Cluster B = Cluster Fuck - Avoid Crazy Bitches at ALL Costs

awkwardtouching · 2019-06-06T21:01:31+00:00

All Cluster B's are unique but they have some similarities:

Lying. They lie all the time, even about stuff that doesn't fucking matter.
Head over heels for you like...instantly. I'm talking days after meeting you, they're already saying the L-word. Within weeks they will talk about major commitments like marriage or kids.
Instability in their view of you or the relationship. You'll have a great date and they're ready to get married. You have a minor argument and they're ready to never speak to you again. The early days of the relationship will be non-stop intensity and don't be surprised if you alternate between the craziest fights of your life and the best sex of your life.
Other dudes. Every single Cluster B chick has a guy harem that would make a typical high-value woman blush. Instead of 2-3 back-up plans, she'll have about 5-10 guys actively competing for her attention.
A random smattering of health issues that seem persistent and never-ending. I think this kind of ties into the lying thing, but basically, if you ask how they are doing the answer is always "I have this issue with my ____ and its really bugging me" even though they'll never go to a doctor or if they do the doctor has no fucking clue what's wrong because it's probably just "you're a human being so shit is never really perfect"

Volcanic-Penguin · 2019-06-06T14:01:33+00:00

I got roped in by an NPD woman claiming she was being abused by her mother, my blue pill white knight brain wanted to save her, then I trusted her with birth control.

Tried to live with her, which was impossible, constant screaming at me, some physical abuse (I hit back, gender equality) and a few times pointing a kitchen knife at me.

After breaking up I had to move to her country (yup we're from different countries) as well as go through family court. Her mother who is actually a very nice person and has been hugely supportive, hooked me up with a lawyer and things went pretty well, though I suspect I'll have to go back to court as the situation has changed somewhat since the court ruling that was set three years ago.

On the plus side my four year old daughter is lovely and I'm happy to have her.

Basic life lesson is that you can never trust a woman with birth control.

MentORPHEUS · 2019-06-06T14:55:02+00:00

Can confirm. Long, long ago had a BPD girlfriend who was OK at first but soon the crazy started to show. It started escalating and never stopped. Toward the end she was breaking into my house as I slept, even after I screwed all the doors and windows shut from the inside! It took two trips to jail and a restraining order before she left me alone.

Know the signs of Axis II disorders and run like the wind if you spot them! This type of madness exploits men's protective nature. Don't try to help or fix her, she's unfixable and will only drag you down.

trancedj · 2019-06-06T16:10:47+00:00

Cluster B - NPD nearly destroyed everything I’ve worked my entire life to achieve.

Let’s do a quick run down: 1. Serious daddy issues 2. Manipulative AF 3. Amazing sex 4. Completely delusional 5. False allegations - #metoo 6. Lawsuit claiming 10’s of thousands in damages

Luckily for me, I was able to show the judge how bat shit crazy she was and I ended up “winning” the court cases (2) and surviving and now thriving. Only cost me about 8k and years off my life.

Had it not been for BOTH my male supervisors being red pilled, I would be homeless today.

Never fuck with crazy and NEVER shit where you eat.

Kabuki431 · 2019-06-06T18:04:08+00:00

So those of you who are considering or think i like crazy BPD girls. All these guys are absolutely seriously right, including myself.

At some point in life i went from making 6 figures to 6 dollars an hours and hit Rock bottom with this bitch.

NEVER AGAIN EVER

surfthroughlife · 2019-06-06T14:54:42+00:00

Been in one with a bipolar bitch and holy fuck brother, that was one rough experience.

The silver lining is that scenarios like these bring us all closer to communities like this that provide answers to the questions of men everywhere as to why women act in certain ways.

When you get on the extreme ends of the personality distribution, a lot of traits are amplified to crazy degrees, which provides the framework for our theories and analysis.

Glad to hear you learned and you know what to watch out for in the future.

Patric_MasterBateman · 2019-06-06T23:33:55+00:00

Things to look out for:

•May have had adult responsibilities/familial roles at at very young ages.

•May never had a chance to simply be kids when they were growing up.

•Often had unique non-typical parent/child relationships. For example, either one or both parents may have treated them like peers or friends rather than having traditional parent/child boundaries.

•May be prone to pull away from significant others (SO) when engulfment fears reflexively kick in. This may be a consequence of caregiver(s) who sought counsel or support from child . In turn, abused child would have a disincentive to assert his or her identity.

•May choose to dye hair in vibrant non-traditional colors: green, blue, yellow, purplish red; this penchant for new looks and/or “starting fresh.” Genesis likely pertains to identity-related issues.

•Apt to self perceive that he or she not is well liked by others; however, in actuality, others often appreciate their company due to a “go with flow” attitude as well as independent spirit and charismatic personality.

•May be prone to engage in push-pull behavior in close interpersonal relationships. This may very well be a result of negligent caregivers consistently-inconsistent efforts to provide unconditional love.

•Has or at one time had considered getting tats, piercings, and/or plugs. This seems to have more to do with “piercing the numbness” or physical feeling issues as much as, if not more than, for aesthetic purposes.

•Communication preference for symbols, pictures, analogies preferred rather than than solely words. Has an appreciation for information communicated via “pictograms.”

•Although not apt to credit themselves, they have an ability to “think outside the box.” Can be very creative and have an affinity thrive in liberal arts oriented jobs.

•Prefer that actions serve as proof of intentions. Words alone carry little weight. Hence, compliments and/or sentiments of praise are often summarily dismissed or even possibly perceived as efforts to manipulate.

•Particularly difficult time trusting others. This is likely due to negligent caregivers’ inconsistent behavior.

•Often views issues from “a glass half empty” and/or worst case scenario perspective.

•May easily lose motivation to move forward in a relationship context if there is even a slight perception of rejection of lack of mutual interest. This is likely born out of caregiver neglect.

•Make optimal pet owners. Very patient and deferential to their pets. “Pets do not judge.”

•Often appreciates/identifies with cats. Respect for cats due to fact cats often present as having an independent spirit as well as a disposition that their respect must be earned.

•Preference for horror/thrill movies. Feeling/pierce numbness issue.

•Risk taking and seize the day mentality revered.

•In work environment broad structure and general routines are helpful. Micromanagement and too much rule orientation is not well received.

•Decisions very often made due to hunches and intuition.

•Will commonly share a great deal of personal information as means to bond with others.

•Does not read minds well. However, can very accurately discern a NT’s emotional state very accurately via close examination of the NT’s body posture, breathing rate, and physical cues etc.

•NTs may often misconstrue a BPD sufferer’s physical gestures or vocal intonations to be hostile despite the fact the BPD sufferer had not intended to express ill-will or malice.

•A person with BPD may be predisposed to misperceive a NT’s neutral body language and/or neutral facial expressions to be indicative hostility or disapproval.

facelessnessxx · 2019-06-07T01:25:31+00:00

If i could upvote more than once I would. Im trapped in a situation with a Bipolar narcissistic borderline atm. Navigating this disaster is a nightmare. She's physically abusive as well with every sign she has IED. We have a child together which makes things extremely difficult and makes a simple decision to run for my life a complex and delicate situation to deal with.

Iron rule #7 is my critical life failure and it is taking everything I have to navigate this storm. Gentlemen learn the signs and gtfo as soon as you can. And for fucks sake...DONT BREED WITH THEM. In our age and climate of misandry you will be in a conjoined responsibility for the most precious gift you can receive. You'll spend your 3am sleepless nights wondering how you'll be able to successfully raise your kids with a monster as your partner.

One final note...its for life. Even if you split from the psychopath you will now share a bond together which means every birthday party, every decision, every graduation, weddings, and any circumstances that require you to be at your childs side as parents you will more than likely be there together.

RUN FOR YOUR FUCKING LIFE.

INNASKILLZ2K18 · 2019-06-07T06:52:16+00:00

I work with a ton of BPD females. Once you get a deeper understanding of their psychology and emotional intelligence, you understand more why to stay away.

Most have complex PTSD. Trauma, abuse, neglect over long periods.

If they get a whiff of negative emotion, they literally talk themselves further and further into emotional crisis. They lack any ability to self sooth, and will then look outside the selves to be rescued.

You don't text her back, inorder to avoid neediness? Her head can go like 'he doesn't care, and he doesn't love me, and the world is fucked, and I have nobody, and I am obviously not good enough, and he will continue to destroy me, and I must get him, and all men, and on and on'.

Their reality is real to them.

They will layer stories around your every move, which leads them to crisis.

The result of histories where emotionally things got worse and worse for them.

Leave, before you think it has something to do with you.

RatioRegnum · 2019-06-07T01:20:18+00:00

100% My mother was(is) BPD. Among other dysfunctions, she has an existential fear of men, which manifests as an existential hatred of men. Which made my life pretty damn difficult when I stopped being her son and started being a man. She absolutely destroyed my father, who was a pretty happening guy. Not that he is blameless in the drama, as he not only failed to protect his children from the witch-queen of Narnia, he got sucked into performing her abuse for her.

Suffice to say, we no longer talk.

On the good side, after more-or-less recovering and getting my radar tuned, I can spot a BPD at a thousand metres. I pegged the new fiance of a friend once over a 30 minute dinner, shoulda/woulda/coulda warned him, but what could I have said? Three years and a baby later, with divorce papers on the table, I sent him to a BPD site and his head just about exploded as he read his whole experience in black and white. I pegged another one from a photograph - later verified by an involved psychiatrist. Catch them in an unguarded moment, you can see the predator in their eyes.

On the down side, I'm officially a high functioning sociopath. Despite all the fuckwittery on here about embracing the dark triad, this is not a good thing to be. Whatever advantages it may bring are more than offset by the regular descent of my inner life to the ninth ring of hell. Notwithstanding that my outer life is going extremely well by any objective measure.

Notwithstanding my radar, I have dated a few BPD. One in particular was a ten on my own scale, and the sex was escape-velocity. High risk, but I got away with it. However, I know a guy who did not. She got pregnant, and she took him so hard in the divorce that he'll be paying for her previous children until the youngest of his is 25. That's 21 years support, to be clear, some of it for "children" who will be in their mid 30s by the time its done, and with spousal support all that time in the bargain. And she beats his kids. Violently. CPS has been involved, and documented this. And he still cannot get custody, despite now being in a stable marriage, to a stable woman, with happy and unbeaten children.

So yeah gentlemen - if you're going to fly that close to the sun - don't let her control the birth.

I also highly recommend Gift of Fear, by Gavin DeBecker - not specifically about BPD, but exceptionally good for radar tuning. Also the whole Mindhunter series by Douglas (not the drama series, the actual books). Negotiation training, body language reading, all that helps. Anthony of 21 convention has a video on his BPD GF which is worth watching. Note: I have no opinion on the current drama revolving around 21. Judge for yourself. Bottom line, if you're halfway well adjusted, you have no idea how fucked up maladjusted can get. Educate yourself, or be a lamb to the slaughter.

Aromatic_Exit · 2019-06-07T12:21:18+00:00

This will be long, I haven't told anyone the full details in real life because I feel embarrassed and like people won't believe me - they'll think I'm just making a fuss because it was so carefully constructed 'story wise' that no-one would believe what I say. Thirdly it's kinda moany and negative so people IRL probably don't care enough to sit there and listen!

I have no idea what my ex gf would have been diagnosed with, but for sure it's something serious and destructive.

I was roped in as a young 19 year old guy, not by an explicit story that she told, but a general 'feeling' that she was a poor vulnerable victim of some terrible trauma from the past that only I could help her through. I had a brilliant childhood and upbringing so I had 100% of my shit together. I had friends, I had family, I was physically healthy, I had hobbies I genuinely enjoyed taking part in, I had money and I managed it very very well. I was intelligent, curious, and adventurous in character. She was extremely shy, withdrawn, no hobbies. She did have friends and was physically healthy, but her relationship with her father was a bit weird. I couldn't put a finger on why, I didn't consciously know what it was but I knew that their relationship was weird. Looking back I can definitely identify 2 things that were fucked up; extremely controlling dynamic and lots of anxiety/low confidence in the family. There seemed like more than that behind the scenes but I'm not a fucking psychiatrist.

All of the good things in my life changed 100% in the opposite direction over the course of 5 years being brought down by this woman in a relationship. By the end I was suicidal, I had been separated emotionally from my family, I had no friends, I was fatter, I didn't enjoy my hobbies, I had lost money and wasn't managing it well. Character wise I had become withdrawn, submissive, quiet, shy, full of shame, and ZERO confidence in any aspect of life. I left my job because I couldn't cope with it, I left her because the relationship was something that was draining me - it had become a massive burden to me and the only way out I saw was to leave. I had tried so hard in the past to make and build a strong relationship that would be a force for the world, but with one side trying to sabotage the cement being used to build the foundations, and knocking down walls at night that had been built during the day I had completely given up on trying to take action to improve, it was hopeless. Ya know that experiment done by Seligman on dogs with electricity that demonstrated learned helplessness? It's exactly that.

https://study.com/academy/lesson/how-seligmans-learned-helplessness-theory-applies-to-human-depression-and-stress.html

She wanted me to accept the relationship as shitty, and put up with her shitty behaviour. Anyway she made the break up so difficult and painful in ways that I didn't know how to defend against, and it still makes me angry thinking about it because it's such unnecessary pain. I cannot see the purpose of it for either side, obviously there was some benefit her side but whatever. I knew in the long run I needed to do it to get my shit together again.

How did it go from good to shit?

I still don't really know exactly. I didn't even realise what was happening until it was too late - but now I look back I can see that every interaction we had, everything she said to me, every thing she did was an attempt to BRING ME DOWN. For what reason I still don't know. I cannot think of 1 single sentence that was uttered or any act that was taken over 5 years that was intended to encourage, help, or lift my position in the world. Actually that's not true - one thing going for her is that she would give gifts. She would try hard with gifts, and although sometimes it was a bit weird at least she was trying. I never really cared for receiving gifts personally, it's not a way that I show love and care but I appreciated that she did that for me with good intentions. Anyway I believed in mutually beneficial relationships (unconsciously) and I was in an emotionally one-sided relationship without realizing it through naivety & manipulation. For a long time, and still now sometimes I am in the habit of accepting one-sided relationships against me, and developing that dynamic again because I had become so used to it. I am still in the process of getting my shit back together, and re-building defences against shitty behaviour. I have also tried shitting on other people through my journey and taking advantage of others who are too placating, but I really hate it because I've been on the other side and I know how that feels. I strongly believe in relationships that are as mutually beneficial as possible so I'm taking the hard route by choice. Because people are selfish as hell.

When I finally broke up with her, she said 'I feel out of control' and left our flat. I was left in silence thinking 'wtf has just happened'. Weirdest reaction to a break up I've ever experienced.

I white knighted the shit out of her, and ended up as a beggar outside the castle! I didn't set out to save the girl, it was a dynamic that she set from the beginning. All girls I'd been with before had been great fun - but I had no idea the shitstorm trying to white knight this one would bring. I still have no idea if it was an act of vulnerability to rope me in or whether she was genuinely suffering trauma. I also still don't know if what she did was conscious or unconscious. Either way It doesn't really matter now, just gotta learn and move on as best possible.

Conway2709 · 2019-06-08T02:11:13+00:00

I am going through it now. She’s put me into the darkest hole of my life. It’s terrible. These women trick you, lie to you, cheat on you, and then they’re gone. They’re disordered. I will forever run far away from any chick who exhibits this type of behavior. Stealthily abusing you mentally and emotionally until you’re emotionally fucking crippled and accept it. Any chick that you go into a conversation with about how she hurt you - and you leave the conversation more confused or questioning yourself - RUN.

Gambattekure · 2019-06-06T19:30:16+00:00

Most of us here don't know the symptoms of a cluster B , could you add an edit for what you saw were the early signs of this mental illness? Also, for some odd reason, I fondly remember when mentally deranged bitches used to be cast aside because of obvious drama, instead of having a host of social media followers urging them on their path of self-destructive behaviors.

Nicolas0631 · 2019-06-06T17:29:03+00:00

Quite true. Actually any Personality Disorder as dignosed by the a psy is always a no go.

MattyAnon · 2019-06-08T16:36:30+00:00

Having been on the shitty end of a relationship with a crazy bitch with a Cluster B personality disorder (hers was Narcissistic PD, but you can also choose from the extensive menu of Borderline, Histrionic, or Anti Social and everything in between - as if one wasn't enough)

Done borderline once and histrionic once. These women are initially charming and then utterly destructive. And the world supports them and believes them, because female.

Remember this simple equation: Cluster B = Cluster Fuck.

This is so good I've repeated it.

People: don't think you can win against female mental disorder. These women are more solipsistic, more selfish and care even less than more normal women. Don't forget that society (other women, other men, the police, the law, social media, her friends, your friends) will all take HER side. She'll contort things to make it all your fault, regardless of her behaviour. You can't win against the whole world, don't even try.

Cluster B: Run fast, run far.

geezthathurts · 2019-06-06T20:30:11+00:00

Right on time, thanks fella. I need that kind of solid reminder . I was dealing with high drama low interest girl till last week. She was extremly manipulative and got tons of shit tests in her bag.

Daddy issue ? check.

Antideppressants ? check.

Disrespect ? check.

Yeah as you said she has a powerful sexual aura but i don't care that much.

Last disrespect was boundry crusher so i ''last seen'' her last text. I had a feeling like i should push more but hell no. Worthless. She never tried earn my attention anyway. Now she's begging attention on instagram from orbiters.

Soon_As_I_Nut · 2019-06-06T21:20:54+00:00

A friend of mine dated a Bi Polar woman. Man is that shit scary. Even worse because she was (was being the keyword here, he was smart and left) such a solid LTR for my friend when she was normal. The really scary part is she started to threaten getting pregnant as a way to trap him. All woman are crazy, some are definitely cut from a different cloth.

teveza11 · 2019-06-07T14:02:30+00:00

Good reminder.

Sometimes crazy girls are hard to avoid, because they make it easy on you.

I have a hot crazy girl who is trying to get me to "hang out."

She has a bimbo body and posts provocative videos. She also has a criminal record.

My balls are telling me to go see her, but my brain is telling me she is trouble, lol.

facelessnessxx · 2019-06-07T17:09:58+00:00

Thanks guys. TRP is liberation from tyranny. I really hope we start pushing for contraception in the form of a pill. It would give current and future men the power to take back their lives.

funnn84 · 2019-06-08T02:37:49+00:00

I wish this had been talked about more i had no idea until it happened to me BPD. Fucking crazy shit. No contact is the only way. Young men need to know more about the dangers of borderlines. I had a coworker almost divorced and out of the hell then they had sex and he got sucked back in, i hope he doesnt kill him self. Broken men feel they deserve these broken women, he was broke, i was too until I started taking responsibility for my fuck ups and have completely turned my life around now i preach about BPD women and how to avoid them at all costs.

Earthonaturtle · 2019-06-10T02:09:21+00:00

Spending time with this kind of person will infect your psyche like a sickness. It's no joke. Run at the first sign of mental instability. Often times this takes the form of a strong reality distortion field.

MrMelbourne · 2019-06-13T13:01:47+00:00

For Men, there are two, "Iron" unbreakable rules in life.

You cannot fix stupid. That is, stupid women. and You cannot fix damaged/fucked up/mentally unstable women.

You are a damn fool if you try. It will cost you dearly and you WILL regret it.

iknowthewhey · 2019-06-06T20:09:46+00:00

A man with frame and abundance would never tolerate cluster B behavior so there's no point telling guys to avoid these girls. The guys that put up with this shit don't have better options. A beta male will fall for this 10/10 times and telling him to his face and pointing out the irregularities won't even convince him.

If you want to avoid the 'cluster b' boogie man, then just improve yourself to the point where you aren't willing to put up with bullshit.

gabeangelo · 2019-06-06T18:19:09+00:00

These kind of posts are like "bruh! Remembr to nevr get involved with criminals!" and I'm like... Isn't that painfully obvious?

Cryptoguru777 · 2019-06-07T07:28:06+00:00

To be honest, most if not all women need a daddy figure. They can enjoy but not respect a man who acts more feminime then them. I don't hope you ever find out the hard way.

xoxuv · 2019-06-08T02:15:13+00:00

She has to not be, at the same time, sociopath, psychopath, histrionic, narcissist, borderline, machiavellic, and other stuff, cluster A, cluster B.

That's a lot of totally fucked up woman. something between 1 in 10, to 1 in 5. And that's only the extremely mentally fucked ones.

#BelieveWomen

ChrimsonChin988 · 2019-06-08T08:28:45+00:00

I believe firmly other people are like mirrors to your subconscious state. If you fall for bitches with mental problems, you need to sort yourself out asap. It's bullshit that opposites attract in this regard.

Birds of feather flock together. A man in a good mental state who wants to produce things and add value to his life and the world will never get stuck up on one of these bitches. You will be able to read these girls like an open book, have no time for that shit and cut them off.

BuzzLightGear321 · 2019-06-06T15:27:05+00:00

Challenge accepted. I feel like testing my frame, no better way to do so.

Title	Cluster B = Cluster Fuck - Avoid Crazy Bitches at ALL Costs
Author	hmsthinkingmeat
Upvotes	99
Comments	111
Date	June 6, 2019 1:15 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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