Gender roles

wtknight · 2020-04-25T04:12:47+00:00

Removed. No rants or advice posts.

yasee · 2020-04-25T03:44:47+00:00

why would you marry someone like this?

DangZagnut · 2020-04-25T03:43:47+00:00

Here’s the thing about the whole “gender role” thing.

It’s just women bitching about having to participate in a relationship.

Women only form relationships with men for money. They don’t believe they should participate beyond that.

Before societal standards forced them to do some laundry or pretend to parent a kid. Now those days are gone. Now you see the parasite in all it’s glory.

Now “hard” work, or really any work or participation is “sexist” but it is your role is to maximize bringing home money so she has a wide variety of colorful boxes of wine so she can tolerate having to be with you by drinking them all day.

She is only with you for money. You’re basically any idiot in a gorilla suit for Halloween. Gorilla looks the same, personal in the suit is irrelevant.

So nope your way out. Or don’t. It’s just going to be a never ending bitch fest of having to participate in your relationship. And it’s never going to improve. The older and more tired you get doesn’t translate into doing more work around the house, or giving a shit.

Troy016 · 2020-04-25T03:48:48+00:00

This is basically the definition of eating her cake and yours too.

Smoogs2 · 2020-04-25T03:35:52+00:00

Break up. What is she the only girl in the world? She’s taking advantage of you.

popfriday · 2020-04-25T03:48:45+00:00

Divorce her then tf are we supposed to do?

Maybe post on the red pill so they can properly bash her like you desperately want.

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YetAnotherCommenter · 2020-04-25T03:44:21+00:00

Get rid of her.

Can we just get back to gender roles so we don’t have to fight about this shit constantly?

Considering she continually demands you do all the "man things" it sounds to me like she's totally okay with gender roles... when they make you do things for her.

Am I way off base on expecting her to do all the cooking and cleaning?

Not really, but sort of. She should contribute to the relationship equally. The division of tasks is a secondary matter to the equality of contribution. IF she insists on you performing the "man things" she should provide the "woman things," or you should leave her because she's refusing to contribute equally to the relationship.

OmarNBradley · 2020-04-25T04:06:13+00:00

Dog holes?

Maybe you should have married a woman who grew up splitting and hauling firewood. But I think that probably you would have thought that woman was not sufficiently feminine and graceful and carefree. Oh, well. You take the good with the bad.

Edit: wtf do you mean DIG holes? How many fucking holes do you have to dig? I helped my parents install a fence around their acre back yard and I dug plenty of holes then, but I guess I kind of pride myself now on having a life where, although I do the vast majority of yard work, I have not had to dig a hole in over a decade. What kind of life do you lead where you dig holes all the time? Have you considered a backhoe?

2020-04-25T04:10:00+00:00

Hide some money in an account and end it. She’s a user. Simple as that.

2020-04-25T04:38:13+00:00

I don't think it's a gender role issue.

I was influenced by gender equality movements. I really considered women capable of pretty much everything a man is.

Same here. And I still believe that, keywords being "capable" and "pretty much".

Instead of a long-winded comment, I will outline my life experience being married twice.

Wife #1 (the love of my life): she was pretty much like your wife. She talked a good game about women able to do everything a man could, and she would also talk about how she hated stereotypical gender roles especially anything to do with cooking and cleaning being women's role.

This was our life:

She:

had a full time office job, 40 hours a week, M-F, 9 to 5.

Me:

had a full time office job, 40 hours a week, M-F, 9 to 5.
on top of that I also had a part-time job, 1-2 nights a week + 1-2 days over the weekend (retail)
on top of that I also went to school at night 3 days/week
I did the weekly laundry since when I was available to do it together was inconvenient with her schedule
I did the weekly shopping since when I was available to do it together was inconvenient with her schedule
I also did most of the cooking since once I got home at about 11 PM I had to make my own food and she would always ask "Since you're making it for yourself, can you make some extra for me too since I haven't had dinner?"
We never cleaned our apartment
We took care of our finances together and it was always a fight since she wanted to live beyond our means and access consumer credit for things like a bigger apartment that we could not afford, vacations, her clothes... did I mention that I was working 2 jobs in order to put myself through school?

Just for the record: I don't blame here (well, not anymore) I know I am accountable for all of that since I did it out or my own free will and exercising my agency. Nobody ever forced me to do any of all of the above. TRP ~~taught me that~~ made me realize that.

My second wife (now ex) the closest to the mythical unicorn that I have ever met. She was not a feminist but she would be offended if someone mentioned stereotypical gender roles like "a woman place is in the kitchen" etc... This was our life:

her job: demanding professional job (award-winning engineer), working 45-50/hours per week (if you're in professional services you know all about the 2,000 billable hours/year)
my job: demanding professional job, working 45-50-60/hours per week
we lived in a big house in suburbia with a large yard as well:
- we did the grocery together
- we cooked together or shared tasks from prep/setup to after-meals cleaning
- 1 day each weekend was for running errands and chores around the house. I did the "heavy" jobs like mowing the lawn and take care of the yard and maintenance on the house, she would be inside cleaning and doing other chores; once I was done we would both finish and is she was not at a breaking point I would help her with whatever needed to be completed. Light and long maintenance jobs like painting or spring cleaning we did them together.
- I never felt we didn't equally contribute and neither did she; we had our fights but sharing chores was never an issue.

I believe that - except for obvious stamina and force - a woman is capable of doing anything a man can do.

I also believe that 2 like-minded and compatible smart people in a committed relationship find a solution to banalities like: who does the dishes tonight, who is going to take care of the tree the fell on the driveway.

Cobra_x30 · 2020-04-25T03:42:00+00:00

You are supposed to agree on this stuff going in. It’s a bit late now to try to make her change. Instead ask her to get a fucking job and then you can take some time to do those chores.

saladfingers4141 · 2020-04-25T03:42:30+00:00

Feels like a troll post.

Where are you living that your wife needs to be carrying wood and using saws?

Title	Gender roles
Author	Whiteliesmatter1
Upvotes	1
Comments	23
Date	April 25, 2020 3:29 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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