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A quick perspective on why I ended my last relationship with my beta ex.

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Title A quick perspective on why I ended my last relationship with my beta ex.
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Upvotes 75
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Date February 24, 2014 6:28 AM UTC
(12 years ago)
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Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1yrwk8/a_quick_perspective_on_why_i_ended_my_last/
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[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet49 points50 points51 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

For the rest of your life, swap donkeys and ham beasts will try to convince that you're being manipulated, enslaved, and deceived. That your happiness is less important than your tutelage to a vast, impersonal army of self-entitled cunts.

Stiff 'em and carry on.

[–]Patriarchal_Bondage 20 points21 points22 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You don't know what you're saying, you've been brainwashed by Patriarchy. /s

[–]Endorsed ContributorVarrian13 points14 points15 points 12 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Take a gander at TRP Women. You'll find other women and ideas/issues that are specific your gender.

*Cock carousel. Not sure what/how a clock carousel would work. Anyone else wanna take a guess?

[–]Gfresh4057 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Typo - L and O are right next to each other.

[–]attaxx 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

or she has a really strange fetish

[–][deleted] 6 points6 points6 points 12 years ago | Copy Link

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[–]attaxx 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Hey baby, I have a clock that goes all the way to 13 for ya

[–][deleted] 7 points7 points7 points 12 years ago | Copy Link

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[–]1bradyo25 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

....But this one goes up to 13.

[–][deleted] 3 points3 points3 points 12 years ago | Copy Link

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[–]attaxx 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't think you understand how this works so lemme explain: 12 is the loudest, 13 is even louder than that. You can't beat that unless it goes up to 14.But that ain't possible.

[–]cashmoney_x2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She wants to fuck anyone that asks her for the time?

[–]EHjulstrom4 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Yum

[–]1kick60 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not sure what/how a clock carousel would work. Anyone else wanna take a guess?

Just like a regular carousel, but instead of an assortment of animals to ride, it's penises. Better sit on them all to see which you like best!

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Post this over in /r/redpillwomen they will appreciate it too.

[–]ZR6X7 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Don't let those swamp beast feminists tell you you're being manipulated/disrespected. Relationships thrive when the man is in control and the woman has a rock by her side

[–]TRP Vanguardnicethingyoucanthave5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

he doesn't let me get bitchy. He has no tolerance for it and I love it.

Practical examples would be welcome here.

[–]macardent9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

My father is a the nicest guy you can find on planet earth. He helps everyone but himself, he is always nice to my mother on her face, he provides for her and all but she doesn't respect him because when someone talks shit about her he doesn't stand up for her. He hurts her just like I said he doesn't hurt anyone but himself and she is a part of him and us his family. Because he is a Beta Male my mom has to be the leader of the family and women don't make logical choices - as much as I love her and respect her - I sometimes can make better choices than her because her choices are emotionally driven.

You made the right choice, when one of my ex left me to ride the cock carousel I hated her. But today I am really thankful to her and the guy that helped her cheat on me. Because I would never find TRP.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Same here, I also experienced a bad breakup due to my beta behavior as a young man and it was the best thing that ever happened to me. It's how I discovered the manosphere and went on a path of self-improvement and self-discovery that has led to levels of success in my life that I could have never have dreamed of before.

[–]zeroday22-4 points-3 points-2 points 12 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

But today I am really thankful to her and the guy that helped her cheat on me. Because I would never find TRP.

Classic post bad experience rationalization... "I'm glad I lost my legs because it has given me a new purpose in life that I never would have found without the accident!"

[–]Tway_the_Parley5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's more like - Now I don't have to carry this stupid backpack for the woman society expects me to carry until I fucking die in an unhappy marriage.

[–]MakeTheSexyTalk4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

More like "I'm glad I lost my legs in the accident because now I have these kickass bionic legs and can outrun a cheetah and jump over buildings and shit"

It's not a rationalization if your life is objectively better after the accident.

[–]zeroday22-1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Except your life can get better without the bad things happening, people always try to give meaning to bad experiences when it is just shitty luck.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

To have learned from a mistake is the meaning of mistakes; failure isn't luck it's a process of being shit at something to being slightly less shit. Understanding failure and choosing to grow from that experience isn't some delusional rationalization, it's the purest form of recognizing truth, it's unpleasant truth. The weak are the ones that refuse to change because they are afraid.

[–]zeroday220 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Right he didn't make a mistake, his girl was shit, that is some bad luck. He could have happened into a good relationship and that never would have happened to him and he could have found TRP or other self help strategies without that painful experience.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

According to TRP principle, if he was a beta doormat to his gf it was a matter of time before she broke it off with him one way or another, or allowed the relationships to drag on into the black hole of marriage-divorce. That is not bad luck, that is inevitability based on his mistake of being a fucking chump. He was lucky IMO that she ruthlessly tossed him aside instead of giving the whole "it's not you it's me/ never change because you're a great guy" speal.

Obviously I'm assuming that he was very weak in the relationship, but that is no absurd assumption based on the typical male in this day and age.

[–]zeroday220 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well if we accept your scenario then he had the bad luck to have that personality. This isn't good fortune any way you slice it. It is possible to find TRP without being a total chump to begin with.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah but the probability is really low considering AWALT is often true and the fact that he has been conditioned his entire life to disagree with the information here.

[–]TRP Vanguardnicethingyoucanthave5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

He didn't lose his legs though.

If his choices were (1) stay in an unhappy relationship

(2) get out and do a better job in the next relationship

then saying, "I'm glad I got out" is hardly rationalization.

[–]zeroday220 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

He wasn't in an unhappy relationship, he was happy and his girl fucked him over. It would have been better to find out about TRP without getting fucked over.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

One doesn't know one needs to seek another truth, until one's current "truth" is exposed as a lie.

[–]zeroday220 points1 point2 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Only if you're not too bright, otherwise you are always seeking truth.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Most people feminazi USA need to learn the hard way.

[–]zeroday220 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

People always say "I'm glad I got out" or "dodged a bullet there! DURRRRHUR" No one ever admits that they had a bad experience and it was for no reason whatsoever and they are not better for it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Those statements are admitting that they had a bad experience.

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How is it a rationalization if it's a perfectly logical conclusion? Imagine you're at a dead-end low-paying job that you don't have the heart to leave. Then one day you get canned. You immediately find another fulfilling job that pays way more. You can reasonably conclude that being fired was a good thing for you.

Same with relationship experiences.

[–]Hyooge 7 points7 points7 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

This isn't manipulation by an older man. This is your acceptance of how your relationship works because you truly enjoy it and feel safe. This is how it should be. Don't ever feel pressured into needing to have a quick blast on some nameless cocks because immature, slutty girls tell you too.

[+]RedPill_S -12 points-11 points-10 points 12 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Your post reeks of white knighting. Sure, it may not be mainstream white knighting, but it is white knighting nonetheless.

[–]Hyooge1 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

What on earth are you on about? She's an example of a more RedPill woman. I think you have the wrong idea of what white knighting actually is.

[–][deleted] 7 points7 points7 points 12 years ago | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 0 points0 points0 points 12 years ago | Copy Link

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[–]masturbateawy6 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Meh no man wants to constantly have to reign someone in. If I were to constantly shit test my husband and push boundaries just to see if I can my husband would quickly get tired of my shit. Why put up with that kind of behavior when he could have a girl come over, fuck and not deal with the drama. It's nice to have someone challenge me and remind me that I have a lot to learn but there are standards expected of me. I'm chalking it up to OP being 18 and thinking this kind of behavior is endearing. She'll have to mature or she'll lose him to someone who isn't a constant irritation.

[–]1 Endorsed Contributormordanus2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Kind of scary how well this stuff works eh?

[–]incraved1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I feel like we need some verification like in AMA's for this type of threads. How do I know this is not made up by some guy? I think it's quite unlikely for a post like this to be genuine.

[–][deleted] 1 points1 points1 points 12 years ago | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

OP delete this comment now, for obvious reasons.

[–]musicvita250 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good clock carousel

[–]1ThumpNuts0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Wow. This is ridiculous and I'm surprised most of you "Red Pillers" don't see this. OP, I think you're just a bit too "young" to understand what is really going on.

  1. You left your Beta ex, because he is not a man. He was not in control of himself or the relationship. He was a pussy.

  2. If you need a man to control YOU and your bitchiness... well, you're fucked. It's not his job to "control" you or to keep your bitchiness in check -- that's your job. You're in for a rude awakening when you fuck up and "act the bitch" and your Red Pill boyfriend kicks your ass to the curb.

Solution: Get control of yourself and kill your bitch instincts. Become a responsible fucking adult. Control YOURSELF. If you don't know how, allow this new boyfriend to TEACH you. If you want to be submissive - GREAT! I think that's what your really looking for, but that doesn't mean HE controls YOU. That only means he is IN CHARGE.

The Epiphany: If you are looking for a man to control you, you are REALLY looking for a way to eliminate your own responsibility. That way, if you are a bitch, you can just blame the guy you are with for not controlling you well enough. That's bull-shit... cause a real man would dump your ass as soon as you pull that non-sense - and THEN where will you be?

If I had the time, I would love to straighten you [and chicks like you] out. You're on the cusp of true understanding, you just need to take those extra steps... responsibility and accountability.

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[–]1ThumpNuts1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That sounds better. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that your choice of words were not quite as accurate as you meant them to be.

[–]RedPill_S 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm sorry but I don't have any love for this kind of post. All I see is classic bitch hamstering.

TLDR: Hypergamy hamster leaves a guy and blames it all on him being too "nice". Most likely will do the same to current "alpha" boyfriend.

[–]Violentcumstainz0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I get where some of you guys that have been down voted are coming from. However, I don't think this is a NAWALT thing. In fact it's more in support of AWALT. She left her caring and attentive blue pill boyfriend for a more authoritative and confident man.

[+]Hormander-8 points-7 points-6 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

We definitely don't need women testimonies on TRP. This post is useless.

[–]RedPill_S -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think whoever posted this is a troll from some subreddit like srs or some other bs reddit and has brought in a voting brigade. This thread is basically celebrating OP's solipsism, hypergamy, and attention whoring all while white-knighting and telling her to "Listen to her feels".

[–]Hormander-1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Looks like some SRS users are on their periods

[+]3rt41-9 points-8 points-7 points 12 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

but please come here to update us if you ride that carousel, eventually.

[–]dragoness_leclerq7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

A good woman posts a thread on how TRP helped her find and maintain a fulfilling relationship and this is what you have to say in response?

[–]3rt41-5 points-4 points-3 points 12 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

so long for NAWALT am i right? what is going on here?

[–]TRP Vanguardnicethingyoucanthave2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

so long for NAWALT am i right? what is going on here?

What's going on here is that you don't understand what NAWALT means.

When we say, "NAWALT" we are sarcastically mocking blue pillers who attempt to derail our conversations through the use of special pleading. Blue pillers believe that because every person is different (and it's true, every person is a little different) it is therefore impossible for us to figure out what behaviors we should emulate in order to maximize our success and happiness.

We mock that naive line of reasoning by saying, "NAWALT!" You have apparently taken our mocking literally.

I'll give an example that doesn't involve people in order to make things more clear. Ever been around horses? You shouldn't walk behind a horse. You're likely to get kicked. Actually, there's a way you do it where you keep your hand on the horse's ass so that it knows you're there. The point is, if you startle a horse, you get kicked.

Imagine me trying to explain that to a horse-newbie and having blue pill idiots come in and swear up and down that they once saw a horse that didn't kick. I'm giving good advice. They're giving bad advice. They're muddying the waters. They're derailing.

Even though it's certainly true that some horses are so comfortable around people that they wont kick you, it's still bad advice to a newbie to say "not all horses are like that."

So, in that horse community, you can imagine people mocking the blue piller by saying, "lol not all horses are like that!!" It's mocking. It's not a literal belief that every horse is the same.

Back to people: we all know that all women are different. Only an idiot doesn't know that. Nonetheless, there are many behaviors and preferences that women have, that are present in such a huge majority of women, that if you want to be successful in dating, you had damn-well better learn to deal with. When someone tries to derail a useful TRP discussion about common behaviors and preferences by pointing to an unusual exception - we mock them by screaming NAWALT!

It's like feminists sarcastically saying, "what about the menz!"

[–]3rt41-2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And i get that.

What i don't get, is why you guys are going full rage about a simple comment.

What excludes the fact that op will go on the carousel, basing on your expert analysis?

Nothing.

Hence the comment.

[–]dragoness_leclerq0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

I don't even understand the purpose of this response, let alone what it's supposed to mean.

[–]MockingDead0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thus demonstrating you are new, and as a new person, you failed to shut your cockholster.

[–]dragoness_leclerq0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

you failed to shut your cockholster.

I'm going to be honest, I've spent the last 20 minutes really hoping you figured out I was a woman before you called my mouth was a "cockholster". Otherwise...

[–]3rt41-2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

You guys go blaming NAWALT and then you apply this line of reason making an exception for one specific woman?

So cute

[–]dragoness_leclerq-1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

What line of reasoning?

Anyway, I'm sorry, but have you spent much time on TRP? Implying a woman who has spent (some time) decidedly not "riding the carousel" eventually will do so is no way somehow contradicting "NAWALT". It's just being shitty for no good reason.

*Edited.

[–]3rt41-1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

sure, two decades, because giving op is in her 20's, you are saying that girls these days start having sex at the age of 1, i see

[–]dragoness_leclerq0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Legitimate apologies. I am 100% willing to admit I got her confused with another poster for a split second.

[–]3rt410 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

no problem bro

[–]dragoness_leclerq0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

no problem bro feeemale

FTFY. But it's all good. On top of that, you've just proved a woman wrong so you've got that going for you.

[–]MockingDead-2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Her word that she didn't ride the Carousel. It's likely she's forgetting a few hookups.

[–]dragoness_leclerq0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe, maybe not.

It's likely she's forgetting a few hookups.

Is it? I'm a big fan of paying attention what what people do so sure I don't trust anything someone says 100% of the time. However it's one thing to be skeptical but something else entirely to claim the opposite of what they've said more "likely" true.

[–]Endevour -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Unsubscribe immediatly.

[–]3rt410 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

or not

[–]veyron1001-3 points-2 points-1 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You do realize she is posting in TRP and not TBP or askhamsters right?

[–]LetThemEatWar32-5 points-4 points-3 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Your current boyfriend introduced you to the Red Pill? Hmm. Doesn't that make all his behaviour a little bit too predictable? A lot of TRP people really like to play by the 'book', and so I would think that you could pretty much predict his every reaction to you, with just a little bit of reading.

Must make his actions seem kind of hollow, knowing that they are the mere result of obedience to online instructions.

Why on earth did he give the instruction manual over to his girlfriend?

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[–]LetThemEatWar32-1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Don't worry. I certainly do not use TRP as an instruction manual.

Is there ever a point where you act out, just from emotional impulse? And when he 'stands strong' against that, doesn't it feel scripted? You know that this is not him. He is not a natural alpha.

He is a guy who gets dating advice from the internet...

EDIT:

...which is fine. But the point of TRP is to trick women into thinking you're something that you aren't. That you're successful, strong, confident. The people who read TRP do so because none of those qualities come naturally to them.

[–]Endorsed ContributorLastRevision1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

"But the point of TRP is to trick women into thinking you're something that you aren't."

It seems as though you have more reading to do, my friend.

The point of TRP is to become that person.

[–]LetThemEatWar320 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What about the analogy that compares TRP to make up for men? It is simply about impersonating the successful man.

If TRP's advice was just: 'women like success. Be successful', it would not be very popular. It provides a short cut. Sure, it encourages attempts towards success, but the core message is 'while you attempt to learn to play the guitar, try acting like you are already Slash'.

NOTE: I'm not saying it doesn't work. I haven't actually tried it myself, but I have done SOME reading.

[–]Endorsed ContributorLastRevision1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What about the analogy that compares TRP to make up for men? It is simply about impersonating the successful man.

TRP is a tool kit, you can take what you want and apply it to your life. That said, lets say you are a baseline 3... you can use the TRP/Seddit trickery and fuck a few 5s, or you can use the same game info and add self-improvement and development; reading, working out, getting respectable hobbies, working on your career, becoming a fucking interesting person, standing up straight (the list is virtually infinite), become a 6 and attract 7s.... end up a male 8 and attract some female 9s.

Or, fuck, stay a 3 playing Xbox and be happy fucking your occasional 5.

Point being, it's up to you but the information is here for you to become the person you want to be and the level of success you attain is up to you.

[–]LetThemEatWar32-1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I am personally content with my dating life, though I do not follow TRP. I find it more interesting as a sociological study of men vs. women etc. There's a lot of folk truth (and humour) in TRP and its associated manosphere, though I would personally feel uncomfortable implementing its suggestions on how to 'play the game' with more success, as I believe in being true to my inner monologue, i.e., I will not act in a way contrary to my feelings, even if perhaps a better outcome could be achieved that way.

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