How important is height really?

need2noh · 2016-10-31T16:38:52+00:00

I'm 5'7 have been with one girl who was shorter than myself. In the double digits for sexual partners. latest FWB being 5'11 and 6'0 respectively. I will say thay almost every shit test I've encountered has been height related. So as long as you're prepared for that and occasionally getting turned down strictly because of some girls wanting tall guys. You'll be fine

MattyAnon · 2016-10-31T15:04:15+00:00

Learn your target market.

Avoid tall girls, they generally want a guy who is taller than they are.

Also avoid ... bizarrely.... avoid really short girls - the shorties always want a guy who is really fucking tall.

That leaves girls around your height... 5-4 to 5-7. That's about half.

Your height is far from a deal breaker.... some girls won't like it, some won't care. Oh, get lifter shoes or whatever they're called. If she can wear makeup, you can get shoes to suit you.

Tako_400 · 2016-10-31T13:40:23+00:00

Some girls want tall men and you're not going to ever be able to do anything about that. I believe that most girls, however, would be more than fine with your height. Don't ever be jealous of taller guys either; it just makes you beta. Also, being tall isn't always great. I'm 6'4 and sometimes I hate my height.

thisornothing · 2016-10-31T14:13:42+00:00

It absolutely is a disadvantage. But, the more you view it as a problem in your mind, the more of a problem it's actually going to be.

Like you say, you have other positive traits. You can't do anything about your height, so you just need to accept it and move on and focus on what you can change.

SadBoy_phil · 2016-10-31T13:56:30+00:00

I'm around 5ft'2inch/5'3 area (1.57/1.6) meters so i totally feel your pain.

Edit: actual Height conversions

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Akela_hk · 2016-10-31T14:11:54+00:00

It matters, just make sure to treat them like they're peasants. Height won't matter at that point. I only usually fuck taller women. I'm 5'11 and the tallest woman I've bed was 5'11. She was smart enough to know that the vast majority of men on the planet were going to be shorter than her, made it easier. Most my lays are 5'7 and taller, and no, it's not easy, even they want 6+

makechangegreatagain · 2016-10-31T16:11:33+00:00

So many people on the internet act like height is the end all be all of masculine attraction.. Which is complete 100% horseshit.

I am 5'8" and height has never been an issue for me with meeting women, although I usually go for girls who are a few inches shorter than me... On the other hand, I have also hooked up with girls who are my height and a few who were taller. One of my friends is 5'4" and has a hot wife and has never had a problem with pulling women. But he's also a very confident guy.

What matters most is your attitude. My theory is a lot of guys who dwell on height usually sabotage themselves and have this whole napoleon complex thing going on where they're always trying to "alpha up" and it's pretty obvious that it's coming from a place of insecurity.

What does matter:

Dressing in a style that fits your demeanor, and attitude.. If you're a business guy, think of it like "brand identity". The design for your company's logo has to reflect its overall philosophy and represent a general mission statement about what it is you do or the product you're selling.

Exercising/eating right to insure your body looks as appealing as it can to the opposite sex.

Having a good social life and surrounding yourself with good supportive people who respect you.

Essentially.. Shit that's preached here at TRP daily..

The girls who say "I only date guys 6'2"+" are usually the types of girls who get pumped and dumped by those guys.

juliusstreicher · 2016-10-31T20:01:31+00:00

I'm 6'2" and I liken height to women's cup size. There is not a damn thing wrong with a b cup, but a d cup will make you much more visible.

tb87670 · 2016-10-31T13:03:38+00:00

I had a very few women say no due to me being 5'7" tall, one was 5'10" herself. I am guessing half the women I fucked were 1-2 inches taller than me and I am now double-digit n-count. It's really not a big deal. Wear boots all the time to help, the skankiest gal I banged was in flip-flops while I was in boots and I was eye-level with her so I think the 'illusion' worked. Once in bed height don't matter, it's all horizontal game at that point.

scissor_me_timbers00 · 2016-10-31T14:09:05+00:00

5'6 is a disadvantage for sure, but it can be overcome. It's not the end of the world by any means.

goldnhorde · 2016-10-31T14:19:51+00:00

Women generally have a few physically male things that they latch onto or that gear them up.

broad shoulders, a really beef chest, height, etc. .....

The bad news is that for those that height is the bottom line, then it is a deal breaker. The good news is that it will be such a clear cut line that you're going to be turned away on the spot. the even better news is that I just don't think it is a huge deal to that many women, especially if the rest of the package (hair, body, etc.) is good to go.

thuggerwoman · 2016-10-31T17:04:00+00:00

A co worker with a fat ass once told me that she could only possibly fuck guys 6 and above. Im 6'1 so i took a swing, but she fell for my 5'5 coworker, whom she asked to fuck over text simply because he was macho, built and in a relationship.

Rommel0502 · 2016-10-31T16:12:49+00:00

Worrying about things you cannot control diverts time away from working on the things you can control. Dont worry about your height, worry about your BMI. Dont worry about your eye color, worry about your income level.

frylock350 · 2016-10-31T19:22:34+00:00

It's as important as a big rack is for a girl. Sure there are superficial idiots who will ignore a girl with small boobs or a short guy, but do you really want to date them anyways?

vengefully_yours · 2016-10-31T16:40:38+00:00

I'm only slightly taller. Here's the deal. We have to work for it, get our game polished and fine tuned, we have to have something that gets her attention. It's somewhat harder for us, but not impossible. We have to develop ourselves more since pussy and everything else isn't thrown at us based on something we can't control.

You know how a hot girl usually develops a shit personality, does nothing important, yet gets everything handed to her? When it comes to pussy tall guys get that to some extent. They don't believe it, but it's true. That's why most of them have shit game, it's easier for them and shit game is good enough while they're young.

We have to work for it the same way men have to achieve compared to how girls get shit for free. It's a source of pride, overcoming shit that really makes no difference but people put a huge emphasis upon. I've never lost a fight or match to anyone over 5'10, and my toughest opponents were my height. The state champs were my height, tall guys got their asses kicked in wrestling, especially at 167lbs where I was my senior year. Everyone over 6' I wrestled got pinned by me within two minutes. In the 30 years since then I've been in countless fights and the tall guys all bluster and bluff, then lose quick. They lack the experience because the bluffing had worked so well before.

Tall guys are very insecure about that too. If one of them doesn't come in here and whine about what I said I'll be surprised. Knowing nothing about me, my training, experience, capabilites, and strength, they'll say they can kick my ass. They don't want anyone to know they're mostly helpless and insecure as fuck about it. It's rather amusing to me.

Height means you can get shit off the top shelf without a ladder, see over the crowd at a concert, and it's difficult to fit in a low slung car. Chicks dig them because they feel like a little girl only coming up to his waist, not because he is more capable, because he probably isn't.

The point is, you do you. Put in the effort to make yourself the best you possibly can, lift, educate yourself, achieve something, build shit, do the hard things in life because that is what makes you a man. Don't worry about how tall you are, own that shit.

amekooky · 2016-10-31T15:44:01+00:00

for this one it depends on the female's preference. I've dated a very cute college tennis player who was 5'9 and i am 5'6. this weekend i had a cute latina i'd never met all over me at halloween party who was around 5'8ish maybe taller.

Oshashaynah · Mon Oct 31 15:23:01 2016 UTC

Seems like women and society in general favor height in men. Although anyone can work out and be strong, its almost the same as asking how important is strength. The answer is very, almost integral. Yes, short men can dress nice and be well groomed and muscular. But the truth is they will always have to work harder than someone given the natural advantage of height.

Ecclesia_Andune · 2016-10-31T16:03:00+00:00

I wont lie to you and say it doesn't matter at all, but 2 caveats i would add is that it's only one closed door, and you can open way more (basically i'm saying it lowers your SMV slightly, but SMV can be boosted in 1000 different ways)

Do you think sluts who put stuff like 'if you're under 6'2 dont bother messaging me' on Tinder would follow that rule if you were rich, jacked, and had good game? Doubtful.

The most important thing as-well is to just not show it to them as a weakness that they can try to shit test you with.

arfl · 2016-10-31T16:16:16+00:00

I think height matters more for marriage, LTR, social functions, showing off with the partner to impress parents and friends. But it doesn't matter much when the girl is in a club drunk and horny and wants a one night stand - in this latter situation they may be more interested by a facially attractive shorter guy than by a tall ugly guy.

WhyWeGot84 · 2016-10-31T18:00:01+00:00

Hey OP,

I understand where you're coming from. There's a good YouTube video on this. I would be pretty insecure about my height sometimes, but this really helped me overcome it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st19d6huwq4. It's about 20 minutes long, and if I were you, i'd definitely give it a try.

Let me know what you think. I'm 5'7. I don't like it, but what can I do about it? Nothing. If people judge you on your height (well who isn't, really - but what I mean is if they make it obvious), then there's no point being around those people. If girls are going to be too bitchy about that, then fuck em, who cares? 3.499Bn others to go.

aanarchist · 2016-10-31T20:36:17+00:00

you can raise your smv just understand that your game has to be tighter. a 6 foot dude can be a complete bitch but there's so much room that he's given for error that isn't not even funny. here's the thing though, hypergamy targets victims based on their wealth and height. you can hide your wealth, but you can't hide being tall. you're going to have an easier time identifying women who are at least somewhat ltr material, and the pump and dump gutter trash will filter themselves out for you, a free gift unless it's really important to you to get to fuck them.

Mckallidon · 2016-10-31T22:03:52+00:00

I'm 5'11". I've never had an issue with height to my knowledge. I've had taller and shorter girls that were A-OK with my height. I've never been rejected for my height by any woman taller than me. Granted I'm in a sweet spot. Not too short for tall chicks and not too tall for shorter chicks. Granted your build is a factor besides height. I'm a built man so I am much bigger than other dudes my height, or taller. I think a man's body is like dicks, girls prefer thickness over height. I've noticed that when women gawk over a tall guy he's usually very built too. They may actually care more about his proportions than height, but women suck at geometry so we would never know if we asked them. What woman wants a tall gangly scrawny dude that weighs 150lbs ? Don't worry about height. Worry that you worry. Get strong and built as fuck and go for whatever you want. If you can't fuck them, fuck 'em.

FractalFactorial · 2016-11-01T00:59:04+00:00

It certainly hurts, but anything can be compensated of. If you've read the side bar you've seen the "four pillars": height is one part of appearance as a whole. There's so many ways to improve your SMV that it may as well be somewhat negligible. Unless the girl is already a higher SMV then you I wouldn't expect her to be stand-offish about it.

Xaxsparrior · 2016-11-02T00:52:00+00:00

Just curious, I've had people say that 6.1 is the perfect height, which I fall into; because it's neither too tall or too short, but tall enough. Is there any truth to this statement or no?

Redbeam100 · 2016-10-31T15:15:27+00:00

If you're ripped, smell good, got game, and are alpha it doesn't matter. I've had taller women chase me because I know what I'm doing. I've had taller women act like they're the shit and reject me only to show interest later when they see me with other females that are also taller. As long as you're not a midget you're fine. Just as if you don't have a 10 inch dick is fine as long as you have acceptable length and bed experience. Use what you got the best way possible.

NakedAndBehindYou · 2016-10-31T21:09:24+00:00

Height is extremely important. Sorry, it sucks, but the truth doesn't care about your feelings. The reality is that by being a short man you are almost instantly crossed off the average girl's list of potential mates. Being short means you need to compensate heavily with other SMV-improving traits. Get muscles, groom yourself well, be confident, be successful, etc. You can still compete, but you are at a heavy disadvantage.

squidracer · 2016-10-31T13:03:41+00:00

Pretty big handicap. Specially if you plan on doing online dating.. Match shows what kind of guy each woman is looking for. Half want over 6' the rest want at least 5'8".

You'll have to be above average in everything else...

naMlliPdeR · 2016-10-31T23:28:40+00:00

Height really doesn't matter at all.

I have no issues getting laid. And from the tons of compliments I've gotten from women, I can't ever recall her saying "omg... I love how tall you are". Never comes up.

I'm 6'4

/s

pfffft_comeon · 2016-11-01T02:20:12+00:00

It matters but here's the reason- size is conflated with dominance.

Find your angle.

epixs · 2016-11-01T03:38:23+00:00

If you're muscular, dress well, have a good job or rich/wealthy, look nice then you shouldn't have any issues at your hieght, and honestly the girls would only be shit testing you on the height if they saw that you cared about it (ie: weakness)

Now if you have two similar guys who are both muscular,rich,good game,well off, attractive,etc...and the only difference is height-I can see the taller guy being picked.

Don't stress about what you had no control over, I never got why people would have the audacity to judge people over what they literally had 0 control over, just the genetic recombination events....

esperanzablanca · 2016-11-01T04:13:23+00:00

If a girl ask my height, I always ask her weight. That STFUs, and move next.

NeinAmusedMonkey · 2016-11-01T04:52:54+00:00

Once you get past 6'3, height isn't for getting girls, it's a power thing. Those guys that are "too tall and stick out" just don't play their cards right. There's more to life than girls, and if I had to choose between women and power, I'd take power any day.

omega_dawg93 · 2016-11-01T23:39:53+00:00

when broads comment or criticize my height, i simply tell them, "when i get horizontal, i can get as tall or taller than any man you know."

abbafishhead · 2016-11-02T01:32:41+00:00

Wear elevator shoes

Even Tom Cruise, Robert Downey Jr, Brad Pitt, etc. wear elevator shoes. No excuses. Get some Caltos online and start getting used to wearing them.

Beyond that, practice good posture.

Background: I'm 5'6" at best, and the majority of girls I sleep with are taller (my N-count is >100). Pad your soles and get rid of the problem once and for all. Once they're in your apartment, the battle is already won. If she calls you out on it, just say, "What does it matter? All that matters is that we're all same height in bed." Then proceed to escalate.

lqtys · 2016-10-31T15:35:47+00:00

I'm 5'5" (165cm) and most of the girls that have been not just interested, but obsessed with me have been taller than me, and is funny that almost all of them have been exactly 5'9" (175cm).

But I have a very attractive face not much different that those of famous actors and models, with an intense and beautiful eyes and smile, and very symmetric, that get girls hipnotized, and I also an artist with an enigmatic lifestyle and a IDGAF attitude, so all of this compensates my lack of stature and musculature. I still can improve in the muscle side of things and I expect it to improve things a lot.

So height is important, yes, but you can compensate.

And I have to add, Prince was 5'2", and no one doubts that he was a master fucker. Tom Cruise is 5'7".

Title	How important is height really?
Author	ApwoperMuser
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Date	October 31, 2016 12:53 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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