"Why can’t we have equal pay and not have to split the check?"

Blaidd_Dwrg · 2010-12-30T11:37:41+00:00

men [...] have a huge sense of entitlement

[Women] want someone worthy who can appreciate us [...] Can we have certain expectations in our partners and still have it all?

Oh lord. Someone buy that writer a dictionary and put a bookmark at the entry for "hypocrisy".

Quazz · 2010-12-30T14:48:10+00:00

So first they take our jobs and money and now they want us to pay for everything.

Sense, feminism makes none.

fondueguy · 2010-12-30T09:53:53+00:00

Nothing She says is separate from what she wants and what benefits her. All she is saying is what she likes and sort of pawning it of as advise/mortality? Whatever, she sounds like an idiot. She only has 55 fans, so...

taumeson · 2010-12-30T13:59:52+00:00

males taking full advantage of all of our “liberation” by enjoying what can amount to the lack of sustained boundaries by other women.

Bingo. One thing that always bothered me about feminism is that too many "feminists" want to make sure that being equal to men sexually means actively sleeping around.

ExpendableOne · 2010-12-30T18:02:17+00:00

I love how it is men who are socially expected to treat women like royalty(putting themselves out there, doing the asking, making all the date arrangements, taking care of everything, paying for the date, taking charge, etc - and that's not even considering the many potential relational, commemorational and nuptial expectations/entitlements that usually come afterwards),all for the off chance a woman might return a fraction of that interest(physically or emotionally), and live up to all these expectations(being confident, attractive, tall, successful, funny, entertaining, outgoing, independent, strong, creative, etc - even when those women who judge them meet none of these qualities themselves or desire them because of their own insecurities and overcompensations - to even be considered as a potential mate or just somewhat treated like a human being) - and we are the ones with the huge sense of entitlement.

Funny too how she uses the bachelor as an example but, really, when was the last time you ever met any woman willing to do all, if any, of the things men do just for the off chance that she might get the opportunity for that man to return her physical or emotional interest? Those women are on that show to compete and get noticed, the guy(which is still also just one guy who is also there to get noticed, not really an accurate representation of your average man) is really only there for decoration at that point(Although, even then, whether it's the bachelor or the bachelorette, it is still far more often the men who do everything in the first place).

YesImSardonic · 2010-12-31T05:01:10+00:00

It’s still a patriarchal society at the end of the day.

Chickenshit bullshit, unless my father is the official and governmental head of the household his father once led, and I his heir.

But, no, we are not clans anymore. My parents' marriage was not one of alliance.

So, ladies, you get equality or you don't. Feudal collectivist alliances or individually-selected companionship. Vote and drive or don't get drafted. There is no middle ground.

kragshot · 2010-12-31T03:09:21+00:00

I'll put it bluntly; cis-gendered White feminism sold African American women a bill of goods that wasn't worth it's weight in paper but they all bought it anyway. American policies has systematically destroyed the African American male and many African American women were more than complicit in that destruction. Oprah told the African American woman that we weren't worthy of them and they believed her. Now look at our sons and see what they all have reaped. You want to see what we have been turned into? Watch an episode of Maury Povich and see for yourself.

Feminism not only encouraged African American women to leave their men, but to nearly completely disown them. We are dealing with three whole generations of fatherless sons running the streets like madmen without common decency and pride in themselves.

I blame feminism for this destruction. Our communities had begun to finally heal and because of the Civil Rights movement, we had begun to get our collective shit together. But because of second wave feminism, all the gains African Americans had made in healing ourselves from what we suffered during and just after the slavery era are effectively useless.

We have an African American president, but because of feminism, African American men are still at the bottom of the heap.

What the fuck is that?

Title	"Why can’t we have equal pay and not have to split the check?"
Author	thetrollking
Upvotes	19
Comments	36
Date	December 30, 2010 9:28 AM UTC (15 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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