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Absolutely appalling: "Cuckoldry, The Intellectual Sex Fetish." How have men lost so much respect for themselves?

neurosurg

April 8, 2014
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Title Absolutely appalling: "Cuckoldry, The Intellectual Sex Fetish." How have men lost so much respect for themselves?
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neurosurg

Upvotes 37
Comments 72
Date April 8, 2014 12:04 AM UTC
(12 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/22h0e2/absolutely_appalling_cuckoldry_the_intellectual/
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[–][deleted] 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Fallen_Angle 14 points15 points16 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

His own girlfriend/wife probably told him what to write as she took it up the ass from a "better, more sexually attractive male".

[–]bitchdantkillmyvibe 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Intellectual - god I hate that word. I only ever hear it used by people who are the furthest thing from 'intellectual'.

[–]crybannanna 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

agreed... usually it means wealthy/elitist, and says nothing about intellect.

[–]HahahahaWaitWhat 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yup. Although sometimes it also means "I'm the kind of pussy that likes to watch my wife get railed by another dude and then write about it online"

[–]crybannanna 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

ha... yeah, that too.

[–]Manuel_S 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is so fucking bad for the image of anything remotely brainy.

Soon you'll be ashamed you ever read a book.

Everybody can have a fetish and I don't judge it. If you're so weak that you want your wife to get fucked by some big dude - fine. Enjoy the hurt, she enjoys the fuck, other guy has fun. Win - win - win.

But calling it intellectual? Fuck this.

[–]JohnGalt316 27 points28 points29 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

they should just take it to the next level

guys have the other guy live 24/7 with his wife while paying all the bills

[–]fryandbend3r 52 points53 points54 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That's called alimony.

[–]JohnGalt316 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

nailed it

[–]TheIronViking 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

10/10

[–]QuietlyLearning 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There are a few that do this. For a bit, I was the "other guy" or "bull" in such a situation. I would go over to their house for a night for two and fuck the wife while the guy was in the other room.

To say the least, the situation wasn't healthy for the guy. Apparently he agreed to an open relationship but "didn't have enough time to date anyone else." Don't agree to an open relationship unless you have someone in mind already for yourself. Also don't get into an open relationship while married.

[–]HahahahaWaitWhat 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't get [...] married.

I abridged your advice a little bit but I still think it gets the point across nicely.

[–]__ROOSTER__ 26 points27 points28 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This stuff is real and it's growing huge. For lots of reasons.

It's the end game of dominant women and beta males. Beta provider while still fucking the alpha.

[–]chronicvape 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

for most it is.

For the rest who are actually kinksters, the woman is the submissive slave used for the husbands pleasure.

But thats more hotwifing.

[–]__ROOSTER__ 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'd question that assertion. I'm spent quite a bit of time in the kink world . Lots of Dom women kinksters doing cuck. LOTS of beta males searching to be cucks to Dom women.

[–]chronicvape 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think we agree. Majority are doing the Dom-Female thing.

Its not what i'm interested in.

[–]Hughtub 22 points23 points24 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Typical attempt to lead people into a behavior by pretending it's a growing trend. "Kids around the country are going crazy for ____"

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]Hughtub 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"It's sweeping the elementary schools. KIDS in budding romances ignoring their little boyfriends and girlfriends and instead having sex with strangers in front of them, and they all love it!"

[–]Theophagist 41 points42 points43 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I believe it's possible that if boys were allowed a healthy and positive view of their sexuality the cuckold wouldn't exist.

[–]bitchdantkillmyvibe 30 points31 points32 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Spot on. I have no issue with fetishes (I have a few myself), but you have to look at and recognize where they come from, and this fetish seems to come from a very dark place, where a guy has somehow managed to rationalize and move past his crushing loneliness, rejection, exclusion and sexual shame by turning it into a fetish. That's actually how a lot of people move past life traumas (think rape fetishes), and it seems these men are making themselves feel better about how utterly beta they are by saying it turns them on. It's like they're saying "No, no, no, it's okay my wife cheats on me and doesn't really love me and isn't sexually satisfied by me because that turns me on". How convenient. It feels very delusional.

[–]Theophagist 21 points22 points23 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's like they're saying "No, no, no, it's okay my wife cheats on me and doesn't really love me and isn't sexually satisfied by me because that turns me on".

The thing is, many cuckolds have to coax their wives to play along. Having been a swinger, pornographer and all around perv I've been privy to more than one personal story on those lines.

He may have the most chaste and beautiful loyal wife on the planet and he has to beg for months to get her to "cheat" and play the role laid out for her.

A very close friend of mine many years ago confided in me that her husband would have her tell him how little his cock was and how disappointing he was while he jerked off. He was a hardcore cuckold, he didn't even want to watch. He wanted her to go do it and come back and tell him about it. He even had a code phrase to start the game. "I'm feeling small." Very telling of his mindset.

All these details build no small confusion in an effort to understand the mind of a cuckold. They aren't like hotwife-lovers, they clearly have a complex series of issues that need to be addressed with therapy, not satiated with sex.

[–]The-Lost-Vikings2 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I couldn't agree with you more.

[–]SilverWolfeBlade 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Why is it that there is never a husband that fucks another woman while the wife watches? What the fuck is this?

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 20 points21 points22 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

There is, it's called CuckQueaning. It is less popular. Some women also get off on the humiliation aspect of it. They are turned on by the fact that their husband is an Alpha male and fucks multiple women.

[–]LaserSoundMusic 15 points16 points17 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sounds way cooler

[–]mikelovesvegas 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's a fetish I could endorse. Selfish? Maybe.

[–]Moresolater 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'll tell you why cuckqueening is not as popular. From an evopsych perspective women absolutely hate other women that try to divert resources from their male. Since women understand that sex is an essential bargaining chip in acquiring said resources it absolutely kills them to know another women is fucking you and essentially encroaching on "their" property. Male cuckolding however is much more "natural". It is seen in real life in many animal groups, although I do not understand why men garner pleasure from being subjugated.

[–]mikelovesvegas 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's dread-game level 9000

[–]Pornography_saves_li 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Omega losers trying to sexualize their utter failure to attract a woman (even their wife). Yup, sure sounds like something to strive for...

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]neurosurg[S] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

To be fair, the daily beast is mostly bullshit. However, I'd been hearing things about the cuckold fetish, and this was the first hit when I googled it. It's interesting to look at from a critical perspective.

[–]newguy75 -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The Daily Beast is a *** rag.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Anybody using the words social construct is a fucking retard.

[–]eccentricrealist 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think in those cases the Bull's more intelligent. He gets some good ol' meat to pound on and doesn't have to worry about any compromise whatsoever.

[–]JudgeRedPill 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What the actual fuck makes this an "intellectual" fetish? The fact that he fights past his normal biology to have an exclusive, loving relationship with his goddamn wife? The woman who is supposed to give him her exclusive love and attention? He fights past his need for dignity and is now some intellectual giant?

Let's call this what it is: bending over backwards in order to appease loudmouth, selfish, conniving feminists by slapping the word "intellectual" on the idea.

[–]Uckcan 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is disgusting.. Intellectual? Sounds like hamstering

[–]poopyhitlerballs 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Someone needs to resurrect Pol Pot to get rid of these "intellectuals"

[–]Ghadis 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Let them act without dignity. We will see who wins in the end.

For the moment, make money by pandering to the most egregious hipster fads.

[–]joe_bruised_ego 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I keep seeing the “Black Phillip Show” recommended on this sub, in it the host advocates letting your women sleep with other men- not quite like this though.

For what it’s worth, I think the whole bdsm denial thing is sexy, but it’s like a rape fantasy- it’s like something that would be awful if it were serious.

Whenever I’ve seen an interview with a woman in one of these relationships, the first thing she says is how “manly” her partner is and how “ you would never guess”. Is this what you guys call hamstering?

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[–]joe_bruised_ego 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I downloaded them recently- like swinging, not cuckolding, I’m pretty sure I remember him mocking that.

One very specific caveat is it can’t be her idea- if she brings it up she’s already fucking someone else.

[–]asaspade5 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

If someone ever fucked my wife in front of me...they had better off me right then and there...because I would fucking destroy everyone they have, and torture them to my heart's content.

[–]draketton -4 points-3 points-2 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

INTERNET TOUGH GUY

[–]Glenbert 17 points18 points19 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But also consistent with the motives behind a lot second degree murder, assault and battery.

[–]asaspade5 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Maybe, but if some dude fucked your wife right in front of you....what would you do?

[–]Endorsed ContributorCrimsonCapsule 23 points24 points25 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Go out for a Coke and never come back.

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[–]harkrank 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

It's cheating no matter what the involved parties think they believe are their desires. Just like it's murder if you kill somebody that think they want it.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

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[–]harkrank 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Cheating is not about consent. A man who accepts his wife having sex with other men does not have sovereignty over his own mind and can not give his consent. Just like an infant wouldn't be held accountable for things it does.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Redpiller456 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Do you genuinely feel that men want to find themselves in a cuckold situation? I wouldn't doubt this mindset develops from years of sexual neglect from their partner/self-loathing/lack of self-respect to be unable to leave a toxic relationship (needs not met, but too beta to leave or stand up for oneself) until it manifests into this abortion of a fetish.

Of course, these men are consciously choosing to allow their partners to get fucked and putting a stamp of authenticity on it by calling it "intellectual". But I guarantee no man sets out to be in a cuckold situation and this behavior should always be discouraged and mocked for what it is.

[–]waldoon 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm trying to understand the motivation for this. Masochism is the obvious contender but aren't masochists typically dominant in the rest of their lives?

Only other thing I can think of: the cuckold fantasy is that of having snared a higher status female than he has in reality. I guess if he has a choice of men to sleep with his wife he would then pick the highest value male. Whereas if it were masochism he would pick the lowest.

[–]Bucky_Goldstein 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

to me this sounds like a cover up for a guy who wants a gay experience, but doesn't want to come out of the closet and take the risk, but he gets to see some dude pound his wife while he imagines it was him.
How else could you absolutely not care that your wife is having sex with another man? probably by fulfilling another fantasty while wrapping it up in a neat package that you have a cuckold fetish. His wife is happy, he is happy he got to see another man go to town on his wife and imagine it was him.

I can't understand the mindset of doing this, as I'd go into a blind rage if I was married and something like this happened

[–]watersign -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

nothing new to be honest..

[+]1mr_throwz -9 points-8 points-7 points 12 years ago* (10 children) | Copy Link

There are both men and women who get off on watching their spouse fuck someone else. This has existed for centuries. If it's what you like then it's what you like, nothing really wrong with it. And yeah, you can be totally alpha through the whole process if you maintain frame.

EDIT: Downvotes from idiots who don't understand the kink community at all.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, watching another dude bang my wife is the most alpha thing I can imagine...

[+]1mr_throwz -9 points-8 points-7 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

When people respond with a "witty" Reddit One LinerTM it tells me that they don't now much about the subject.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I don't need to know more about sick shit like that. I wouldn't research child rape either.

[+]1mr_throwz -10 points-9 points-8 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

See, I knew you were ignorant about the subject.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

And yeah, you can be totally alpha through the whole process if you maintain frame.

wut?

[–]1mr_throwz -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The frame that it's your fantasy that she's going to satisfy for you because she is your woman and that's what you expect from her. You maintain control of the situation and everything is happening for your pleasure.

It's no different than swingers and shit man.

Don't be so myopic, really.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Maybe its me, but sitting in the corner jacking off while some dude nails your wife seems pretty fucking crazy. To each their own...but damn.

[–]1mr_throwz 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not crazy if it's what you like.

I've been the bull before and let me tell you, some of the dudes you'd have no idea that they were into that sort of thing.

[–]zpatriarchy -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

that's some great hamstering you got going on there. i'm impressed.

[+]Daimai -6 points-5 points-4 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Meh, whats wrong with cuckolding? If it turns people on, why not let them do it? How does it affect you in anyway?

[–]1spicy_fries 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Uhh... this isn't the sub for you.

[–]Daimai -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I never said I wanted to be cuckolded. I just don't understand why imposing your values on anyone else is a good thing.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

how do you think they got to the point where that shit turns them on?

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