We need to talk

210101210 · 2021-11-30T12:22:40+00:00

it's because from an outside perspective people see us and extreme feminists as hate groups,

The people from an outside perspective which you are referring to associates anything negative to extremist feminists while they are associating a comment on an anonymous account found in this leniently moderated sub to MRAs.

You were the one who said they are seeing "us and extreme feminists as hate groups"

How can you not see that those people whom you are trying to impress would only agree with you if you are willing to do what they want. They aren't going to be satisfied with whatever you do.

Which is mostly what menslib is about and it would be better if you could go there instead of changing this sub.

You are easily coming across as a troll which other members of this sub have seen in mass numbers which is why the responses to your post weren't positive.

MRM was always a controversial thing. You aren't going to be seen in positive light. Unless you aren't doing what they want you to do, you would always be the same for them. Only their demands are going to increase.

Today it might be misogynistic comment posted by an anonymous account (which is completely valid). Tomorrow it would be no criticism of feminism and day after tomorrow "why do we need a sub for mens rights when we have feminism because feminism is for everyone."

mikesteane · 2021-11-30T10:30:17+00:00

Using paragraphs is also an effective tactic. It makes your comments readable and suggests that you are not a lunatic venting without pausing for breath.

MutantKeyboard · 2021-11-30T09:41:56+00:00

I'm with you.

I've looked at a number of Mens Rights groups on a number of social media platforms and many of them can be just as militant as some of the feminist groups that we're against.

I want to further the cause of men and their rights, but in the correct way. There is no place for insults and complaining anywhere in society, why should it be here.

helicoprion08 · 2021-11-30T12:03:27+00:00

I genuinely don't understand why this is such a controversial opinion, if you treat someone with respect and civility no matter how they treat you it shows you have a better character and are a better person that can take the high road without resorting to insults, and people will join us if they see we are nicer and more civilized and respectful then the feminist movement

I would genuinely appreciate if someone could explain why so many are opposed to this idea because I genuinely don't understand

reddut_gang · 2021-12-01T23:00:21+00:00

Like I said in your last post, people will see what they want to see. I open up this subreddit and see posts highlighting systematic misandry left and right with a couple of dating angst posts sprinkled in and quite a few anti-feminist posts. Why? I want to see the systematic misandry and the anti-feminist posts. I want to tune out the dating angst posts because I don't care about them. Likewise, these people don't care about systematic misandry or the flaws of feminism. They want to see misogyny, so they will only see misogyny. Even there is none, they will make it so. 99% of the misogynistic comments on this subreddit are 2 day old accounts who only post here. Those is very likely a troll trying to make us look bad to get banned.

The comment had zero upvotes in the screenshot OP. It wasn't them who downvoted it. They saw the comment and want it to represent us all because they are against the notion of men's rights. Just talk to one of them and ask what their thoughts of the concept are. It's always a dismissive, minimizing, and victim-blaming attitude.

EnvironmentalWar4627 · 2021-11-30T10:11:54+00:00

When there is 300 upvotes on a comment saying women as a whole like the power to destroy men, you can tell that this sub has shifted from mens rights to gender war.

Clearly people see women as the enemy instead of society and that's when a sub goes from support group to hate group.

In fact, a post titled women are not the enemy, got 0 upvotes

When half the posts are just women being jerks, it's clear that people just want to put fuel on the gender war. Not actually help men in any way.

DavidByron2 · 2021-11-30T17:13:28+00:00

this screenshot is proof that being respectful and civil and not resorting to insults works better then attacking people we disagree with.

Is it? So did they change their mind or something?

they see that the feminists that attack us resort to insults and personal attacks but we don't and remain civil it improves their opinion and image of us

Oh I get it. You're lying about being respectful and civil. You just mean you want to manipulate feminists into looking bad. The opposite of respect. Well that's fine. But only because feminists already do it to themselves so you don't have to manipulate anything at all to do it. Still I advise you to be less manipulative and more respectful of the enemy. We don't need to make feminists look bad. We only need to draw attention to their natural behaviour of anti-male hate.

Title	We need to talk
Author	helicoprion08
Upvotes	3
Comments	47
Date	November 30, 2021 9:34 AM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/r5jmv6/we_need_to_talk/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/we-need-to-talk.1089554 https://theredarchive.com/post/1089554

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