Toxic masculinity: Will the 'war on men' only backfire?

LucifersHammerr · 2017-01-29T04:21:06+00:00

"We are living in a world which is globalised and multicultural and diverse and [many white working class men in the US] are really struggling with a loss of power" and a sense that "they don't own the world anymore", Professor Lumby said.

Jesus. This person is a professor? The good professor needs to read a basic history book. The average white working man has never had any "power" to speak of. I mean go back to the 19th or early 20th centuries and you find white men consistently being brutalized and even murdered by private detectives and police just for trying to form unions. Only two percent of American white men owned slaves. Irish Americans were actually given the most dangerous jobs because blacks were considered valuable property.

The other thread about the young college woman not wanting to shake a white man's hand is starting to make sense. These "professors" are evidently teaching a very skewed if not outright false version of history.

Will the war on men backfire? Yes. You can either stop with the feminist bullshit, treat men fairly and with respect, and give men equal rights or men are going to react in unpredictable and possibly violent ways. You can only whip a dog so many times before it bites.

MisterDamage · 2017-01-29T04:52:44+00:00

"I think some men push back [against the idea of toxic masculinity] because they don't hear the message of hope and support that is in that critique ... that men themselves will benefit from abandoning toxic masculinity.

This is why it is a war on men and why it can only backfire. The message here is not one of hope, it is one of hate. As a man, I must abandon toxic masulinity... as if I had toxic masculinity in the first place.

If I were to say the same about muslims or black people, he would quite rightly immediately recognize and reject the hatred and bigotry. Unsurprisingly, men recognize hatred and bigotry when we see it too.

Ultramegasaurus · 2017-01-29T09:29:39+00:00

Generally used to denote how some aspects of masculinity — such as entitlement[...]

How could entitlement be, in any way or form, an aspect of typical masculinity? If there is one cornerstone of masculinity, it's having to work for everything. Not even violent thugs think they "deserve" anything.

Entitlement is an aspect of feminity. Women feel entitled to protection, resources, labor, respect and adoration - no matter if they label themselves conservative or feminist. The former want it from their husbands and male relatives, the latter want it from the state and society at large.

FuckURedditor · 2017-01-29T08:24:33+00:00

I just refuse to listen to anything anyone who uses terms like 'toxic masculinity' has to say.

They never turn that critical lens of female behaviors, only male ones.

NickSuccorso · 2017-01-29T07:11:35+00:00

The article seems like the left is trying to appeal to the MRM following the Trump victory. As if after all the shit that has been dumped on men they suddenly need us as allies. They lost me as an ally following the Toronto protest incident, but I didn't run to the right; just went centre.

ticktockaudemars · 2017-01-29T07:01:59+00:00

Backfire? Yes, and his name is Trump

ThePigmanAgain · 2017-01-29T09:05:41+00:00

"Will"? If Trump's victory is anything to go by, it already has! Hell, even most of the white women voted for Cheeto. If that isn't a sign that both sexes have had enough of the feminist shit, what is?

Arthas_Greyjoy · 2017-01-29T07:24:33+00:00

Damage control bullshit. They're just trying to "reconcile" their thoughts about what the hell happened over the past year and a half, but they don't really care either way. They're just gonna go back to the old ways of screaming at their opposition.

double-happiness · 2017-01-29T12:22:59+00:00

gender-bending artists David Bowie and Prince

There's a big difference between the likes of Bowie and Prince from most men - those guys were pop star celebrities! It reminds me of an actual Morrissey quote about Prince - "if he'd been from Wigan he'd be dead by now".

Relatedly I'd say women are a damn sight more tolerant of that kind of gender role fludity in pop celebrities than they are in real life. As a low socioeconomic status male raised by a single mother my general aim is to become as masculine as I possibly can, not blur the boundaries. I tend to think women are likely to 'friendzone' me if I display feminine traits.

iongantas · 2017-01-29T07:55:14+00:00

"Generally used to denote how some aspects of masculinity — such as entitlement, homophobia and sexual aggressiveness"

What if I told you, these aren't aspects of masculinity, nor specific to it.

thrway_1000 · 2017-01-29T16:30:07+00:00

https://archive.is/WT4Js

andejoh · 2017-01-29T22:13:17+00:00

"After all, I got six sisters. I had to do this."

Because they would have beat his ass if he didn't?

"Still, she thinks the backlash against it is symptomatic of a broader anxiety among white men, many of whom are currently grappling with challenges such as unemployment and the loss of identity that can trigger — issues Mr Trump has promised he will address as President.

"We are living in a world which is globalised and multicultural and diverse and [many white working class men in the US] are really struggling with a loss of power" and a sense that "they don't own the world anymore", Professor Lumby said. "

So at what point will people no longer talk about them being privileged? This is another case of fauxgressives talking out of both sides of their mouths.

Title	Toxic masculinity: Will the 'war on men' only backfire?
Author	patcomen
Upvotes	118
Comments	75
Date	January 29, 2017 3:50 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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