Looking forward to getting older

bslizzle · 2017-02-20T21:42:54+00:00

Like the short post. This is something I struggle with. Being in my early 20s, it's really easy to get bogged down in the "have the best years of your life" mentality.

I would still argue that working on your SMV isn't "just showing up." The four pillars you mentioned bump your SMV. They not only require effort, they increase value to your life. I get the point that they're the baseline of what a redpiller should work for (and just being good at them doesn't mean you're unplugged), though.

Live_it_up_321 · 2017-02-21T13:22:22+00:00

I'm in my late thirties and I've never had so much luck with women. I'm more fit than I've ever been, leaner, stronger, and faster than even my high school years – all thanks to intermittent fasting, improved diet, and hitting the gym at least four hours a week (high intensity).

I've also discovered supplements. R-lipoic acid in particular has actually been shown to have anti-aging, highly antioxidant qualities. But it's the exercise and fasting that seem to have had the greatest impact on keeping me looking young. People consistently say I look like I'm 25-30 and are genuinely shocked to hear I'm a decade older.

What's really tripped me out since I got really serious about health and fitness is that the category of girls who check me out most obviously and consistently – especially when I'm out for a run – are high school girls. Of course I don't go after them or show any interest whatsoever – I'm not an idiot – but it's crazy how girls in that age bracket respond to me the most strongly. I'm thinking it's because I look like an underwear model, and girls that age are early into their sexual awareness and thus more fixated on a physical ideal.

Second most obvious group of women to show IOIs toward me are older women (in their 40s). They will blatantly stare and sometimes give me sly looks. Especially the ones who are into fitness and take care of themselves, I think because they recognize a fellow "middle-aged" gym rat.

I've also got a solid career, good salary, and while I don't exactly flaunt it, the way I dress and carry myself probably communicates a solid financial condition.

Anyway, all this is to say that, as a man, SMV not only doesn't have to decline after 30, it can actually go up. That's particularly the case if you adopt TRP principles, at least the useful/non-hateful ones.

I've surprised myself, frankly. Never been happier.

Rommel0502 · 2017-02-21T03:27:42+00:00

Im 48, and every year has been better than the last.

TheSlicemanCometh · 2017-02-20T22:34:14+00:00

Good post and good points.

If you are a western male and made it to 30 w/o getting a girl pregant and have at least some seblance of IQ and work ethic, you won the lottery.

You won the game of life.

RedSkeller · 2017-02-21T02:59:36+00:00

At 30 it feels good, even though I feel perpetually 21-23 and have received good genetics looking younger than most of my peers, I've turned slowly into a lone wolf/loner type. Grew up with close groups of friends, then everyone started getting married, having kids - none of which ever interested me. The traditional path seems boring and I never feel like myself in an LTR. That being said, I'm back at school, working full-time as a manager, lifting heavy, enjoying casual-natured relationships and I just can't imagine how my peers do without the thrill of self improvement, but I'm also at the point in my life where I am not here to judge anyone.

NeoreactionSafe · 2017-02-20T23:04:20+00:00

https://rationalmale.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/smv_curve1.jpg

Rollo has a great chart that I think is accurate.

Women peak around 23 years old and men peak around 36 years old.

After about 45 things go downhill for men. I'm 55 years old and was always in peak physical condition and the reality is your body simply begins to show it's age. Gray hair, wrinkles, skin is spotted because of too much time in the sun (white skin) so that you aren't the hot hunk anymore.

At 50 plus you need big $$$ or a high profile status position to elevate SMV.

I'm basically equal to a 35 year old post-Wall slut with poorly chosen tattoes at this point. A pretty weak selection.

A 40 year old woman would feel really lucky to have me.

Women my own age or older have essentially zero value.

Looking at the chart a 45 year old female might as well start getting some cats.

newflame97 · 2017-02-21T03:36:49+00:00

Older guys, look into HGH treatment.

My dad uses it, and he seems to think it's the fountain of youth. His appearance, overall sense of well being is much higher than when he began treatment. There are numerous benefits to using small dosages. From what I hear it is quite expensive, but certainly could be worth it.

A combination of healthy range dose TRP, HGH and good maintenance work with exercise and diet can make men much healthier as they age.

ELLIPS0ID · 2017-02-21T19:05:24+00:00

Early 40's here, never been married (engaged twice but I backed out both times) and never wanted kids. I get to do what I want, when I want and how I want. I focused on my career in my 20's and 30's to achieve my 6 figure salary and now have a large amount of disposable income to enjoy. I get on a plane and travel 2-3 times a year for vacation. I took care of my health, full head of hair, went back to the gym in my late 30's, strict diet got my 6 pack etc....I get chased by 20 year olds who think I'm still in my early 30's, it's fucking great!

By contrast most of my friends my age are divorced, some more than one ex-wife, paying out the ass in child and spousal support. They have no freedom, no time for the gym, they eat fast food everyday, beer gut, they work their asses off just to hand it over to their ungreatful ex-wife and kids they see once every two weeks. Some are unable to afford to buy a home due to all the ex-wife tax they pay...they look old, worn out tired and they're miserable.

ransay3277 · 2017-02-21T19:32:32+00:00

Good post. I'm in my mid fifties and can vouch for finding the right balance. You don't even have to be tops on these points because your competition most likely won't be. Take the gym for example... I have a badly torn shoulder so my workouts are fairly light weight. However, I don't see many guys in the gym my age. My cardio consists of a daily mile walk with my dogs. Again no heavy routine, but I stick with it. Combine that with sensible eating and I'm in better shape than 95% of the guys my age. Combine that with reasonable financial success, not dressing like a slob and having a few hobbies and life is good. Take this post to heart guys. You won't regret it.

Roaring40sUK · 2017-02-21T10:19:29+00:00

Nice post, and some great points.

As a late 40's man, the best advice I can give is "play the long game" and as Rollo says "Be your own mental point of origin".

Marriage (and kids) will eat you up and spit you out fatter, poorer, and mentally weak.

Excercise, read, eat well, stay out of the sun, work smart, and the pussy will still be there.

vengefully_yours · 2017-02-21T09:48:05+00:00

The reason older men are inherently more valuable in the SMP is because there are so few of them left.

Partly. Those older men who have achieved something are valued, those who are fat loser fucks are not. Men are judged on accomplishment, capability, and knowledge. If you've achieved, it shows. There are fewer men who are older that aren't losers, because many will marry taking themselves off the market, or they're busy with the important shit in life. Young men have yet to do much, they lack experience and knowledge, and it shows.

At 30 it's fun, your options open up, at 40 they open a bit farther. I'm nearing 50 and it's easy to get attractive 20 year olds in bed. Lately the 28-30 girls have been trying to get my attention more than just a few years ago. If I fuck a girl over 33, she had earned it somehow. The young ones only need to be thin and available, but without the tells that inform me that the bitch is crazy or high drama. Last summer I passed on a college freshman who was eye fucking me while we drove around in my car, just turned 18. The reason I passed on her was I had other shit to do. Every year there is a new crop of 18 year old girls coming into the world. There is no shortage of them and they like an older man who had muscle, confidence, and knows not only what he wants but how to get it.

Don't be fat, don't be a skinny loser, and don't try to be something you're not (meaning trying to fit in with kids) and pussy gets easier as you age.

Johnnyvile · 2017-02-21T03:49:10+00:00

Just turning 33 nothing has bothered me more than seeing good friends I have had since I was a teenager or early 20s not growing. They're my age or a little older and have the same skills they had at 24 and do the same things. I screwed off through all of my 20s playing in bands and working the service industry so I had more free time to party and get women. At 28 I decided to stop all of that and focus on my career, skills, personal education, and knowledge because I didn't want to be a loser in my 30s.

It wasn't easy, the jobs sucked for a bit but I kept trying and moved up to a successful career making good money, I work out a lot, and have many useful skills. Many people see the success they want but put in no effort to get there.

vodkamonsta · 2017-02-21T01:11:59+00:00

There are a lot of posts like this here that are almost zero substance, "lift dude it works!" and everyone goes "yeah dude it does!".

Every day your competition is getting weaker and weaker by getting married

This is terrible advice.

Don't assume that. Do not assume anything, do not assume things magically get better. yes you will grow up or be more financially secure or better at what you do because you are doing it. Things get better by default if you aren't a glutton or junky.

Don't assume anything just magically gets better then it would based on things completely outside of your control.

Title	Looking forward to getting older
Author	hawkeaglejesus
Upvotes	105
Comments	50
Date	February 20, 2017 9:24 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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