Why is Feminism turning into Men - Hate?

shit-zen-giggles · 2023-01-05T02:12:57+00:00

watch this

it has always been insane.

Aimless-Nomad · 2023-01-05T06:27:39+00:00

Its a feature not a bug.

PassionateCucumber43 · 2023-01-05T02:33:26+00:00

Personally, I think the feminist movement initially had genuinely good intentions and advocated for necessary changes. The problem is that it has gone on for too long without a mainstream, well-established counter-movement. Because of this, it has gradually moved away from equality and towards female supremacy. It’s just human nature to push for special treatment at the expense of others in the absence of a healthy opposition.

Disastrous-Cry-1998 · 2023-01-05T05:12:00+00:00

Turning? Turned already.

Cfwydirk · 2023-01-05T05:48:31+00:00

They want the advantage of equal outcomes. Equal opportunity is not enough.

vasjpan02 · 2023-01-05T02:08:01+00:00

it always was. they just want to clone themselves

Background_Duck2932 · 2023-01-05T03:22:19+00:00

It's because it started with supporting women to gain equality, which isn't a bad thing. What it does is give place for women to gather. As you try to get on equal footing with the opposing faction, you share the reasons for why you should be on equal footing, which should theoretically just boil down to "we are all humans." However, noone really sympathizes or cares about "we are all humans." What does get attention and sympathy is "the opposing faction is bad and we are not bad." It's not meant to attack males, it's just to outline reasons for why changes need to be made, at least at first. It just slowly ended up devolving into simply attacking males.

The thing is, we usually naturally take pride in what makes us, well, us. Usually you see that with race. People will have a high amount of nationalism and support their own races and cheer for them for all sorts of things while turning a blind eye to or downplaying the bad things about their race. This also happens with sex. Now, feminism created a group for women and when you have multiple people that represent the same thing, they share how they have pride in who they are and talk about how the people who aren't like them aren't nearly as good. This creates an echo chamber for "women are great and men are terrible." The issue is that the origin of this group was a genuinely good cause, so calling them out just ends up as looking like you are going against a good cause. Along with that, there are still some genuine feminists who truly want equality in the group who are rightfully offended for being associated with those people taking advantage of feminism. So even though feminism has devolved like this, it still gains traction because of those people and the history of good the movement was meant for.

This brings more people into the feminist group and lets them get more influenced by this echo chamber of "men are evil" and they share more and more stories of what they don't like about men. Some of these things are genuinely good conversation points, but others get nitpicky with things like manspreading and because it's an echo chamber, a lot of people will agree with them and bury the people who reply with genuinely well thought out arguments. Since these nitpicky things gain traction, they then get more widespread and then you end up with more examples of why people should hate men. They're all from a theoretically good cause, so you can't really argue against it without being considered toxic or a misogynist.

It also doesn't help that there are some men who are genuinely misogynist. It also doesn't help that the ones who don't identify as feminist and try to fight for men in the feminist subreddit or feminist groups are usually just kind of sexist and will try to win a fight with a "gotcha" post or comment. I mean even on this subreddit, there are a couple of posts where you'll see the same pattern that happens on the feminist subreddit where men just say "yeah, women suck." It also doesn't help that men will try to prove all of feminism is a joke, not just the part that's just straight up misandrist.

Damienslair · 2023-01-05T05:33:08+00:00

First of all the gender pay gap was never real to begin with.

heeroena · 2023-01-05T04:49:23+00:00

Because in the end they can't escape reality and so they have to lash out at men or admit that they were wrong

PlzSendDunes · 2023-01-05T02:09:50+00:00

My guess is that something in our biology pushes most of us to feel low amount of threat from men and a bit of empathy towards women. Since we have internet and most groups create echo chambers those minor factors blow out of proportions.

Barely anyone corrects delusional feminists, because you feel minor empathy towards women, but also any criticism from men towards any woman will be perceived as an assault and huge mobs will descend upon the critic.

Feminists may not be an actual issue here, but they do serve as an immensely effective catalyst of factors which originate from within our biology.

SecondEldenLord · 2023-01-05T22:29:57+00:00

It's about controlling men and blaming men for everything to make them feel guilty and easy to manipulate. They do not care about equality or even women. If they cared for women they would've gone to middles east where women are actually opressed.

InternationalLaw7073 · 2023-01-05T17:39:31+00:00

Because still in 2023, women are not taken as seriously in the workplace as men. Women are not taken as seriously in media.

Women are still harassed every day on the streets.

Women are harassed online.

Women are belittled online.

There are still people who belive women are second class citizens.

Because still in 2023, women are not taken as seriously in the workplace as men. Women are not taken as seriously in the media.

Ok_Text5955 · 2023-01-06T00:33:52+00:00

The Way the masses think is always media driven.

Imagine being a woman living amongst men.

It must be the equivalent of men living amongst Lions & Sharks..

and The only way to stop it is to feminise men..

And How do you do that?

Make it advantageous to be a woman..

afreshstart-dontruin · 2023-01-06T00:40:29+00:00

Unfortunately, misogyny is still rampant. A misogynist became president. No one cares about respect towards women apparently.

LemonBearAlien · 2023-01-05T16:48:26+00:00

All movements have a side to it that doesn’t actually stand for the real motive. BLM/LOOTERS, Conservatives/Whitesupremacy.

You have to be smart enough to discern the differences. Most men aren’t.

Junimojo · 2023-01-05T11:02:24+00:00

It's true the pay gap has shrunk, but it absolutely is not gone entirely. In my country anyway women make on average 89 cents on the dollar. That's straight from government statistics census. So hard to claim it's illegitimate.

Also take into consideration that you have external genitalia, but women have to bare children. So maybe it's not that bad?

I feel like some of this post is just a specific anecdote about your own frustrations. So best of luck unpacking those, doesn't seem like your claims make much sense.

Title	Why is Feminism turning into Men - Hate?
Author	NoLiquidCapital
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Date	January 5, 2023 1:33 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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