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How Women Train Men To Rape

tr8

January 23, 2014
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Title How Women Train Men To Rape
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Date January 23, 2014 10:26 PM UTC
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[–]Petrarch1603 25 points26 points27 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

This is the type of headline that will cause the feminist subreddits to go ape-shit.

[–]MonkeySteriods 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't forget to mention hate for short haired large women.

[–]Ethylparaben -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And?

[–]ajswdf -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Between 1 and 10 on the offensiveness scale, the headline is about a 9.5 while the article itself is about a 4. Marketing complete.

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[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not even the most overzealous feminist can deny that women derive sexual pleasure from putting up resistance, being manhandled and all that jazz.

They won't deny? Why, my good lad, don't tell me you have forgotten about the hamster?!

[–]drallcom31 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Every time this topic comes up, I just tell them about the extreme success of book like Twilight or Shades of Grey. An undenieable fact. Then I enjoy seeing their hamster rage.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Feminists and other progressive ideologues tend to weirdly disassociate consenting to things and liking things. I guess for most of us consent is just the official way of expressing that you like something. For them it is more of a vanity, autonomy, agency thing. The weirdest shit is that they say it is possible that someone can force a woman to orgasm, without consent, and on one level she will enjoy it, and on another level totally hate it. Weird to understand this. I think that another level may be pride, vanity, jealously guarded autonomy, that sort of thing.

This is my go-to assumption with progressive ideologues, that I think they are not pursuing some enjoyable goal, but more like guarding their pride or vanity or self esteem or feeling of agency somehow.

[–]suscitare 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Deep down I don't think that any human being has "agency".

[–]YOU_ARE_A_TOY -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Honest question - What type of women do you discuss this with? I think it was pretty well known these books became popular as "mommy porn." A majority of the fans were middle aged women, usually mothers, who were getting bored and whose husbands came home to the same routine sex. It seems to me the overlap between sexually active feminists and the readers of mommy porn books don't over lap too much.

Do confused women exist? Sure, but I doubt many women who discuss the above will be fans of Twilight or 50 Shades.

[–]Lilcheeks 31 points32 points33 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I briefly dated a girl who wanted sex to be initiated forcefully usually. She wouldn't be interested otherwise most of the time, and I hadn't encountered this before so I wasn't really comfortable with it. I remember her telling me about one of her many asshole exes(imagine that, all of her exes were assholes) and how he raped her. Made me wonder, did he just try to initiate the way she likes, and she decided even then she wasn't in the mood, and he couldn't tell the difference so he kept going? Probably I'm thinking.

Had another girl I was dating tell me no before the first time we fucked. I said okay no problem... to which she dropped the defense about 15 seconds later like I had totally stumped her. Stupid games.

[–]Clauderoughly 57 points58 points59 points 12 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

I have been involved with the BDSM community and even with the limited experience I have had, this is BDSM 101.

So many fucking idiot feminists have been reading 50 shades of bullshit, which is in no way a representation of BDSM.

All guys should understand the basics of BDSM, because most women have some sort of rape / domination fantasy. Women don't just want to be fucked they want to be taken and dominated. That gives them the biggest tingles imaginary.

Incorporating some basic BDSM stuff (as mentioned in the article) can really help your plate spinning and have women coming back for more and more.

[–]ilike2partyhowaboutu 17 points18 points19 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

It's amazing when you can be the type of man that women know you will push their sexual boundaries and trust you won't bury their body in the woods.

[–]Evers89 26 points27 points28 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Oddly enough, we are not rapists in waiting. They push for it themselves. I've always known this, but am still cautious when approaching this boundary...

A woman's regret would be your downfall in a heartbeat.

[–]ilike2partyhowaboutu 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Sometimes looking a woman in the eyes and telling her that if she wants you to pretend to rape her you will need some written proof that she consented sets a nifty corporate kinky vibe to it all.

And you get the written proof as a keepsake.

[–]misogynofascist 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This may not work since, legally, she could revoke consent at any time.

On the other hand it would go a long way towards proving your innocence at might at the very least make her think twice about calling rape later.

[–]Evers89 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Signed contract for sex at this point would not be all that bad. It's getting out of hand now. This never used to be an issue in the past...

[–]ilike2partyhowaboutu 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urS8GmwmeWQ

[–]qualia001 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Dave Chappelle - Love Contract

[–]Afroemo0 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

my cousins friend found out the hard way , he hook up with a girl from his social group . Everything was fine till she found out that some of her female friends had rejected him plenty of times and saw him as an creep . Although he didn't get rape charges or had to register as a sex offender , his name was tarnished .

[–]Kepaso 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

listen to this man, kids!

[–]cwm44 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

OP was so simple and clear I don't even feel like this is controversial.

[–]MockingDead 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I don't always upvote Clauderoughly.

BDSM is rife with women with dominance rape fantasies. Many dominant women want to be dominated in turn.

[–]Clauderoughly 11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I am yet to meet a feminine woman who doesn't have some sort of fantasy to be dominated.

I have met butch lesbians who are nothing but doms but no one cares about them.

Feminine women love being dominated and man handled, the more the better.

[–]MockingDead 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I am yet to meet a feminine woman who doesn't have some sort of fantasy to be dominated.

Anecdotally, I know one example, she wanted to dom, but it was only because she hadn't found an attractive man to dominate her.

[–]1iluminatiNYC 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

THIS! I have come across this type from time to time.

[–]Fetish_Goth7 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Many dominant women want to be dominated in turn.

This is so true. Dominant women are all switches.

Basically, in D/s, where it is sometimes common to have multiple submissives, the dominant women simply want to be the most dominant of all the submissives. Even women that have male subs, they usually have a more dominant husband or boyfriend in the background.

Dominant women still want to be the first officer, rather than the captain.

[–]Sirinon 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

A curious question, Since 50 shades of grey do you hear much about women attempting to get into BDSM only to realize it is NOT like that damn book ?

[–]Clauderoughly -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

All the damn time.

They expect men to just go all master on them, without an understanding of rules, safe words and boundaries.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Interesting that simplistic, manhandling domination is something that many woman likes. However complicated stuff like beating a girls ass with a cane is typically something watched by men mostly. The good old chains and manacles and and whips at the whipping posts and slavery kinda fantasy, that was photographed even 100 years ago, or was written about in the Gor novels decades ago, this somehow does not ring with most women, it stayed a more or less exclusively male fantasy.

Although when women fantasy about it they go right balls to the wall, beyond any moderateness, see The Story of O. That goes beyond weird.

[–]SomersetRaglan 22 points23 points24 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When she got home, she texted me “thanks for letting me be your slave :) .” I never called her back.

that is fucking hot. i think i have a rejection porn fetish.

[–]1InscrutablePUA 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn, this is good. Never looked at this sort of token resistance being damaging to society as a whole.

[–]tallwheel 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Glad someone has the courage to tell it like it is. Someday I want to see more mainstream acceptance of this kind of thing instead of just on sites like RoK.

[–]Kepaso 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

the 1st time i heard that women had rape fantasies,i was like 17 years old, was a true WTF moment. Since then i learned to enjoy the art of domination in bed and playing with some light BDSM stuff.Not fan of the hard core though, but being able to dominate a girl in bed is a must.

[–]Bobsutan 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This is essentially the literary equivalent of the song Blurred Lines. Many people mistakenly think it's a song about date rape when it's exactly the opposite. The singer is telling us about a woman who is sending mixed signals much like the woman the author describes in the article. Both are attempting to get a clear and concise explanation of what the women want and expect (in bed).

[–]derpconfused 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I thought it was blurred lines like "edge play", which can include more than just consent play.

[–]CuriousBitch 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

One of problems with a lot of feminists I've met is they don't expect women to do anything.

[–]______Last_Christmas 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

2 minutes into the article:

As someone who’d always been taught “no means no,” to have a woman directly tell me she ways saying “no” when she meant “yes” was shocking.

Return of Kings, proofread. Please proofread. These errors, although minor, kill an article's credibility.

[–]christiefrontdrive 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm growing to be a big fan of RoK but I feel like all of their articles would read better if the author just waited an extra day to post each of them and re-read them once or twice before he did.

[–]Kimjungillestt 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

This reminds me of my ex who was raped in high school by her boyfriends best friend at the time, and it traumatized her. Years later, shes dating me and tells me she wants to be choked while I'm fucking her. What...

[–]16 TRP VanguardTRPsubmitter 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This happens a lot actually. It's a very common mechanism for women to "take control" of their bad experiences, usually rape.

I for one have encountered it alot. Not my place to tell them how to like sex, so I participate and play along. Why not?

One girl I dated here was raped by her uncle. She wanted me to reenact alot of it, which was pretty depraved. She would struggle but then afterwards was like totally fine and happy. I actually couldn't handle this one but it was interesting and I don't regret it at all.

Another girl I wrote a Field report on here (Santa elf girl) wanted me to "rape" her. I didn't inquire about why. I'm SUPER dominant and aggressive in bed, but this was a new level. She wanted me to hit her, squeeze her painfully, bite, smother her, choke, forced anal. The works. I was pretty hesitant the first time, but it turned out great. After, she would joke "wow, you really like it even more than me.".

TLDR As long as you make sure they are cool with it, play along. have fun. It's not your responsibility to "make sure they're okay" according to your own standards. If they are okay with it, I am.

[–]derpconfused 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've heard that it is a healing experience for some people, because when they were raped they had no control over the situation. If they are fake raped, they have the power to stop it at any time because the person they're with isn't actually a rapist.

[–]meowlolcats 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

yeah the theory is that they have this terrible memory they're trying to 'rewrite' by replacing it with similar, but less traumatizing memories. This can be applied more widely to other types of trauma. The other element is that they can be desensitized, as they more exposed you are to something, the more used to it you become.

[–]TheeRyanGrey 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

As always, the more feminist a woman is or claims to be, the more rough and dominated she'll be in the bedroom.

Her body is fighting her mind so to make up for her mind's masculinity, her body needs to be ultra submissive.

Go find yourself a feminist and enjoy the nasty, filthy, no holds barred fuckfest that comes your way. Then never speak to her again.

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[–]Clauderoughly 32 points33 points34 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Naah its the SRS downvote brigade

[–]MSoftHarem 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I seriously hope you're kidding.

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[–]MSoftHarem 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

RoK is overall a good site, but it has shit content just like TRP does.

[–]MockingDead 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

God help you, x-post to /r/bdsm.

Good read, well thought out.

[–]DasWood 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A couple years ago I went on a few dates with a woman I met on OKCupid. She had 3 kids, all by different dads but was great to talk to and a smoking hot body. After the 3rd date which I thought had gone wonderful and she seemed happy at the end of it she told me she would not see me again. I asked her why, we seemed to have great chemistry. Her response was I could not handle her. I was confused. I asked her what that meant exactly. Her response stunned me.

Guess what she said that meant. Go ahead. Take 3 guesses before reading on.

She told me that because I did not rape her she couldn't see herself with me. Let that sink in a moment. Yeah, she didn't say the word rape, but she did say 'force me down and have sex with me'. My mind was fucking blown.

I get it. I don't think it's right, but I get it. I still think that she should have clued me in and told me that if she liked me so much /what/ /exactly/ she was expecting me to do. Then suddenly all the stories about creepy ass ex boyfriends made sense.

[–]COVERartistLOL 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think women having rape fantasy, encourages men to rape. Rape has always been around. Plus, people can tell the difference between rapping someone and consensual sex. If a person was being raped. They wouldn't whisper "no". They'd be screaming and fighting back. People don't just accidental rape someone. They do it as a violent act to abuse and control the other person. So no one is encouraging people to rape others.

But I do agree with some of his point. Like having safe words when role playing. And talking about how much slapping and verbal degrading is allowed.

[–]1FloranHunter 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Interestingly, this is the same sentiment Warren Farrell expressed that got feminists to call him a rapist. Women give out fake no's, weakening real no's. To achieve the standard of enthusiastic consent feminists advocate, it is necessary for women to stop putting up fake protest or at least frame it as BDSM (with all requisite precautions) as the author does.

These same feminists are as the feminist in this article: abysmally unaware of what actually constitutes consent as seen from the male POV. Even when the male is submissive, most feminists don't believe women can actually rape men w/o pegging, as evidenced by their creation and use of statistics that exclude that possibility.

[–]japantz 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

the title of this post threw me off and i read the article because i wasn't sure how this could be more than someone saying "if you don't want it, don't dress etc etc."

then as i read, i realized shit from the article has happened to me multiple times-- girls saying "no" under their breath, making noises like i was hurting them-- and when i would stop and say something they'd look at me all confused as if i was weird for not just going with it. hot damn, reading this was a legit redpill moment.

[–]1iluminatiNYC 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The headline is a bit link-baity for my tastes, but there's a great point in there. If someone is that unable to honestly communicate their desires in bed, end the party there. No pussy in the world is worth a court case because they don't know how to communicate. And besides, if they can't communicate in bed, what makes you think they're speaking clearly otherwise?

[–]drewbaccha 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I dated a girl for a time that was basically like this. I wasn't redpill at the time so I was confused as fuck about what signals she was sending. When I was alone with her at her apartment she would explicitly say she didn't want to have sex, but then go change into her lingerie and sit by me. I purposefully didn't carry condoms on me because I wont have sex without them, and this chick had the crazy vibes. I don't dip my dick in crazy.

I want to point out that she talked about rape often and would say things like "I hope I'm not raping you" or "Are you gonna rape me? teehee."

Because I didn't rape her she cheated on me shortly afterwards with her ex-fiance. I dumped her, dodged a bullet, and learned a valuable lesson all in one fell swoop.

[–]2johnnight 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was raped and now I have sex all the time (self.confession)

http://www.redditlog.com/snapshots/152277

I was raped...and I liked it (self.confession)

http://www.redditlog.com/snapshots/152281

Disclaimer: Do not use this as your personal permission to rape. The women, who got raped, might be looking for rough sex now, but the original rapist is in jail.

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[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a website for straight men doing straight men things.

Women and Homosexuals can only add to the discourse on the sideline.

99% of the content is irrelevant to women and homosexuals, their only reason for commenting would be to shit up the place.

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[–]incraved -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wtf that ending, lol.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you want to have sex with a woman to whom you are not married, have the woman sign a sexual consent form.

If they won't sign it, walk away. It's not worth it.

[–]N3vertheless -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I the Louis CK skit is the perfect example of what Red Pill philosophy should look like. We can't help but laugh at the absurdity of their minds.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The current book I'm reading has a really telling line about women in the middle ages.

Women in these troubled centuries were pitifully vulnerable to both rape and seduction.

This quote was in the context of the current English king who was a bit of a horn-dog. Basically everywhere he went he would lock-on to a woman or two and seduce them. They would be nuns, wives, maidservants, noblewomen, but did any of that matter? No! He'd fuck them all the same. This was in part because he was the king, and also because they couldn't resist his advances.

Women have always been just as vulnerable to male advances. You just have to be persistent in the right way, which is exactly how men were at the time. Of course, some men were not persistent in the right way (i.e. rapists). But overall the most successful men were the right combination of passion and desire and were able to have women if they wanted them. Men are not so much being trained to rape as they're being trained to act in that passionate, persistent way that they can't resist.

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[+]tr8[S] -15 points-14 points-13 points 12 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

You're not into RoK but you are into a fat goon telling jokes? Don't get me wrong, he's funny, but you might be in the wrong sub with those tastes.

[–]lulsause00 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago* (13 children) | Copy Link

Well fuck you and your personal fucking opinions.

the wrong sub with those tastes.

What the shit does my taste in comedy or frankly anything for that matter have to do with being RP?? Where the fuck in the sidebar does it talk about recommended personal preferences?

Just out of morbid curiosity, what type of comedy does mr.tr8 deem as redpill endorsed material??

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn. Calm yourself

[–]frazzleddd -1 points-1 points-1 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Louis's humor is bluepill. If you want someone redpill to contrast it to check out patrice o neal or bill burr

[–]lulsause00 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I don't give a shit. It's funny. I don't watch stand up for pick up advice.

[–]frazzleddd-9 points 12 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

This isn't about pick up advice. Its an outlook on life. Also quit it with the fucking tough guy shit. Its a fucking internet forum

[–]lulsause00 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Its an outlook on life.

If a little bit of dark humor affects your outlook on life at all then that means you literally have no frame.

fucking tough guy shit

I don't even know where to begin..

[+]tr8[S] -7 points-6 points-5 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Just out of morbid curiosity, what type of comedy does mr.tr8 deem as redpill??

Cocky funny. I don't know if it's in the sidebar (not exactly the bible) but CK's act is painfully beta self-deprecating stuff.

[–]lulsause00 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

A pua definition and a comedian's style literally have nothing to do with eachother. I think your pua research is bleeding too much into other parts of the world. Is louis ck trying to pickup chicks in his act or something? No, he just has the ability to laugh at himself. Its only painful if you view it that way. What's wrong with admitting failures and cracking jokes about them?

[–]suscitare 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

His act probably helps him a lot to pick up women.

[–]heist_of_saint_graft 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Meanwhile, Louie releases a comedy special every year, and writes and directs his own hit TV show, now going into its fourth season. He is nearly a household name and has made millions from his art and thoughts.

In other words: Louis CK is alpha as fuck and if you can't see that, you're brain-damaged.

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[–]thecajunone 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah him too, we know.

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