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[–]ManguZa63 points64 points65 points 5 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
If she broke up with you it means that you didn't do half as well as you though.
"The break up was all stress related" yeah gaslight yourself. An enamoured girl would come to you for stress relieving, not break up.
[–]forthegiggles1[S] 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Very true. I think I ended up testing her a bit out of my ego. Pushing her a bit to see how she would react. My frame is generally pretty good with the occasional fuck up. I'm just curious as to what the fuck to do. Every last breakup ended up coming back. I think they say 50% of relationships end up back together. I'm getting too old to deal with the stress of breakups.
[–]lefty92913 points14 points15 points 5 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
Time to move on brother. Abundance mentality
The most wasted years of your life are the ones spent chasing a girl who isn’t interested
The problem is the ones who aren’t interested, even some of the nice ones, will lead you on and dangle a carrot here or there because the attention is good feelz
They will never be the person to say “hey, I can tell you’re into me but I’m really not that into you” even though it would free you. A man needs the fortitude to move on without that closure, and abundance mentality to realize there’s so many other options
[–]forthegiggles1[S] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Appreciate it.
Been there done that. It's funny though because the ones that I had oneitus for ages ago actually have all come back wanting me for long term. Only issue is i've gotten over them and realize they are scum. Yea this girl was super reserved which is why I am so dumbfounded at this whole thing. I know all girls suck but she was on the lesser side of the "i'm just going to get up and leave over some stupid shit" side.
[–]lefty9291 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
In time your perspective will change on this one too. Right now your oneitis is in control
[–]Endorsed Contributorsadomasochrist3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Here's the thing. There's no "winning." That's why TRP is formulated in the way it's formulated. If you were more accomodating, then she'd just hamster that "well... he's been sort of smothering me and something is just off..."
What probably happened is she vented to her backups, someone swooped in and she slept with someone she had some connection with. Doesn't even need to be better, just different and a connection.
She broke it off because the relationship was truly over at that point and she's building a new one. She doesn't think about you at all.
Tough break, classic example of "she's not yours, it's just your turn."
[–]forthegiggles1[S] -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Ouch lol. Only reason i'm sweating this is because they almost always come back.
[–]Endorsed Contributorsadomasochrist4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
The usual reason for that is that they find someone who is more viscerally attractive but they get pumped and dumped. Women can easily find other men that are more attractive to screw them (It is innate to SMV pairing and competition mechanics), it is difficult to replace long term partners they're attracted to, they have connections with etc.
It's fine to take one back, but permanently demote her to plate. Tell her she's a girlfriend or whatever but treat her like a plate. Exactly what she's doing to you when she comes back, but in reverse.
When a woman comes back after a failed branch swing she never mentioned what really happened and insists on gaslighting you into the false reality that she "just really missed you" while treating you like a backup pedestal to stand on to get just a little bit higher to grab that next branch.
So play the same game and keep your heart in check, if you can. If you can't, accept reality and stay NC no matter what.
[–]forthegiggles1[S] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You think messaging her is an awful idea?
Did the same exact thing with my other EX. She cheated. We broke up and I started playing the field. Found a new girl and the ex magically came back begging. I then proceeded to just use her sexually and lead her on. I then made her break up with her new boyfriend. Once she broke up with her new boyfriend I proceeded to date my new girlfriend lmao. I still keep her around just to fuck with her based off of what she did in the past.
You think I should play the waiting game or message her? I'm thinking moving on + waiting for her to come back but everyone has a different opinion on messaging their ex.
[–]Endorsed Contributorsadomasochrist1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Of course it's an awful idea. If she wants anything to do with you she'll give you at the very least an excuse. (You left the wrapper of your snickers bar at my house)
[–]forthegiggles1[S] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
True lol. It just feels weird not being able to contact her at all. Before she was like a whole different girl where if I called she would get annoyed but never held it against me. I feel like she did a 180 and got evil all of a sudden.
[–]Endorsed Contributorsadomasochrist0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah because you were and are dead to her.
[–]Sam_Hog26 points27 points28 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Red pill answer: forget her and move on. Have an abundance mentality.
I don’t believe in “she was the best girl” bullshit. Chances are, there’s plenty of other women out there who are probably “better” than her with whom you might develop an even better relationship.
[–]forthegiggles1[S] 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Definitely loads of good ones. I'm just getting older and sick of nothing substantial. The way this one ended seemed wayyy too premature. I think I pushed it a little and she basically reacted. Too tired to finish school. I make very good money but in more of a hack way than most girls looking for something "stable".
[–]bernierbruh15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
This is really more of an askTRP question and this post will probably get nuked but to make it short, you've got oneitis and you need to get over it. Yes it will suck, probably for a while but it's best to get this out of your system early. In the state you are in she won't take you back and even if she did it won't go well. Woman are a reward for having your own mission, being happy and fit, not a crutch when you are down and angry. If you absolutely think you need a crutch right now, get a dog. Otherwise, find your happy place on your own, keep dating until you meet another cool chick and do your best to forget this girl, it didn't work out, it happens, it's nobody's fault. Move on.
[–]forthegiggles1[S] 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Appreciate that. Yea tbh I'm here looking to get nuked. Only way to do it I think. IMO it wasn't really my state but more of hers. She went off the deep end emotionally. Every last relationship i've been in they always come back. It's just so fresh i'm at a loss of what to do. Have hit up the dating apps but not having a companion drives me fucking nuts.
Do you think a dog would be beneficial? Was thinking about getting one for my birthday.
[–]bernierbruh9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
A dog will love you better than a woman ever will.
[–]forthegiggles1[S] -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Appreciate this. Maybe i'll get a dog. Only issue is when she comes back i'm hoping I haven't fully moved on. She made a fucking shit decision in a time of stress. Was way out of her character.
[–]KinkyPinkHighTeck1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
And it'll come out much cheaper too, half the price of a woman
[–]forthegiggles1[S] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
True lol. Money isn't really an issue but a dog does sound super appealing right now. Where i'm stuck is every girl i've had in the past always comes back. It's so fresh I feel like I can still just switch it to my advantage if she comes back. I'm not some crazy alpha but i've had enough experience where I can make situations work. I'm halfway between redpill and wanting a relationship if that makes sense. Have done the banging random girls for years thing and it sort of makes me depressed. This community is the absolute fucking best though in terms of support. Nothing gets you in gear better than getting fisted by 30 strangers who have your back.
[–]KinkyPinkHighTeck1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Haha facts my man, cheer up, chicks are just chicks, they're always gonna be around.
[–]forthegiggles1[S] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Appreciate that. So you think I should just go no contact and see what happens? I'm guessing messaging her is an awful idea?
[–]TheWanderer0077 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
I’ll be nicer than I planned on in this post:
-Delete her off social media
-Keep lifting and have a good diet
-pick up a new hobby
-game new chicks
I keep it so short because having been there, I know it’s useless to sit here and monologue on and on to make you feel better. It’s gonna suck for a few months, probably even a year or more. But you know what you need to do and you’ll either do what needs to be done to get over it or you won’t and you’ll be a depressed cunt for awhile.
I was that depressed cunt for over a year. Don’t do what I did even though I know you probably will. Good luck
[–]forthegiggles1[S] -3 points-2 points-1 points 5 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
I normally bounce back super fast. I just fucking HATE it. My morals are too good to throw away any relationship with a person ever.
Bouncing back isn't really the issue. It's more the way it ended. Seemed so fucking premature just because she was on a power trip. Every other girl i've been with has come back. I'm just not sure how quickly I should actually move on.
[–]TheWanderer0072 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You fail to see the full circle of things. You say bouncing back isn’t the issue and it’s how things ended, but how things ended has you here groveling to an Internet forum for help.
Yes you do need to bounce back, whether that’s from the break up itself, how it ended or something else, stop lying to yourself
[–]just_sauce0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Do your morals also dictate that you have to make choices that only lead to you being miserable? Because you should probably consider getting some different morals if that's the case.
[–]forthegiggles1[S] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
lmao maybe I need to be start being a dick again. I never get fucked over when i'm a dick.
[–]just_sauce1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
That's a common response, and it doesn't not work. Personally, I'm a generally very kind and gentle guy, but, I enforce my boundaries with an absolute iron fist. I'm not a dick about it, and really, if anything, being a dick is usually just you falling into someone else's frame. It might get the job done, but if that's the cost, it's not worth it and you need to find a different way to go about it.
The essence of this idea is that nobody can make you feel anything or do anything. You are responsible for every aspect of you, you can pretend like you're not, but the world is going to cuck you for your trouble.
If you learn anything from this thread, it should be that this whole thing is 100% your fault. Take responsibility, make changes to avoid this in the future, stop being a bitch.
[–]forthegiggles1[S] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Yup. I think by being a dick I meant more ignoring girls etc. I fell a bit into the trap of the woman. I’m an extremely good dude who generally holds frame at all costs. I think what happened with the relationship was she ran out of games and this was like the final game that could hurt me. Still sorta feels like a shit test. On the other hand the unknown especially with winter depression kicking in hurts like fuckinh hell
[–]just_sauce0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
You're not getting it, and it's really sad. Let me lay it out for you.
a bit into the trap
You fell completely into the trap. 100%, hook, line, and sinker. Don't kid yourself
dude who generally holds frame at all costs.
You didn't, you were acting 100% in her frame and she got bored of you.
she ran out of games
Women never, ever, not in a million lifetimes, will ever run out of games. She got bored, because you were a boring plaything that she got bored of, likely because she has other, better, in person options.
winter depression kicking in
Vitamin D3 and K2 supplements, 1000IU per 25lbs of body weight. There's no such thing as winter depression, only cucks who don't spend enough time outside and are too dumb to take supplements. Add that to your stack, take protein, lift heavy weights, get 8 hours of sleep every night.
hurts like fuckinh hell
If this is appreciably bad pain, you've lived a privileged bitch life and the pain is good for you at this point because hopefully it'll let you grow a pair. If you were actually redpilled, a woman telling you to fuck off would be as pedestrian as taking a piss, ie it should happen at least once before breakfast and you won't even remember it with any clarity by dinner.
[–]forthegiggles1[S] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
What’s k2? Hurts like hell because of the situation. I let my guard down. She lives in an area ripe with dudes. I live in a much rougher climate where life will grab you by the balls regardless. That + the fresh breakup hurts like hell. Not afraid of rejection. Pissed because I lost 1.7 years on a girl.
[–]just_sauce0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
K2 is a vitamin that lets you adsorb the D3. Absolutely essential, so much so that most d3 supplements already have K2 in them.
And you only lost 1.7 years because you were dumb. You've got to accept that. You should have been spinning plates, and hell, if you had been, it probably wouldn't have fell apart because your frame wouldn't have been shit.
[–]forthegiggles1[S] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. I’m taking d3 I’ll grab some k2. Anything else you can recommend?
[–]NovicePilgrim6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
It's over. She's gone.
I once read here that the worst thing about breakups is not the loss of the SO, but the undiying hope of coming back together. It's true.
You are going through some extreme oxytocin withdrawal. Withstand. And let go as much as you can. A part of you will always want her back, even as years go by. Its okay. It is just a scar. It will ache from time to time.
Go no contact and never look back.
[–]dontrelapsem82 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I wish people understood love is just withdrawal and none of the personality traits they euphemise about. Love is impossible to form unless you convince your brain to pair bond towards these “valuable” traits you think your partner has
[–]forthegiggles1[S] 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Probably one of the smarter comments here. I definitely built a bunch of her good traits up. That + attention. Only problem is love feels fucking good.
[–]dontrelapsem80 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
My trp phase went like this: 1. Weak frame, bluepill assuming women can handle responsibility. Wanted a partner for life 2. Fixed my shit up and learned game, practiced in the field. Realized women respond the best to game, being nice to her is cope. I had a girl pay thousands to fuck me at some point and I never lifted or had money, all I had to do was subconsciously demonstrate SMV. 3. Went bluepill again in hopes that there’s possibility we’re all wrong. From this I learned that love is the biggest obstacle that will get you to game your dream girl
Love is poison brother. That’s really all it is. Love will convince you had it in the bag the entire time while there is a man out there who never had to love or work for any of her attention. Abandon it and in the future, when you meet the next girl, the both of you will be much happier than you think. Never blame women for weak game
[–]forthegiggles1[S] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I appreciate this. I think bottom line is I just need to get my head straight and hopefully fall into the next one. Shit hurts like hell though.
[–]btrpb5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Why do you say you've been red pill for 10 years? You've been in LTRs, long distance relationships, and are holding out for a virgin?
I think you need to stop kidding yourself and go back to basics.
Correct. That's basically why I came back. Need to get blasted. Yea i've basically taken everything I can from the redpill and translate it into my relationships. Sort of a 50/50 approach that has worked for me. The redpill is good for majority of things. On the other hand each person needs to take majority of the knowledge here and make it work for their individual self. I've tried certain tactics from here and have had great success but also great failure. It's when I take the knowledge and tweak it a bit it really works out.
[–]just_sauce0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
a 50/50 approach
It hasn't been working out because you're half assing it.
Either go full bluepill, marry some 5/10 bitch who won't respect you and cheat on you after popping out 3 kids, at which point cuck-lationshipadvice will tell you to leave her, and she'll cuck you for alamony and child support for the rest of your miserable existence.
Or, actually read the sidebar, start over, be a man and forge your own path in life and find real happiness.
That's the plan. I just have to start. And this is the kick in the balls I think I need.
[–]Vista13375 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'll keep it simple.
A long distance relationship is not a relationship, you're just pen pals (like someone else said). Please try to avoid getting yourself in LDRs in the future.
Also, she probably got another dude chatting with her in her social circle that got her interested, so at the slightest inconvenience she broke things off with you. Not exactly your fault - It's fine, happens all the time in LDRs (hence why you should avoid them). I know it sucks but try to move on, the best recipe is lifting and of course going to a club with your friends and chatting with other girls, you'll get through it! Good luck.
Yea I think a big part was her social circle. Extremely wealthy + good looking + high status. I'm more of an alpha than the other dudes in the fact that i don't give a fuck.
That's where this hurts like crazy. Seems like she got super stressed, lost her mind, did something stupid. Girls come back in a lot of cases. The fact that she made the decision when she was on a mental breakdown is what drives me nuts.
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[–]forthegiggles1[S] 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Question. When you say if she doesn't fuck then run what do you mean? Just curious cuz the last 2 relationships I was in had hella sex but were AWFUL relationships. Like the amount of bullshit just wasn't worth it. I can still command them to this day. I can still hit them up to this day and they will give in. This girl had a super low libido because of stress. (health issues, work, school, etc). But was still the most comfortable situation i've been in.
Definitely a virgin. Super reserved jewish girl. Hasn't even had dudes over her house.
Everything else I agree 100%. Everything ended up turning into a game with her to the point where I just couldn't win.
[–]albino_red_head0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
listen to his points. You didn't provide drama, you didn't command sex, AKA she was never attracted enough to you to have sex with. I know you're saying she was low libido, but when she's long distance and low sex drive, whos to say? If she were attracted to you, it would be game over man. You may have just been an emotional tampon for her. she would dump her stress on you AND not have to put out? That sounds like an orbiter situation.
My advice would be to move on. I know you think you're too old to date, but my best male role models have been older guys (40-50+) who are single. They play the field. They have fun. They don't have anyone else to worry about except the girl of the week they bring in their circle, and if there is none that week? freedom. You need to change your perspective and embrace the fact that you didn't get married before 30. You're in better shape then a lot of men on TRP for that fact alone.
[–]forthegiggles1[S] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
100% correct. Just with family and shit and i'm sort of in a weird industry atm.
What do you mean by provide drama?
[–]albino_red_head0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You’d rather have a woman pissed off at you than be a vanilla nice guy. Think of when you’re passing shit tests, you’re usually making a little drama because you’re either calling them out on something or flipping their words in a way to deflect, it’s all drama. Women are emotional creatures, so they can go from one end of the spectrum to the other in a blink, and it makes them feel something. Often going from pissed off to happy is what they might describe as being in love because you made them feel a way they didn’t think possible.
There should be more on it in the sidebar, honestly not sure if I did the purpose any justice.
Yea that makes sense. Basically what the entire relationship was. Her telling me how much she hated me because I made her feel a whirlwind of emotions 24/7. She loved me, hated me, loved me, hated me etc. But I was always as rock solid as could be. Was a dick, then sweet, etc.
That's where i'm stuck. I think even if she found someone recently she will have a hard time finding what I gave her. The past few girls have all come back simply for that fact. I have had my ex back for sex so many times just to toy with her at this point. I know how to handle women, which is what drives me nuts as well.
[–]muricanwerewolf16 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Oneitis, a need to be in a relationship to feel good about yourself. You didn't learn as much as you thought.
[–]forthegiggles1[S] -5 points-4 points-3 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
True but the past 10 years I haven't been happy unless i've been in a relationship. Like severe depression when I'm on my own. I used to fuck girl after girl early 20's but got sick of it. If you look around there are a lot of happy long term relationships. Probably oneitus but even the girls I used to date still come back saying i'm their favorite.
[–]WeDontLetHateWin4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Do you even lift? Sounds like you don’t. “Haven’t been happy unless on a relationship” gtfo with this bullshit.
Read the sidebar. Start lifting. And read the sidebar. You’re no ones favorite and no one cares. And that’s fine.
[–]forthegiggles1[S] -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This is the reason i'm here right now. I need an honestly brutal kick in the ass from guys who are doing it right. Getting back into it atm. Lifted heavily for years but past 8 or so it's been on and off.
[–]monadyne2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
muricanwerewolf1 is right: if the source of your feeling good is outside yourself, i.e., from this girl, or from people's approval/validation of you, then you're missing the point of TRP. You need to learn to feel good just being yourself. And the only approval that matters is if you approve of/accept/validate yourself.
The confidence you gain from being yourself will attract others to you. And if it doesn't? Who gives a fuck?! The only opinion that counts is your own.
The start of this journey is you recognizing deficiencies you have and correcting them. That's the work.
[–]forthegiggles1[S] -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Appreciate that. Yea this shit is tough as hell. All of my sources of joy were from myself. Making money, building my business etc. Only problem is without a girl that's there for ya you can never fully reach 100% imo. I feel like the average joe can reach like 30% on their own, 80% with the redpill, and 100% with a solid relationship. I think they add an energy and comfort that can't really be obtained on your own. I know this sounds beta as fuck but there is something relaxing about having a good woman in your life. Takes a lot of the stress away and allows you to fully achieve what you want. It just sucks super bad when you put your trust into them and they fuck both you and them because they are petty.
I don't mind being alone or hitting the field. Only issue is the breakup felt like it was super premature.
[–]JensenMse2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Having a breakup fresh in the mind sucks. You forget who you were before dating this girl...the man who attracted her in the first place. That the best place to start.
Only time will heal those wounds. In the meantime, work on yourself and your purpose. Go out and enjoy your life. Do what ever you want for yourself. Time will show you that there's literally more girls out there who are better deserving of your time and attention over your ex.
[–]Casanova-Quinn2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Most recent gf was 1.7 years long distance. BEST relationship i've had so far even though it was long distance.
My man, you won't like this, but here's the truth:
I’m sorry to break this to you, but there is no such thing as a long distance relationship. That’s correct, you have no relationship. An LDR simply does not meet the criteria necessary for it to be considered a legitimate relationship. There is no reciprocity of anything more than words passing over a phone line or an IM text. Understand me here – you have no relationship. You have self-assumed accountability, self-assumed liability and internalized responsibilities to be loyal to this person. You are entertaining a commitment to fidelity with an idealization, and ignoring what everyone outside of your LDR will regularly tell you is insanity. LDRs are one of the more insidious forms of ONEitis.
Now read the rest of this article, twice.
It's from the TRP Godfather himself, Rollo Tomassi.
[–]1arakouzo2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
For someone who has been reading The Red Pill for ten years, you're doing a lot of strange things.
You were in a long distance relationship. Unless you were having sex with other women, this doesn't make a lot of sense. Agreeing to be in a relationship where you're not regularly having your sexual needs met because this one special woman is just so darn great is not something I would expect to see from a guy who's been adhering to the Red Pill way of thinking for 10 years.
You're clearly elevating this girl on a pedestal and trying to use The Red Pill to achieve the blue pill fantasy. You believe that if you can find the right girl who checks off certain boxes on paper and you check off certain other boxes on paper, you can have a happy and successful relationship that never ends or goes badly. You believe that because her dating history didn't involve "jocks" but was mostly "nerdy" guys, and you are "the most athletic dude shes dated", and her sex history wasn't super-slutty, that you're in and are on to making a great wife out of her, right?
You make sure to let us know how you've been this perfect Red Pill guy on paper who's passed shit tests left and right, but maybe made a few minor errors like this one time you were a little needy or something. This dogged adherence to rules and checklists sounds borderline autistic, by the way.
Then, like most relationships (especially "long distance" ones), she dumps you out of the blue during a time when she's really "busy" or "stressed" and you do something that annoys her.
This wasn't a special girl or a special relationship. This is literally every single normal relationship. Every guy here could tell you a story almost exactly like this one. It ran its course. You were dumb to put up with something long distance or to elevate this girl to something special in your mind.
Agreed and this is why i'm here. The sex thing isn't a big issue. I have no issues getting sex. I'm about 50% redpill/ 50% long term relationship sorta dude. I have basically found a balance that works. Bottom line is I think I let a few of my redpill tendencies to fly out the door and it ended me up in this situation.
I'm also a dude that couldn't be fucked with a lot of the girl drama. That's why this was appealing. Lets me stack money and do my thing without all the strings attached. Got to know her and liked the situation. The stress of finding girls prevents me from making the type of money I enjoy making.
[–]Neldot2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link
Here is my experience, man (sorry, it's pretty long).
I know very well the type of girl that you describe here. In my youth, I suffered for a decade long oneitis for a girl exactly like that (timid, intellectual type, very reserved, great connection, still virgin). That type of girl is a total trap.
Now that I'm more experienced I recognize that she was a particular kind, here in Italy we call them "Acqua cheta" (still waters) to mean that they seem to be peaceful and harmless, but they have all the potential power to drown you. This girl will destroy your frame first, and then your heart with expert manipulation, often they do it naturally, without even realizing how hurtful it is for you. They have a sort of frozen heart and total control over their feelings. They're a lot more dangerous than a cheater or a thot, because they appear so innocent that you will open them your heart, only to have it invariably broken. And innocent they are, but it's because they're not really interested in sex, and they will give it to you sparingly or also totally negate it just to manipulate you into being always in the "chasing phase" with her.
After I finally break up with her, It took me years to recover, and now, 15 years later, and a lot of redpills after that, I still dream of her from time to time. This is how dangerous they are.
So the abundance mentality will help you here too, because you have to realize that she is not really unique, she is just a particular type of girl, less common but, because of her peculiarities, a lot more dangerous for your mental health. So you have absolutely to forget her now, because the more it lasts your relationship with her, the more years you have a connection with her, the more seriously she will fuck your mind.
[–]forthegiggles1[S] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Fucking amen. You guys are awesome, thank you. I need this massive kick in the balls to regain my sanity I think. It's amazing how many men will have your back in this world.
[–]Neldot0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
No problem pal. It's still therapeutic for me too to vent it out. And it's been 15 years ago. Imagine how dangerous this type of girl is...
Damnn 15 years? I think everyone has them tbh. I’m about to just lower my standards I think lol. Once I was happier with myself I was able to lower my standards and be happy.
[–]Neldot0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That's the spirit. And most importantly, rebuild your frame, because the "still waters" girl surely has silently dismantled it.
[–]forthegiggles1[S] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Right lmao. Yea my frame is rough right now. It’s amazing how much support there is out there though. All my friends, girls I know etc are all like fuck that bitch. It’s just hard knowing your partner isn’t there
[–]Kryptic_Knight1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
OP, you simply mistook yourself as a high level player in the game, when in fact, you're just a neophyte who got oneitis. Now that you're aware of this, the fixes;
Long distance = more plates for you to be with in your general area.
You should have had her passing your shit tests, basically, more negs for her.
She was never your GF, you were pen pals, essentially making you her diary, don't let your pride keep you delusional, you gained nothing, but gave up your most precious commodity...time.
Yea definitely not a master but also pretty fine tuned. Basically took what i've learned and translated it into something that works for myself.
The time thing is one of the biggest issues for me. I got a bit trapped by the promise of a future. She gets her head in a shit spot and leaves because I showed some weakness.
[–]pehsxten1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Focus on mission. Spin plates.
Amen lol. If I don't go nuts this is the ideal situation.
[–]Domebeers1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
lol I kinda stopped reading after "I'm crying about losing a girl I was in an LDR with". Very redpill...
stop being a pussy
True but this was a long term investment kind of thing. Two similar families. Decently well off, etc. I'm just worried i'll be stuck with some trashy as bitch with nothing good going on. Shit sucks.
[–]nayvote1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
So y'all have never even fucked?? What value were you providing besides attention, allowing her to indulge her needs as an attention whore?
Still a virgin, has only hooked up with a few guys up until her mid 20's.
Literally what?
True but tbh I couldn't be fucked with girls anymore. I can get sex whenever I want. It worked because it lets me do my thing without having to deal with the BS. The knowing someone is there checkbox looked nice. Along with the fact that she has her shit together. Since the breakup i've chilled with 4 different girls. Talked to 10. I know I sound like a bitch but it's a weird dynamic.
[–]DKN30 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
My answer is move on, but if you want to talk to her just talk to her and make ends meet again
That's the ideal situation. I'm just debating if I message her am I actually shooting myself in the nuts. I feel like messaging her might just push her away further.
[–]tugjobterry2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It will. I know it sucks now, but everyone on here is giving you solid advice by telling you to hit the gym. Focus on a goal or two for the next three months (maybe 1 gym goal and 1 career/personal goal). Put your energy into improving for the next three months and then reevaluate if you want to reach out. You’re aware on a logical level that you shouldn’t message her. And I know on an emotional level you want to, but trust your brain. Radio silence will make her question if she did the right thing. You messaging her won’t. Good luck brother
Amen. Words of wisdom right here. Thank you for that.
[–]DKN30 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
What do yo got to lose? Take care man, I’m MGTOW for life
True. I think it was more the life I built up in my head. I'm generally a pretty depressed dude. I need confidence again but it's tough as you get older and want to settle down. Early 20's I was banging girls left and right. It's different now though.
[–]DKN30 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I’m older and I get a ton of Pussy man, don’t be depressed, just get your shot together, but anything you want and take the leap of faith
lmao true I guess. This shit fucking hurts.
[–]dasanman690 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The break up could very well be a shit test of its own. Women do and say shit from their emotions. If things were going as well as you say they were she'll realize her mistake and come back.
Btw, what's done is done, don't beat yourself up pondering what you did wrong.
I appreciate that a lot. That's what i'm hoping. I ALWAYS go no contact and they almost always come back.
I'm thinking I should probably just go no contact and move on. If she comes back she comes back?
[–]DeputyDomeshot0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
FYI long distance doesn’t work if it’s not temporary- as having an actual plan in place to move together within a year dude. It gets old quick for both people and you gonna have dudes moving in when you’re not there.
I’ll give you some not so red pilled advice: man tf up put your cards on the table and tell her you’re gonna commit to moving closer together, lay out a plan I’m talking a real plan with an established timeline that you can adhere to. You have to show you’re serious otherwise you’re wasting your time.
Here’s the rp advice: you’re wasting you’re time you have oneitis, do not reach out to your ex understand any circumstance, focus on other chicks and only engage her if she wants to talk about seeing each other again. No friendly middle man bullshit, do not engage in that under any circumstances.
But this win her back slow play shit is gonna make you sound desperate as fuck because you can’t get no pussy in your area. Don’t do that dumb shit that will never work on a decently attractive girl.
Yea getting laid isn't a real issue. Was in the same bed as 2 girls last weekend. Nothing sexual but it's available. Have had a bunch of other girls show interest. Also my ex's will give me pussy whenever I want.
Only issue is I haven't heard from her in 2 weeks. You think I should drop the bomb if she comes back? Is messaging her an awful idea? I was thinking about giving it a month and see what happens. Only problem is it's so hard to tell.
The IFFY part about the situation is her parents are SUPER conservative. They want her to marry a lawyer, doctor, etc. I'm some rough around the edges dude with a good paycheck and good morals. Same religion though. When she flipped out she said she never wants me to be part of her family. Basically shit to just hurt me. Maybe this is a shit test IDK.
[–]monkmodeimprove0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah man I’m actually this low right now. I found out she went going out w some dude that she used to talk shit about and someone I used to be sort of close with. But what can you do? Likely she is talking to someone new so maybe you should keep or start doing the same. For me I am wanting to create somebody new. No girls for me for a little while until I learn to control my frame. Use the fact that she didn’t want you as fuel. I was wanting to quit on a run because I was tired then I remembered the situation with her and pushed through. She’s not as important as your mind is tricking you to believe. I also recommend reading “Detox” on Rollo’s blog! You got this.
Hurts like fucking hell. Yea i'm trying to better myself right now. Only so much you can take though throughout the years.
[–]guynpdx0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There's no such thing as a LDR. Read the sidebar.
[–]NormalAndy0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oneitis- move on, you’ve had your turn.
[–]Chadster1130 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
"she's still a virgin but has only hooked up with a few guys"
Are you stupid or do you not know what a hook up is?
100% she's a virgin. She's only done oral and shit and wasn't a huge fan. From a super reserved family and I think she was nerdy as hell growing up. Very religious too.
[–]delicoban330 points1 point2 points 5 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
I feel for you man. My advice would be avoid reading comments because only thing they cause is pure knife stabbings into your heart. You don't deserve this. Most people here do not try to rationally explain the situation they massage their ego by giving these destroying comments and show how red-pilled they are. Let's come to what to do.
2 Being left is a really strong feeling. From evolutionary aspect it means death. It hurts a lot. Be prepared for pain waves. You will feel better around friends because it will give your primal brain the message "I am not left for dead". I hope your smv is high. Because dating other women will be helpful for pain to go from 9/10 to 3/10. That's all the change we need here. Solve your primal feeling of loneliness with a plan of yours. It will be a painkiller.
3 Use the remaining pain for improving yourself.
If you focus on number 1, you might get her back but it will be different and you know this. You gotta plate her and improve your confidence after dumping her. I wish you patience.
Note: Don't read people online about breakups because you get different meanings and heart pains from everyone of them for no reason. Excuse my language by the way I am not a native speaker.
Extremely helpful thank you very much. It's amazing how guys will always 100% go out of their way to help out of kindness. SMV is good enough. Have a few acne scars but i'm probably about a 7. Confidence and vibes I give off are super super strong. I'm also super solid when in social situations.
I was thinking about leaving her up on my snapchat maps. She's the only one that i let view it. That way she may get into the pattern of checking it. Might cause some dread.
She isn't that good looking. Probably about a 6 out of 10. I am attracted to her though. I would say I am higher in that regard. She has a much higher social status though. (think beverly hills type)
I've played the no contact game with SUPER good looking girls in the past. This super hot doctor I used to flirt with actually came out of the woodworks while I was with this new girl. Saying shes never had chemistry with anyone like me in her life. Unfortunately I turned her down because i was with this girl.
I think you are right about the friend part. Hung out with my best friend, his gf and her friend last weekend. We all ended up sharing the same bed. They all have thier shit together beyond belief. Felt super good for the short term but here I am now lmao.
So you think best way to get her back is just to do me? I have enough money where I have a good amount of freedom.
[–]delicoban330 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Getting her back? Well you might think it that way at first. First priority is your self respect. Because after one year you dont want to say "wish I didn't contact her to hear her behaving me like I am just a loser". She will be a bitch if you contact. She will kill your confidence which eventually will feel more lonely. Rock solid no contact with a rock solid frame afterwards. Like everything went well for you. Use more painkiller(friends or plates) there is nothing you can do at this point. Show no weakness. And you will win. Either by losing her or getting her back as a plate. But you will thank yourself later that you kept your frame and didnt be a loser.
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