Really?

chavelah · 2012-07-04T19:22:44+00:00

It's porn, folks. No good has ever come from over-analyzing porn.

Alexis_ · 2012-07-04T19:05:52+00:00

The debate: Is the submissive relationship seen in 50 Shades of Grey degrading to women?

Hey maybe it is, but a few million women still found it hot. If they want to degrade themselves, then what's wrong with that?

RawrCola · 2012-07-04T19:07:18+00:00

So now novels written for women by a woman are degrading to women? The world is a confusing place.

Tlaloc1979 · 2012-07-04T23:32:14+00:00

You can say BDSM is misogynistic but that would be ignoring all the people that go for the opposite gender spectrum; female Dominates, male submissive, and the entire transgender community there it. There's adults expressing themselves consensually how they so desire.

I find it absurd the feminists, a group build on the idea of "we don't want to be treat this way" now want to preach to others how they should treat each other while offering absurd, ignorant, outdated, and resentful views of how men look at women. And it's not like they even offer any alternatives either to how women and men should interact, or at least that's how its seems to me.

craigske · 2012-07-04T20:20:32+00:00

WTF does this have to do with MR?

2012-07-05T03:29:21+00:00

People are fucking idiots. I am actually rather sexually submissive and have done BDSM. This stuff was never "degrading" to me.

This is really a person's rights issue since both men and women enjoy BDSM. However the MRA should take the reasonable stance. Feminism has really done alot to demonize the BDSM community for no reason. For a party committed to "helping" women they have hurt many women who do not agree with them.

saturdayd · 2012-07-05T07:21:16+00:00

The most degrading themes in these books were found underneath the extraordinarily unrealistic "mommy porn". Femenists have stated that these books are are for female sexuality but overlook the underlying theme of a weak female "protaganist" acting like a spoiled 8 year old who needs to be coddled by a mythical "freakin' hot" 20-something year old billionare who finds her endearing because she looks like his "crack whore" mother. It isn't healthy for women to want to essentially revert back to children, waiting for a man who doesn't exist (who is also fundamentally broken and needs to be fixed) to come around and save them. The BDSM was just a side note as far as I was concerned. I died a little after reading these books.

mashan · 2012-07-04T20:21:41+00:00

Can't one say all of BDSM is degrading to women then?

altmehere · 2012-07-04T21:05:51+00:00

Good. If they start applying their morality to women as well, perhaps those women will start to realize the problems with it.

BinaryShadow · 2012-07-05T07:22:18+00:00

Anything that involves a woman not being 100% in charge will be seen as "degrading to women" by some nut. The same nut that probably gets off on the same stuff with the genders reversed.

Title	Really?
Author	Austiniodore
Upvotes	17
Comments	16
Date	July 4, 2012 5:37 PM UTC (14 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/w1fb2/really/
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