CMV: Nice guys finish first

Mrs_Drgree · 2021-10-16T12:24:43+00:00

Removed for low effort

just_a_place · 2021-10-16T07:22:25+00:00

You slept with 50 different women by 23 and you say you're not fronting? lol Not buying it bruh.

The thing about women is that they don't magically open their legs just cause you play your nice card right, assuming they don't see past the phony act. Out of those 50 women and none of them wanted a relationship is what you're saying? None of them wanted to tie you down? They were all just like "Oh you're so nice! TAKE ME NOW!"

I have dated/gone out with that many women and NOT all of them led to sex. A few hookups here and there but when I am genuinely nice to women they enjoy my company, not my dick. And when I know they like me as a friend it would be a real dick move to press then for sex at that point which is how I know you're not as nice as you think you are. You use your niceness as lubrication to get past these women's guard and get them to open up, which is devious and doesn't make you a nice guy at all because the nice thing to do is to NOT fuck them at that point. These women probably trust you and it's kinda scummy to take advantage of that just to fuck them.

I am not a nice guy by the way, but I do like my female friends enough to not be an asshole towards them. If they think of me as their friend I'm not gonna take advantage of it just to get my dick into them when a hookup with a girl that doesn't give a fuck how nice I am will do.

NockerJoe · 2021-10-16T07:12:35+00:00

I think the obvious question is what qualifies as nice. You're averaging high single to low double digits a year. Unless none of those women wanted something long term or none of them were on a different page you don't really fit the nice definition as its applied.

feelingskank · 2021-10-16T07:22:28+00:00

If you are good looking and gentle, you would obviously finish first.

You are not finishing first because you are a nice guy. You are finishing first because you are good looking.

JacobMoogberg69 · 2021-10-16T07:18:57+00:00

There are nice guys and Nice Guys. The Nice Guy (capital N and capital G) are a very specific personality type, basically characterized as people with low self esteem who believe no one can like them for who they truly are, so the only way to get their needs met is to be nice to everyone and especially to women, making pleasing women the central theme of their life. It is very different than someone who is confident in themselves, likes themselves and doesn't feel the need to put up a fake facade to get liked.

Playstayshan5 · 2021-10-16T07:10:11+00:00

You’re a nice guy but bragging about sleeping with 40-50 different women lol

over348 · 2021-10-16T07:10:02+00:00

How tall are you

TheDONKnight · 2021-10-16T07:20:59+00:00

How Tall Are You? From 1-10, How Would You Rate Your Looks? From 1-10, How Would You Rate The Average Looks of All The Women You Slept With? How much money do you make in a Year?

passepar2t · 2021-10-16T07:35:55+00:00

Do you also make $300,000 at your job at 23?

rivetcitymayor · 2021-10-16T08:51:45+00:00

You gotta give some stats cause 50 is a lot

Race, city, online dating or real life etc

Mrs_Drgree · 2021-10-16T09:01:15+00:00

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Jakes1967 · 2021-10-16T09:05:11+00:00

I’m a 23 year old guy and I am a nice guy. I’ve slept with maybe close to 40-50 different women, but I am a nice guy.

Contradiction in terms.

TheBookOfSeil · 2021-10-16T06:52:17+00:00

First to lose.

The reality of the situation becomes clear when you realize that any good thing that an attractive person does gets amplified in the eyes of the opposite sex while not getting as big a reaction if a lesser attractive person does it.

So, its not so much that being nice makes people seem more attractive. Its that being attractive makes people seem more nice.

Boom, baby!

Aldabruzzo · 2021-10-16T11:31:50+00:00

Uh huh. Post a picture of yourself and we will see how much of your sexual success is “nice” and how much is physical attractiveness and appeal.

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Bullishasf · 2021-10-16T07:01:01+00:00

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no_user_ID_found · 2021-10-16T08:15:10+00:00

If I read the responses; You can never do it right can you? Bang to much, you’re an asshole, bang to little, you’re an i n c e l. Knowing what game works for you, you’re an asshole. Not knowing your game, goodbye female attention.

Just fuck around all you want, learn, find the best suitable person you want to be the mother of your children. The more experienced you are, the better your choice will be in the end.

Nice girls finish last.

Bullishasf · 2021-10-16T08:15:18+00:00

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Laytheblameonluck · 2021-10-16T08:40:59+00:00

Aren't you worried about STDs and pregnancy?

Pilling_it · 2021-10-16T09:02:09+00:00

You can be nice, just don't be a fucking doormat, and don't forget to put a speck of an asshat every now and then.

Assuming it's true, all that the number of women you slept with tell me is that you're good looking.

kittenated · 2021-10-16T09:27:30+00:00

How many of the 40 - 50 have been girlfriends / LTRs?

Mark_Freed · 2021-10-16T10:57:39+00:00

You seem to misunderstand what people mean when they say a nice guy. All men who are nice cannot be called "nice guys".

"Nice guys" are too agreeable. They are partly driven by empathy, partly by fear of rejection, they are people pleasers, simps, they avoid confrontation, they are risk averse, they are kind partly due to weakness. They are not the kind who takes the lead. They are not lady killers by definition because most girls don't find nice guys attractive sexually.

Nice guys can be a great friend. They are reliable, trustworthy, they will do you favors, they buy you gifts, plan meetups. They are really lonely and desperately need love and validaton. They are afraid of losing their friends if they show a backbone and disagree. They might also not give their own needs any priority, they are male pickmes. But atleast female pickmes are attractive to some guys, nice guys are just friendzoned.

This is a type of guy we all meet, they are usually found in nerdy schools and occupations, they are feminine men and over time they grow resentful as they realize how much of a failure they are in the romantic domain. Some manage to learn to change, some find women who like them inspite of these qualities, some fall into pua and red pill, some withdraw from this domain and declare that it is not a need and focus their energies into their career and hobbies - comics, coding, anime, gaming.

You might a nice person, a guy who is also genuine, kind and empathetic. You are what nice guys should become by developing self confidence and learning to be assertative and that is what pua basically tells them.

John_Oakman · 2021-10-16T12:09:46+00:00

Which place the genuine kind person finishes is irrelevant, because the person in question themselves don't put undue importance on those petty matters.

RabbitNRaccoon · 2021-10-16T07:22:58+00:00

The is a difference between being nice and kind and supplicating.

Alot men who call themselves "nice" are men who supplicate. They supplicate because they have no boundaries, no self respect and people can sense it. So no one likes them.

The feign being nice because they are too afraid to be themselves and run the risk of not being liked by some people. And they can't stand that.

Plenty of really kind people with strong boundaries. They can go from nice to mean in 5 seconds and they don't let other people mistreat them.

There is a difference.

Title	CMV: Nice guys finish first
Author	Bullishasf
Upvotes	0
Comments	97
Date	October 16, 2021 6:45 AM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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