Escalation for dummies

red_blood_cells · 2022-11-07T18:13:37+00:00

a big part of this is being perceptive and also believing it.

you have to be perceptive to pick up on the IOI and you also have have confidence that "this girl likes me".

happened to me recently where a hottie in a club was giving me three, four, five, IOI's and I picked up on them but I didn't have the confidence to think "this hot girl wants me to touch her" so she gave up eventually, didn't see her for the rest of the night

319Skew · 2022-11-08T00:07:33+00:00

Not to steal the spotlight...

There's a lot of timidity regarding embracing masculinity because of the bombardment from media and horror stories that exist.

It doesn't help that most men have no strong male role model within the vicinity and that the average young woman has the awareness of her own faculties as a child (*).

There's also places that are ramping up the feminist dogma (looking at you Australia/England).

So, I can have some sympathy for the average man.

That said. It's on every guy reading this to improve what they can to get what they want.

The notion that you need to be perfect to approach is insane because I can guarantee that no woman is perfect.

So needing an excuse to be perfect is just avoiding rejection. It's pretty far from masculine.

You should always assume attraction and keep testing the waters but observe her actions objectively.

This is hard to do initially but you get better at it with experience that you get from exposure.

If you feel like it's going south then you can also walk away.

Since I like giving pointers, if you think she's into you, look her in the eyes and tell her what you want. Bonus if you say it with confidence and humour.

"Fuck. I really want to kiss you, but I don't want you to think I'm a slut."

Then smile.

ANY POSITIVE RESPONSE IS A GREEN LIGHT TO LEAN IN FOR A KISS.

If she moves closer you're gold if not then pull back.

Same with any Kino. You'd be amazed what works.

"Don't make me spank you."

"What do you think about this cologne?"

"If I touch your neck, do you think that I can make you shiver?"

Also, if she's not responding. Stop. Pull back. Repeat later. 3x then bail since she's wasting your time. Some do.

*I'm generalizing but if you'd be hard pressed to get a woman to talk about Plato but would have no problem getting her to name all the Kardashians.

MrAnderzon · 2022-11-07T16:51:53+00:00

When a woman chooses to spend her leisure time with you in private and sends lOl's she wants you to touch her and have sex with her. IOl's are indicators of interest. Google them.Here is the most crucial part of escalation;

That right there. Along with reading the escalation ladder is needed. Hardest probably is getting a date.

youcantdenythat · 2022-11-08T04:48:15+00:00

Check out the DiCarlo Escalation Ladder, it's a great start for someone new to escalation.

18cmOfGreatness · 2022-11-09T18:54:50+00:00

Naaah, you don't need IOI's. The only things you need is calibration and strong frame. Always assume attraction. It's her job to prove otherwise. You'd better think about what YOU want, not trying to figure out her thoughts and desires. The thing is, a girl can treat you coldly even when she feels extremely attracted to you. And most of the attraction is also born when you follow your frame even when she reacts negatively to your actions. If you only choose girls who are DTF from the get go, then you'll rarely get anyone at your own level of SMV, let alone higher. You guys need IOIs because you think that negative/cold reactions to your actions is a bad thing and the end of the game, while they are actually your friend as long as you know how to deal with them. Think about it, how much sense does it make to be afraid to upset a girl, to be afraid of her reaction? The thing is, a woman can say "don't touch me" or "take away your hands" even when she's into you, there're many reasons for doing that. This is the case especially if you escalate very fast.

1tayg3r · 2022-11-07T23:01:55+00:00

It's sad how we live in a world where men's natural instincts are discouraged and purported as toxic. Why is society evil like that? I'm a hardcore virgin incel at 25 and I'm struggling to deprogram my mind from those "be a nice guy" disney illusions.

willynoot · 2022-11-08T08:43:09+00:00

Once had a girl go out of her way to stand next to me for about 10 minutes and I didn't say a word to her because of a lack of confidence lol, my friends tore me a new one after that and it was well deserved. Schools and society as a whole just aren't really wired to give men self belief.

4ktx · 2022-11-08T08:46:00+00:00

Most girls start the escalation when you have her in a setting

Wingflier · 2022-11-07T19:41:31+00:00

I'm having a little trouble with this advice though. I'm all for physical escalation, I think it's one of the most important aspects of game, maybe the most important.

But you have to consider the kind of culture you're giving this advice in. Written on a different subreddit, you'd probably be called a rapist and a sexual assault enabler.

We live in a world where when it's a woman's word against yours, her voice is going to win every time. All I'm saying is, I agree with the general sentiment of this message but for God's sake, be careful.

TJ_McConnell_MVP · 2022-11-07T22:35:17+00:00

Or you can just ask for consent

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trplurker · 2022-11-29T14:20:54+00:00

We get bombarded with images where women reject men's advances. In reality this rarely ever happens. Women love to be touched by men and have sex with men.

Holy cow this is a sexual harassment or sexual assault charge waiting to happen. Here let me correct it.

We get bombarded with images where women reject unattractive men's advances. In reality this rarely ever happens. Women love to be touched by attractive men and have sex with attractive men.

Seriously you can have two dudes do the exact same things, the unattractive guy ends being bounced out the spot or in jail while the attractive dude breaks her back that night. Escalation, especially anything with touching, is something that needs to be done slowly but with confidence. Two steps forward, one step back. You need to maintain plausible deniability, at least for the first few physical contacts so you don't end up catching a charge. Good example is if you meet a girl someplace social and start a simple conversation, after a few words move to a quieter location in the room by saying "lets move over here" and either taker her hand or gently nudging her on the lower back. Both are entirely innocent and if she's not interested in you she will let you know it. Also serves as a quick compliance test.

hiktaka · 2022-11-07T22:56:10+00:00

Touching first is not a DHV. Beware equating assertiveness and dominance with horniness.

Always, always let her touch you first.

canteatsleep · 2022-11-08T05:51:43+00:00

This post hits a strong point. The problem for me is the advances, so I want to hit just this post. This post sounds blue pill to me in the pervervial unrest that I feel. For me, I feel i have a hard time feeling accepting in this, as I perceive it blue. The problem I felt lies, in the ambiguity. You

women love to be touched by men and have sex with men.

They do. Even some, if not most, perchance all, lesbians love even just the thought, that a man could equivoce a thought of pure intention, based off of how you, the reader, have rationalized it. (I am trying, but I am in Kansas, and hesitant to the bandwagon.) Behind that frame of ideation lies a woman who may or may not respect herself. It's a grey area, and it's a vice-versal outcome. It is okay not to respect a woman, if she respects herself. Only through appreciation of who she is will that frame, slowly breakdown through to her self-respect. Generally there is no reason to break past the self respect the sisterhood could have for itself, everything just becomes vindictive, that is not why we are in this brotherhood.

I agree, take the foot off the break. But, don't try to speculate. If she wants it she will appreciate it. And, if she doesn't respect her for it and move on. If she appreciates herself and doesn't have any self respect, it's a weak mind. She is narcissistic, or she doesn't get the whole idea. I'm not saying don't, I'm saying aim high, set your expectations low, and go with it. Initiate out of reason. Intentions easily fuck things up. Intend all the way, but don't wait to explain intension.

Escalation for dummies

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Title	Escalation for dummies
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