Vice attacks CAFEs billboard campaign. Its laughable article and tries to insinuate this billboard is anti-feminist. any one with eyes can see its not.

5HourEnergyExtra · 2015-03-14T20:33:03+00:00

Rumour has it that if you stare at it long enough, ten dudes wearing "#meninist" sweatshirts will drop from the sky and yell at you about how the pay gap is a liberal myth.

I don't have a meninist sweatshirt but I'll still be happy to be the first of these ten.

http://www.consad.com/content/reports/Gender%20Wage%20Gap%20Final%20Report.pdf

The Canadian Association for Equality (CAFE) unveiled its latest symptom of delusion in the form of 4-by-14-metre billboard. The ad features an enraged woman screaming at a cowering man while telling us in mismatched font: "HALF of domestic violence victims are men.

In case anyone's doubting this, here are some sources:

21.45% of couples reported violence. Male-to-female violence was reported in 13.66% of couples, while 18.20% for female-to-male violence. Thus, women are 1.33 times as likely to be violent. (Severe violence only raises this ratio to more than 2x as likely.)

Almost 24% of all relationships had some violence, and half (49.7%) of those were reciprocally violent. In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases.

Social approval of male-to-female violence has significantly dropped over 40 years, while approval of female-to-male violence remains steady. Overall, female-to-male violence has risen while male-to-female violence rates have remained constant or decreased (depending on type.

This bibliography examines 286 scholarly investigations: 221 empirical studies and 65 reviews and/or analyses, which demonstrate that women are as physically aggressive, or more aggressive, than men in their relationships with their spouses or male partners. The aggregate sample size in the reviewed studies exceeds 371,600.

Girls are 1.38x more physically aggressive in teen violent relationships.

"Women are more likely than men to initiate violence in their relationships and are more likely to be aggressive more frequently”. He addresses the myth that women are only violent in self-defense. “29% of female college students admitted to physically attacking their boyfriends when no threat was perceived.”

Male victims more likely (54% of cases) to be arrested for DV than their abuser

This blatant male-shaming was simply too much for the good folks at the Canadian Association for Equality, who immediately slammed the campaign for being sexist and harmful. In its claim, the organization cites a 2009 Statistics Canada survey that presented almost equal rates of male and female spousal abuse. But the group omitted key information from the same survey, which also states that women were seven times more likely to fear for their lives during these abusive encounters.

And this group is omitting other key factors such as that it's nearly impossible to get justice as a man and that the criminal charges he may face from getting abused can ruin his life. Moreover, it's omitting that women in general are much more likely to fear for their lives or take threats seriously than men. For instance, women tend to fear going outside at night more than men even though men face significantly more violence than women.

Premier Wynne's campaign is focusing on common situations where Ontarians—particularly young Ontarians—can make a difference. Despite what MRAs would like you to believe, women are still the overwhelming victims of technology-based abuse,

Actually not true. Christina Hoff Sommers has several great videos touching on the topic. Men tend to face at least as much abuse as women but women tend to be more offended and report it more.

workplace harassment

Anyone here have info on how hard it is to get harassment suffered by men taken seriously? Why would men report harassment?

and date rape

Interesting how they specify date rape. I'm not actually sure if it's true, but if it is then it's an outlier because men generally suffer more rape than women, at least in the US.

It's absolutely important not to diminish the experience of men who have suffered domestic violence but nowhere in Wynne's campaign does it do that. It's widely acknowledged, by many feminists in particular, that male abuse victims face a unique set of barriers imposed by a culture that still values hyper-masculinity and teaches men not to be victims.

Is it acknowledged or acted upon? Because lip service is worthless.

Predictably though, none of these larger cultural concerns about challenging masculinity are being addressed by the Men's Rights Movement

No, they aren't. We're much more concerned with rights than this post-structural bullshit. Besides, talk of masculinity tends to be done by people like Michael Kimmel who we don't like. Although if anyone's interested, /u/girlwriteswhat has some pretty good youtube videos on the topic.

In this dramatic CAFE video earnestly titled "The Disposable Man," we are faced with a man in some sort of torturous existential pain. He looks morose as the window of opportunity slams shut in his face through a series of vivid flashbacks. He ponders: That same window which opens with ease for so many others—women, minorities, gays, immigrants—why does the injustice of life keep it closed for him? He'll never know.

I initially assumed the video was a satire pointing out the absurdity of portraying a well-dressed white guy as society's most vulnerable member. But I've quickly learned that the Men's Rights Movements knows no bounds when selling its victim-complex doctrine to its members.

Yes, this is roughly what I meant when talking about why we don't talk about masculinity with these fuckheads.

They're implying that they believe women are excited, aroused even, when they are berating a man. It's a subtle but highly misogynistic message that paints women as sadistic, domineering, and downright cruel.

Wait what? Where is this message?

Typically, grand overtures are the hallmark of movements that are in trouble. And if CAFE's latest billboard tells us anything about the future of the MRA movement in Canada, it's that they're desperately craving attention.

Well, I do want exposure...

I predict we'll return to the corner of Avenue and Davenport and laugh hysterically about the time a bunch of dudes tried to convince us that the greatest threat to Canadian men was women.

Is that what the billboard said? I thought it just said that some women, notably spouses, victimize men and that the issue needs attention.

thrway_1000 · 2015-03-14T19:05:36+00:00

https://archive.today/ELcGN

iN00Briated · 2015-03-15T01:07:34+00:00

"...anti-feminist."

Who the hell cares if it's anti-feminist?

Timotheusss · 2015-03-15T01:32:48+00:00

The female "abuser" is clearly not wearing a bra.

In other scenarios, that might not be a big deal (you do you girl), but it's obvious that in this case, the men at the CAFE are attempting to send a very clear message. They're implying that they believe women are excited, aroused even, when they are berating a man. It's a subtle but highly misogynistic message that paints women as sadistic, domineering, and downright cruel.

You heh WHAT? Even if the removal of the bra was a point being made, HOW THE FUCK DOES THAT EQUAL SEXUAL AROUSEL? What the actual fuck.

daktardoom · 2015-03-15T00:50:27+00:00

The comments on that article are dispicable. We should get that author fired from VICE.

Meto1183 · 2015-03-15T03:50:16+00:00

women were seven times more likely to fear for their lives during these abusive encounters

I don't have a statistic for it...but I'm pretty sure women are not 7 times more likely to be die from spousal abuse, because that statistic would be everywhere if they were. Why are feelings now taken as fact?

v8beetle · 2015-03-14T19:30:29+00:00

Well, think about your statement for a minute. If they're saying it's anti-feminist, yet the billboard shows a woman being violent. The implication then would be that women's use of violence is acceptable.

NUMBERS2357 · 2015-03-15T07:57:10+00:00

The thing saying that women are the overwhelming victims of "technology-based abuse" links to an article that says that studies show men are more likely to be harassed online (and then tries to explain it away, never producing its own statistics on the subject).

Azothlike · 2015-03-14T23:32:41+00:00

The author

I am so surprised.

ralphswanson · 2015-03-15T04:10:41+00:00

It's not anti-gender-equality feminist. It is anti-women-are-always-the-victims feminist. We now know which feminism Vice follows.

gprime · 2015-03-15T08:21:09+00:00

What else would you expect from Vice? The odd noteworthy embedded journalist aside, they really don't carry themselves as a credible entity. It is a bunch of Brooklyn hipsters ideologically more in sync with Mao than the average American, talking about whatever counterculture fad will score them the most cool points. Honestly, they should be viewed with the same disregard that we tend to view Jezebel with.

Arby01 · 2015-03-15T18:22:32+00:00

It's funny that they mock that video - existential pain shouldn't be addressed, I guess. Regardless of the fact that men make up 80% of suicides. Let's mock any attempt to address that.

Good feminist, fight those gender roles. You know, the ones where guys aren't allowed to express pain or need help.

Oh, whoops, sorry, for a moment I thought feminism was about equality and fighting gender roles. I just had to look at your behaviour to realize it's about supremacy and supporting/reinforcing and policing male gender roles that are beneficial to women.

Title	Vice attacks CAFEs billboard campaign. Its laughable article and tries to insinuate this billboard is anti-feminist. any one with eyes can see its not.
Author	wazzup987
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Date	March 14, 2015 6:37 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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