What do you interpret as misogynistic and misandrist?

ReniaTycoon · 2023-02-07T00:49:00+00:00

Examples of misandry...

Women having more family court rights.
Women possessing more reproductive rights even after the overturn of Roe vs Wade.
Affirmative Action.
Female only education and career training funds and programs.
Women holding the lions share of social and media support and voice for their issues while men are ignored.
MeToo movement causing women with no concrete evidence(clear audio and visual footage and DNA) of sexual assault still being able to ruin a mans life, imprison him, and affect his reputation even if he was innocent.
Women do not have to sign for the selective service just to possess adult rights and get an ID. So if there were a draft because a major war broke out they'd be safe and coddled as usual.
Women get to have women's shelters and women only spaces and support facilities.
Women can get 'women infants and children' WIC, a man can get them but he cannot personally benefit from them as the funds can only be legally spent on the children and women.
Women serve less time in jail for equal crimes with equal criminal background.
Toxic feminists can make killallmen jokes, mock men, and insult men who bring up their issues and not be modded or deleted. While men would get censored and banned on 95% of social media networks etc.
Online misogyny is becoming outlawed in inane UK while online misandry is fine to those corrupt nasty worthless law makers.
Women pay less for auto insurance because their gender. Insurance rates should be set and fixed UNTIL an accident happens as a result of the insurance carriers fault.

There may be a lot more cases of accepted and widespread misandry but this is what I could think of.

AirSailer · 2023-02-07T02:16:46+00:00

Some feminists believe it is misogynistic for a woman to be a housewife. I think it's only misogynistic if a woman is forced into that position. Some feminists believe dating younger women is misogynistic.

Feminists also say that women should be empowered to make their own choices, and can be housewives if they want. To them it's misogynistic for a man to want his wife to be a housewife.

Feminists also say it's empowering for women to date/marry older men. To them it's misogynistic for a man to want to date younger women.

Notice a pattern here?

Starforce2005 · 2023-02-07T02:33:29+00:00

I'm curious what privileges men have?

AspirationsOfFreedom · 2023-02-07T13:07:03+00:00

I dont jump straight to "hate" when someone say something negative about the other.

sharksville · 2023-02-07T14:07:15+00:00

It really has to do with the context. If we’re taking into account what the dictionary says, then anyone would be sexist and a homosexual if they had hatred for the other gender. The problem with many people is that they dint really look into the context and act like they’re lawyers in a court room and try and put technicalities and loopholes around things for their own convenience.

Can we say that a person is racist just because he/she doesn’t want to own a black car and wants to own a white car instead? Can we say a man/woman is racist for not wanting to wear clothes made in china and wants to wear something that was made in France when it comes to fashion? No we can’t because that’s personal preference. Choosing to drive a European car over a Japanese car doesn’t mean that a person is being racist towards the Japanese. Choosing to eat Italian over Indian doesn’t mean that a person is racist towards Indians to the point where they don’t wanna eat their cuisine.

Likewise, I too get put off by women and their behaviour. Even the women that happen to be my relatives do the same like one of my aunts. But that doesn’t mean that I hate them completely. One of my aunts comes to my place around Christmas and does nothing but complain while the other women do something unlike her, that doesn’t mean that I hate her. I just don’t like her when she’s complain while doing nothing.

TheNerdiestAnarchist · 2023-02-07T00:26:48+00:00

I can't think of a single modern western example of misogyny. But as you said, there's sure a lot of misandry.

ehWoc · 2023-02-07T08:50:57+00:00

Hateful/derogatory generalisations

Lolocraft1 · 2023-02-07T02:39:55+00:00

Anything could be misogynistic or misandrist if it include injustice, and said injustice was made because one gender is being considered inferior to the other

Less paid for an equal job because she’s a woman? Misogyny. Less power in divorce because he’s a man? Misandry.

"Women are sex-addicted sluts"? Misogyny. "Men are rapist"? Misandry

ThrowAway640KB · 2023-02-07T08:10:24+00:00

Flip the terms. Is it misogynistic? Then the original is misandric.

If you flip the terms/genders and it isn’t either misandric or misogynistic, then it truly is neutral.

KochiraJin · 2023-02-07T09:20:43+00:00

Some feminists believe it is misogynistic for a woman to be a housewife. I think it's only misogynistic if a woman is forced into that position.

I wouldn't say that forcing women to be housewives is necessarily misogyny. Most societies with such rigid social norms have a similarly rigid role for men as well. This isn't really an indication that the society hates men or women. It suggests that they think deviating from those rules would cause their society to decline. Given the prevalence of these role divisions and the similarities of them between cultures, I suspect the root cause is actually environmental. Rather than these roles being divided by hatred, they are instead divided by necessity.

ApprehensiveMail8 · 2023-02-07T13:05:48+00:00

Dictionary definition is pretty good here. It's not complicated. If something is sexist against women it's misogyny. If something is sexist against men it's misandry. Of course both exist. Of course both are irrational.

Equal-End7695 · 2023-02-07T01:39:37+00:00

Some women choose and love to be submissive. There's a sub R dedicated to it no less.

Misogynistic is easily defined by everything a woman feels is degrading or makes her feel less than. .... which is essentially everything.

denisc9918 · 2023-02-07T09:22:26+00:00

misogynistic is what I am.

misandrist doesn't exist.

LOL

AndyBrown65 · 2023-02-07T06:59:54+00:00

I would believe anything a feminist thinks is true

justicebba · 2023-02-07T02:56:05+00:00

I think two big things are happening here at once.

You’re focusing on internet, probably very young, probably very attention seeking feminists. I implore you to have a conversation with a feminist over 25 at the very least, and in person if possible. The “feminists” you’re talking about don’t actually believe anything they’re saying. They’re just repeating things they’ve seen online.
You’re bunching all feminism together. Granted, the organizing has been horrendous, but at this point it’s very fragmented. I think of it in the same way of the left side of the political spectrum. Democrats don’t align with liberals, who don’t align with socialists, who don’t align with social democrats. Intersectional feminists don’t align with 1st wave feminists, who don’t align with radical feminists.

You’re speaking on the most surface level low hanging fruit possible. Intelligent feminists don’t like those women either.

To me, misandry and misogyny are the same. Most people will obviously disagree, but at this point we’ve set up enough protections for women for it to be weighted the same.

Title	What do you interpret as misogynistic and misandrist?
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Date	February 7, 2023 12:21 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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