Hypergamy in action

AboveAFC · 2013-05-17T13:52:03+00:00

I personally don't think we should be too critical of this female trait. It's an evolutionary instinct. Why should a woman be attracted to a neckbearded beta?

Mammalian females have always been attracted to the Alphas. That's why most male mammals have "harems". Because many females want to mate with the "best" male.

That is why those of us who have seen behind the curtain either learn "game" or work on actual self improvement.

"Game" can trigger all of the woman's biological switches telling her to mate with this "Alpha", real or not. If used without substance, you may mate, but she will see through it eventually and you must move on. If we actually self-improve, then that shows we have the drive and willpower to execute. Women are drawn to these "top men" naturally.

While our society today tells her she most possess this man for herself, she's secretly willing to be part of his "harem" in order to get some top quality DNA.

It's not nice, but that's the reality of the situation. There's no use in getting upset at a woman for stating her biological imperative any more than there's a reason to get mad at a man who wants to sleep with multiple women. It's just biology!

delta_hedge · 2013-05-17T11:30:26+00:00

“A lot of guys know that they can go out and put minimal effort into their appearance and not treat girls to drinks or flatter them, and girls will still flirt with them,” said Felicite Fallon, a senior at Florida State University, which is 56 percent female.

and this with 56% female!

can these girls even imagine how it is for men at technical universities with 70% males?

Hoodwink · 2013-05-17T12:06:22+00:00

“Women do not want to get left out in the cold, so they are competing for men on men’s terms,” she wrote. “This results in more casual hook-up encounters that do not end up leading to more serious romantic relationships. Since college women say they generally want ‘something more’ than just a casual hook-up, women end up losing out.”

W. Keith Campbell, a psychology professor at the University of Georgia, which is 57 percent female, put it this way: “When men have the social power, they create a man’s ideal of relationships,” he said. Translation: more partners, more sex. Commitment? A good first step would be his returning a woman’s Facebook message.

I love how they re-frame this as the ideal for men when most are beta's that are aching for relationships. It's ideal for the top 10% of men that women will actually chase, but if you look at other primates, the casual sex model is when females have sexual power. Men are territorial and generally want monogamous or multiple females (who don't fuck around with other males). The fact that women are getting multiple sexual partners and less territorial relationships is a function of female sexual power in primates.

Also, the whole article ignores the fact that there are plenty of men older than those women who actively hunt those women and women almost always prefer older men. And women won't rarely date those younger than them. So the squeeze is on men when they're in college (hence all the 'game'/PUA stuff) because they can't date high school students without disparagement women older than them won't even give them the first look.

This is really ignoring what's going on in college campuses and is mostly just trying to make women the victim in some way. I might be coming off as whiny, but it's the truth that women will overlook beta's and their dating pool is severely restricted compared to those of the women.

thereisnosuchthing · 2013-05-17T16:26:55+00:00

so where's all the sympathy and analysis for men at male-dominated colleges? i went to an engineering college that was about 70% male, and the women acted just like the men described in this article: little reason to commit, cheating and leading-on all the time, and not even trying to be attractive because they know plenty of guys will still approach them no matter how fat and gross they became. it's so funny how the media does back flips to lament any difficulty women might have all while men have been doggedly going through the same shit since the dawn of time. even the rhetoric tries to paint women as victims when men exercise their sexual leverage:

Women on gender-imbalanced campuses are paying a social price for success and, to a degree, are being victimized by men precisely because they have outperformed them...

how dare those men do what's good for them! this implication that men owe women commitment is such bullshit, and you'd never see anybody try to argue that women who exercise their sexual power were victimizing men because they weren't giving men the commitment they are entitled to. all of this reeks of female entitlement.

what's worse is that so many of these women seem to think they are too good to date their male peers, even when the gender ratio is practically even. shameless hypergamy in action, indeed:

By my sophomore year, I just had the feeling that there is nobody in this school that I could date,” said Ashley Crisostomo, a senior at Fordham University in New York, which is 55 percent female. She has tended to date older professionals in the city.

rebuildingMyself · 2013-05-17T11:44:53+00:00

About as close as you'll ever get to the mainstream media acknowledging the inequality of admission rates in colleges favoring women as a bad thing.

AboveAFC · 2013-05-17T13:41:19+00:00

“Out of that 40 percent, there are maybe 20 percent that we would consider, and out of those 20, 10 have girlfriends, so all the girls are fighting over that other 10 percent,” she said.

Shit like this is posted on here all the time. It makes it seem like every single woman is competing for the 10 percent or whatever. Though maybe only 10 percent of the women are appealing. Just because guys that women don't want think that they are desirable doesn't mean that every guy thinks they are desirable. Stupid fat chicks and their over inflated egos.

nicethingyoucanthave · 2013-05-17T13:17:22+00:00

Out of that 40 percent, there are maybe 20 percent that we would consider

Yes. You're life is so very hard because you've chosen to limit yourself to the top 10% of men.

I feel like there needs to be an Onion article in which they wring their hands and relate, in breathless tones, the plight of the bottom 50%, complete with quotes like, "out of that 60 percent of women, there are 100% that we would consider dating, but none of them will" the end.

Oh, and just to be clear, everybody has a right to their sexual preferences. I don't begrudge women their high standards. I also think that a lot of the problem with that bottom 50% is of their own making. They behave in unattractive ways - they could improve themselves.

What I'm going on about in this post is not "zomg women have high standards" but rather, "they need to stop whining"

SackyHacks · 2013-05-17T14:09:15+00:00

Ok. So? Men do the same thing. Ask a man to look at a group of a dozen or so women. They will immediately dismiss at least half based on looks alone. The rest will be weeded out eventually by personality, baggage, intelligence, etc.

We're all shallow. What point am I missing here?

r_rships_account · 2013-05-17T23:28:26+00:00

No, they're chasing the top 25%. They started with 40%, remember?

Ragnar09 · 2013-05-17T22:35:41+00:00

Women can say all the shit they want but in the end nature forces them to settle.

James_Coook · 2013-05-17T13:51:05+00:00

Man I remember this article and that comment. What a blast from the past! This was before I knew what hypergamy was.

2013-05-17T20:59:26+00:00

I love how the article skips over the fact that 90% of the males at the college arent even being considered or having there needs meet and instead goes straight to telling us how these poor girls have such a hard time finding a good man because the ones they want sleep around so much..... Well maybe if you didnt exclude 80% of the pool, the remaining eligible males value wouldnt be shot through the fucking roof..they did this to themselves. All this means nothing but good news for myself, but I feel for the sexless guys out there.

2013-05-17T21:09:24+00:00

I'll just leave this here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7myjFBwDlIk

socal83 · 2013-05-17T11:42:31+00:00

This is not actually a good example. She actually said she is interested in the top 50%. (The not interested in men with girlfriends part is an obvious lie.)

I think she actually said a very large number to appear less hypergamous, more of a good girl. Your 10% is a better estimate - but she did not actually say that.

adamwho · 2013-05-17T13:19:23+00:00

Those years were a lot of fun....

mechakingghidorah · 2013-05-18T01:34:51+00:00

Gender Quotas are bitch eh women?

I bet they're regretting all those super affirmative action laws that got passed in the 80s.

2013-05-17T12:07:08+00:00

Rage. snobby little superficial tarts.

socal83 · 2013-05-17T13:56:44+00:00

that's funny i read the whole article and didn't find a single mention of chicks giving blowjobs to their section teachers and TAs, or fucking their professors or other school faculty for grades and/or for the hell of it

although i did see a girl who 'dated' older professionals in the city aka probably whored herself out for nice things

hmmmmm. lol

Purple_Pill · 2013-05-17T18:46:32+00:00

Just wanted to clarify that this article is talking Caucasian males and females and does not include other ethnic groups. Is this issue isolated to only the Caucasian males and females?

Title	Hypergamy in action
Author	Bobsutan
Upvotes	55
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Date	May 17, 2013 11:06 AM UTC (13 years ago)
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