-16T12:45:46+00:00

That was a severely biased description, clearly written for discrediting the movement.

SharkSpider · 2011-07-16T17:39:42+00:00

The only part of that page that even remotely approaches doing the movement justice is the one listing the major claims. That's strong evidence of generalization, in the sense that inability to debate point by point often leads to appeals to the general nature of what someone is saying.

Ie. they can't win a rational argument against an MRM about any of the points we really care about, so they just call us all misogynists.

Also, someone ought to point out that the good men project is actually just a feminist group.

A_Nihilist · 2011-07-16T07:58:00+00:00

As expected, their page on feminism is starry-eyed pandering.

felzix · 2011-07-16T14:05:34+00:00

The thing about the skeptics and "rational" movements is that you will quickly find that they are so wrapped up in dogma that they are not very flexible in encountering ideas that contradict preconceived viewpoints. They will roll their eyes at men's rights because it contradicts feminism (really it only contradicts an extreme view) because this is what they learned in school and what they see as the rational viewpoint. Believe it or not you'll find some of the same mockery directed against certain theories in quantum mechanics by the skeptics movement.

It is a shame that the rational wiki entry is so biased, but honestly from years of interacting with skeptic groups I can tell you that I am not surprised. There is as much dogma and group think amongst them as the irrational movements they complain about.

womblefish · 2011-07-16T09:04:31+00:00

Hey Kloo, do you remember in another thread where I said if you identify yourself as "anti" in the motto, you'll be dismissed as "reactionary".

From the wiki page:

"The men's rights movement is a backlash against some of the advances made by feminism"

barbadosslim · 2011-07-16T12:18:14+00:00

Reverse racism is a snarl word generally employed by right-wing ideologues and white nationalists,

What is ... I don't ... what?

Dr. Thomas Sowell, Affirmative Action Around the World. Read it. Understand it.

Laatuska · 2011-07-16T20:22:52+00:00

I'd leave it as is. I think that article portraits feminism rather nicely.

2011-07-16T23:35:30+00:00

There is a small minority of so called men's rights people whose quotes are the main enemy of the men's movement.

therealbarackobama · 2011-07-16T18:40:52+00:00

here's my take on the situation.

I registered and edited the men's rights webpage to this,

http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Men%27s_rights_movement&oldid=832488

This gave a more accurate portrayal of men's rights and left in the feminist warning that we are secret misogynists who want to force women back into the kitchen.

It was immediately reverted back to it's original form.

I wondered if I had hit some kind of automatic filter so reverted it again being careful to leave a message why the alteration had been done and a longer explanation in the talk page.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Men%27s_rights_movement#does_not_accurately_reflect_the_views_and_ideas_of_the_men.27s_rights_movement

The mod's have now locked the page to prevent any further edits from men's rights activists.

Typical idiots who have drunk the feminist cool aide.

It's pretty annoying to be treated as a enemy by these people. I'm an egalitarian who believes in equal rights for everyone, I'm pro-gay marriage, I'm a atheist, rationalist and a socialist. And I'm considered a reactionary conservative because I believe that men should have equal rights as well as women.

It's just an example of how some liberals are only liberal if you agree with everything they say. You don't have to stray far from the hivemind for them to stop being liberal.

felzix · 2011-07-19T07:22:49+00:00

There is a great deal of opinion on that piece. Not exactly rational.

Title	RationalWiki, I am disappoint
Author	A_Nihilist
Upvotes	18
Comments	38
Date	July 16, 2011 7:57 AM UTC (15 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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