Thoughts on Plastic Surgery?

ragnarockette · 2016-05-30T17:00:16+00:00

My fiancé always talked negatively about plastic surgery. He likes a natural look. However, he then rattled off about 5-10 women who were "aging gracefully" (Sandra Bullock, Julianne Moore, etc). These women are most definitely getting some cosmetic procedures done, they just aren't full on face lifts and massive amounts of injectables, they do it subtly and tastefully so they still look their age, just better. Once he realized that not all plastic surgery means looking like Lil Kim or the Lion Lady.

On the other hand I have a friend who pays for his wife (she is in her late 40's) to get lip fillers and juvaderm and mini face lifts and eyebrow lifts. She looks like an Orange County housewife but is confident and vivacious and he thinks she is the most beautiful woman in the world and likes the "done up" look. So I think it comes down to a man's personal preference.

prasect · 2016-05-30T06:40:51+00:00

Just to expand upon what I was saying: I was in a thread on a semi-redpill forum, and the men were discussing whether or not it was worthwhile to pay for a girlfriend's breast implants. Some believed it would make him a cuck, because he'd be paying for her to attract more male attention and increase her SMV and possibly leave him. On the other hand, it could potentially improve their sex life and make the man more attracted to his partner. I would like some redpill women thoughts on this topic

FleetingWish · 2016-05-30T20:07:37+00:00

I see no problem with using advancements in technology to make yourself more attractive. If there was a new miracle cream on the market that could guarantee you would be wrinkle-free after using it a week, it would sell like crazy.

I think there is something about the invasiveness, price, and permanence of plastic surgery that makes people feel like it is somehow cheating.

My first requirement in looking for something that will better myself is that, most importantly, I will get the results I want. (This means I am not going to go to a plastic surgeon for a face lift that will turn out looking badly, nor will I buy a wrinkle cream that doesn't work.) Second, is that I can afford it. Plastic surgery is out of a lot of people's budget, but if you can afford it, it is totally worth it to be able to look in the mirror and like what you see.

My only recommendations are do your research and don't skimp on price. You are doing something permanent to your body, so read lots of reviews, look at lots of before and after pictures, and realize that this is not something where you want to look for the best "bargain". Get the best surgeon you can find, and pay whatever (s)he costs.

Aholahi · 2016-05-30T16:39:37+00:00

Skip it and focus on the multitude of natural self improvement options. No, they won't be as "quick" or as drastic as plastic surgery but they are so much better for you in the long run. Physical shape is more than breasts. Classes like pure barre create a beautiful and feminine shape, tight and toned. Implants won't make your legs look better or your butt look sexier. Facial and hair care is so vital. Taking good care of your skin now equals better looks later too. Hair color and cut should look natural. I have friends with implants and I've noticed two common things that happen when you get implants. Usually they gain weight! Suddenly, bc your breasts are the "focus" a tummy that isn't flat seems more acceptable. Also I think implants cause the body to want to balance out with a bigger figure. Not cute. Also, implants aren't a one and done. You will be back in ten years (less if you aren't lucky) to have them redone. Leaks happen. Breakage happens and so does scarring and breast tissue can harden. Not worth it. For a special night out with your husband, rock a push up bra, focus on overall physical shape, and wear clothes that suit your shape.

Mentathiel · 2016-05-30T09:40:02+00:00

There's something that just doesn't sit well with most people in regards to plastic surgery. I think we instinctively know it's cheating others to perceive us as if we had one type of genome, while the traits expressed have actually been artificially manufactured. I think that therefore it can have benefits in a marriage with a partner who also wants it, but if made public it probably decreases your SMV with new people. Now, do the effects even out with how much your appearance increases it is impossible to answer.

Also, admittedly, I don't know very much on the topic, but I don't know how would breast implants affect your sexual pleasure. All I keep finding are articles that are obviously biased because they're advertising the practice. I think it's worth checking into/researching a bit more, because men often really like to dominate women through pleasure and decreasing his ability to do so might not be worth the visual stimulation. But again, I have no idea what am I talking about, I'm just suggesting a thorough research.

aanarchist · 2016-05-30T11:21:16+00:00

there was this article i saw about a chinese guy who divorced his wife after finding out that she had extensive plastic surgery done to augment her looks. their kids turned out to be ugly as fuck cuz her genetics shone through. it was a funny story. i guess moral of the story is if you're gonna do it, make sure the guy loves you beforehand.

fabosexy · 2016-05-31T00:09:01+00:00

I'm gonna say this fron the other side of a cultural divide. I live in Korea (not Korean but I've lived here almost my entire life so very Koreanized and am married to a Korean) I don't see what the issue is with plastic surgery. If you see there's something wrong with your body fix it. I've had a good amount of plastic surgery nothing extreme but I've had some improvements made to the shape of my face. I told my husband and shared pictures of what I looked before .

I've gotten a few things done while I've been married(brow lift,calf reduction and a breast reduction and lift) and they've improved my marriage especially my breast reduction. I'm more confident and I'm not self conscious about my boobs and him touching them. I can also go out and do things with him because my back doesn't hurt and my boobs aren't in the way.

ivegotsomequestions0 · 2016-05-31T23:52:25+00:00

I got breast implants after my fiancé and I got engaged. He was happy for me to get them but made it really clear that he wasn't going to put any pressure on me, which was important considering the invasiveness of the surgery.

He loves them now, so I'd say the effect on our relationship has been pretty positive. He enjoys them in the bedroom and he likes the fact that other people think he has an attractive fiancée. (Not that my small boobs made me unattractive, but the implants have definitely improved what I have.)

Men like having a good looking partner. As long as the surgery isn't a springboard to leave him and take your looks elsewhere, there's really no downside here.

prasect · 2016-05-30T07:03:41+00:00

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Mackowatosc · 2016-05-31T10:46:37+00:00

Ok, speaking as a guy....unless you reeealy need it, do NOT do a cosmetic surgery. Especially if its just for some guy, not for your self-image / medical need. Its SURGERY, not COSMETIC, primarily.

While we guys do value youth and beauty, you women have - sometimes - quite skewed opinion (thru cosmetics marketing) what beauty really is. Tip: its not a "perfect skin doll behind 10 tons of makeup". Really. Its not. There is no "perfection" to achieve anyway. Please be yourself, first, and just enhance that with makeup.

While surgery is sometimes needed / desirable, its not a MUST to do.

Can it enhance the relationship / marriage? It can enhance one's look (mostly to adhere to certain "standard" of what beauty is), enhancing a relationship / marriage would require most probably not a surgery tho, but some acceptance that noone's perfect.

But thats just my 2 cents. When I see a woman with 100% plucked eyebrows, and painted...something in their place....nope, thats not what I want. Same with ball-like breasts...thats not really how breasts look/feel like. Nope. Not for me.

ilovewesties · 2016-06-04T02:30:07+00:00

You should start taking care of your skin now. It helps delay plastic surgery. Most women don't understand this, but you need to have a good skincare regime from your late teens. If you haven't, it's not too late to start.

1.) Stay out of the sun. No sun bathing. That's what fake tanners are for. Use a sunscreen everyday. Sunscreen is not only for beach days. Find a nice light one for daily use. I have recs from ones that work. Women are starting to look old in their 20's from too much sun.

2.) Use a retinol at night. Start with a light one from the drugstore.

Seriously, start looking into good skincare regimes. Men need them also.

2016-06-24T04:37:48+00:00

As a guy any girl with plastic surgery is automatically no longer a dating prospect, for similar reasons to casual sex. She clearly doesn't like and respect herself or her body and wants attention.

Title	Thoughts on Plastic Surgery?
Author	prasect
Upvotes	6
Comments	32
Date	May 30, 2016 6:36 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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