One question that will keep almost every young man on TRP up at night and one that he might find a less than fulfilling answer to.

ozaku7 · 2017-06-03T03:39:22+00:00

You're looking at life the wrong way. LTR is still realistic, you just need to look at it with the TRP glasses on and make the best of it. Just because someone told you that Santa doesn't exist doesn't make Christmas suck. You need to see Christmas for what it really is, find the things you enjoy in it and celebrate it in a new sort of way.

All you hear is "cuck, oneitis, plate spinning" and whatnot, whatever rocks your boat. Nothing is safe, nothing is secure, enjoy your life on earth and don't let the red pill take over your life, because that isn't healthy either. It's a tool, not a purpose.

Prophets_Prey · 2017-06-03T01:53:59+00:00

Without marriage, there is no family; without family, there is no society. This is the decline that we are told to enjoy - to get while the getting's good. Without the drive to procreate, there is no incentive to continue to produce/innovate. What then is there to enjoy?

trp333 · 2017-06-03T01:54:15+00:00

I love how he wraps a question in a bunch of insults

TheSameDifference · 2017-06-03T03:06:08+00:00

Throwing around a ton of daddy's money with paid models around is NOT redpill.

SuperSneekerz · 2017-06-03T05:07:22+00:00

You celebrate that you didn't get married

aigamithite · 2017-06-03T02:09:40+00:00

Awesome lives; Bilzerian didn't do anything in his life. He inherited power from his father, who was practically a criminal.

Hefner has burnt out his drive to the extent that he had to finish himself looking at porn, when an HB9 was on his bed. Hefner however, worked for what he has.

Personally, I have 0 ire for Bilzerian. I'm happy for the guy that can do whatever he wants. However, I would rather die working, with a notch count of 20, and while on my death bed I can think to myself "I lived a life worthy of great men before me", than drown in pussy, booze and guns. Would I like to live this kind of life for 2-3 years? Sure. For an entire lifetime? Nuh. This is the way I see life. Someone else sees it differently.

Most of the people here that have succeeded worked hard. They built businesses, worked their muscles to exhaustion in the gym, devoured as much knowledge possible, practiced seduction diligently even when they were at a handicap.

There is a huge gap between a man born a Bilzerian, and a man becoming one against the odds.

metallicdrama · 2017-06-03T03:08:01+00:00

When you see blue pill guys you just celebrate you're not on their titanic. Why label or box it. Just take your wad of hundreds and stay ready to plow.

Need2LickMuff · 2017-06-03T02:08:20+00:00

Dan Bilzerian embodies that the same late bloomer can have it if he plays his cards right.

How? Dan Bilzerian is a trust-fund baby. He's had money his whole life and has been doing this shit far before he turned 30.

Mickusey · 2017-06-03T06:36:22+00:00

This is a good post because it draws attention to an idea I think is really lacking in this community.

I think the Red Pill has undeniably found its most obvious success in recognizing the pure biological reality that sex and our sex drive makes up the most base parts of our psyche. Sex is the most inherent, prime part of life. Everything about how we've developed, how we select, how we think, how we act, it's based around sex, and that's something that we've all acknowledged here and something that society typically wants to ignore for the inconvenient realities it brings to the table and that individuals - most often beta men want to ignore - because it brings to light their utter failures in terms of the most basic and primal goal you have as a member of a species.

But I think we also forget exactly why sex plays such a massive role, and that is obviously the offspring it creates. We all like to talk huge about personal power, about this excessive individualism, etc. which is fantastic, but I frankly cannot see this attitude being spiritually fulfilling because of the basic link back to sex we all have. Children are the other half of sex, the other part of what drives us and determines our importance as individuals in a species. Failing to have children and propagate them - and a legacy for yourself - is, in my opinion (and according to the realities and purpose of sex) just as much of a failure for you as a man and as a human as being a pathetic beta and virign is.

The only issue is how hard society has made it to have children and settle down without fucking yourself in half. I feel a lot of us have resigned ourselves to a really nihilistic view of things, enjoying the decline and what have you, but I refuse to accept this. It's a bit ironic IMO that we can just shrug and give up at this prospect like weak faggots when we should be fighting it and working to create a better future for ourselves - and in doing so the rest of our species as well.

This reply turned out excessively long, but you get my point.

Mangoinhand · 2017-06-03T07:08:41+00:00

Which type of marriage are you referring to?

There are a couple types:

Legal Marriage
Common Law Marriage

What is wrong with having a wedding, with no Marriage contract and living in a woman's house (while your own properties are rented out)?

I got this shit down pat. I can have children (and happy to pay child support if I must... since ya know... kids gotta eat).

Some people lack the creativity and imagination to pass on their genes without getting financially and psychologically fucked

SoulRedemption · 2017-06-03T05:01:57+00:00

A loaded post with so much bait to swing the thought provoking one way discreetly so the readers don't even know what's really happening in their own mind when reading it. Nicely done, but it feels like an attempt to tarnish "old TRPers" whilst shoeing it as if a wake up, thought provoking call for the "younger" ones.

One thing I can say is, it looks like you are missing the basis of TRP.

It's not a question of marriage or LTRs. It's a question of what you want with your life?

Bedtimeshine · 2017-06-03T08:07:37+00:00

Red pill is about seeing through the bullshit. Dan bilzerian is bullshit. He didn't earn his money, his dad stole it. The women around him are not there out of pure attraction or desire to be around him. They use him as much as he uses them. Without a beard and synthetically enhanced muscles... he ain't nothing but short. His need for attention is pathetic and feminine. Instagram is for insecure woman... not grown men.

GayLubeOil · 2017-06-03T08:00:47+00:00

Marriage is still a viable institution in plenty of other countries. Now women are still women and you will always be dealing with bullshit, however western self centered women are something extra.

Develop a skill that is valuable internationally or just cyber commute then get the fuck out of this god forsaken Sodom and Gomorah.

mushroom_overlord · 2017-06-03T10:41:35+00:00

Nice clickbait I guess? Reading through your post all it seems like you are doing is asking a question and providing an unsupported opinion from YOUR perspective, but phrasing it as if some silent majority has the same perspective. Nice try but that isn't how it works, make your contributions your own instead of acting like the purple-pill messiah.

At first you came to TRP and it was the option that if you do not get married, you can still have a fulfilling social life, sleep with lots of different women, find friends, avoid being a loner, and have fun. Then as you really dig down and go through the facade, you see what else you can potentially become if you decide to avoid marriage and kids. You become a bitter old misanthrope that hates people, is lonely, miserable, can't get laid, and instead vents on an internet forum to get others to follow in his foot steps.

This is basically the typical "red pillers are just sad neckbeards pretending to have a sex life!" No substance whatsoever.

Because once a lot of younger guys really look at what is going on, see that Dan Bilzerian is not only rare but also hated by the same "red pilled" men that preach about sexual strategy, and look at it objectively; they start to see the worst of life after 30 as a bachelor.

They do? Where can I find this throng of "a lot of younger guys?" Dan Bilzerian is a rich fuck, not an alpha example. Sleeping with hot women and having a bunch of money is not the endgame. Its becoming a man who can command respect, including his own, get what he wants but accept that the world does not owe him anything, and develop legitimate alpha attraction (Alpha Fucks) not pull girls who want his resources (Beta Bucks).

Way to be subtle on the typical blue-pill bullshit that you should lock down a woman before 30 or become an unwanted wretch . And saying its "objective." Seriously.

If you are legitimately asking this question instead of masturbating in your revelation that "you guys are all just sexless nerds!!!!" the answer is to find an LTR if you need an LTR. Jesus Christ its that easy. Don't get married unless you have to, not because "spin plates 4ever!" but because the woman will have every reason to divorce-rape you. I know there are the kind of people on TRP who will judge you by the metric of your relationship status, you have to actually pursue what you really want not gain the validation of internet points.

jdgalt · 2017-06-03T03:02:03+00:00

You build a social life around yourself the way a successful professional builds his work life -- by seeking out and surrounding himself with people who help him achieve his goals, and sloughing off those who hinder him. This is a never-ending process. As soon as you become complacent enough to stop winnowing, your success will evaporate. Marriage is what the complacent people do.

The old fashioned concept of the family is a relic of a long-ago time when most economic activity had to take place in the home, the human life expectancy was much shorter, and there was little or no ability to move out of bad life situations. Indeed, it's been less than two centuries since most people considered it imperative to stay with your extended family for these reasons.

Freedom of lifestyle is a new thing historically. Evolution will catch up to it, but it will take time.

mngostckyrce_com · 2017-06-03T08:49:34+00:00

I've been living a pretty good life in a LTR following red pill principles for over 3 years.

mdcrubengonza · 2017-06-04T08:22:23+00:00

Why does there have to be anything? Grow old and enjoy fresh pussy everywhere you go.

103342 · 2017-06-03T02:00:46+00:00

I am one of those guys that wants to have a big family. But I know how insane you would have to be to get married in this day and age.

I'll just keep moving on, trying to get more money and get to a good place professionally.

Who knows, maybe some years from now there will be a new generation of young marrigeable girls. Or there will be some drastic change in society.

We all know the answer to this "question", it is "don't get marreid". Society doesn't care if you and I want to have a family, things are the way they are and we have to adapt.

Also, the option doesn't sound that bad for me anymore. If I don't find an absolute unicorn to have a family with, I'm good just fucking sluts and hookers and enjoying the other aspects of life. Its pretty easy to be happy if you have strength for it.

UnreasoningLogician · 2017-06-03T08:49:18+00:00

Is the question "how do I title a thread so it doesn't sound like a shitty BuzzFeed post?"?

Scandinavianredpill · 2017-06-03T12:51:13+00:00

??? Dan is a trust fund kid, running around trying to find happiness in drugs and women. Each to their own, I don't believe the guy is happy however.

stonepimpletilists · 2017-06-03T14:22:00+00:00

We are a generation of men that are raised by women. Is another woman really the answer?

Perrero · 2017-06-03T14:37:44+00:00

I think LTRs and even marriage is fine when you have a route of escape and can cut your losses easily if they go awry. But if you are a clingy man that gets depressed when he is dumped, or if you are risking your finances and livelyhood, then stay away from those compromises.

textualintercourse · 2017-06-03T15:39:17+00:00

Living how you want. That's what. If that includes marriage? Feel free to jump on that grenade. If it's hobbies? Just as worthy. If it's shagging a new woman every week? Live it up.

That's the point, you live how you want, life on YOUR terms. That's redpill. Society, pressure, culture, none of that shit has play to a man living his own life.

Selfishness isn't living how you want to live. Selfishness is demanding others live how you want to live. Let others lives alone. If you have usable wisdom, share it, but don't demand or make law it be followed.

Shaman6624 · 2017-06-03T16:02:35+00:00

TRP is not the place for politics or moralizing. It's about strategies to satisfy your sexual wants and needs. So the question is: what is the ultimate construction to satisfy a man's sexual needs. Well there are several constructions.

MARRIAGE.

Marriage has nothing to do with love, sexuality or intimacy it's just a contract to share your money. That's it.

LTR

Pros: -Possibly a deeper level of intimacy. -A captain/first mate dynamic it can be nice to have a good partner who supports you.

Cons:
-It's impossible to fake value for a long time so you got to have your shit together big time if you want her to remain attracted to you.
Also you have to be in the right environment and have matching SMV's if you are a garbageman and she's in high finance you're not gonna have a good time (if that's the way she perceives value, remember women have different views on what is a high value man or not so be the man who attracts the girl you want).
-A women is hypergamous so you gotto be the top dog in her eyes to keep it fun.
- So you can have sex whenever you want IF you have a higher SMV then her and apply TRP correctly.

PLATING

Pros:
- You're not emotionally attached to someone in a big way so it doesn't matter that much if she finds another.
- Also it's easier to be Chad to a woman for maybe a few months then it is to be Chad for multiple years in a row.
-You have a natural abundance mindset because you always have at least 3 plates spinning and you know it's not that hard to get another one.
- So you can have sex pretty much whenever you want.

Con's: Less intimacy,

ONE NIGHT STANDS ONLY

Pro's: Even easier to be a god to a woman for one night

Con's you gotto sarge all the time

I_0-_-0I · 2017-06-03T17:08:37+00:00

This post starts with a shit clickbait title, then tries to answer itself by tearing other men down (I don't think Bilzerian is remotely TRP) and stuffing the author's opinions behind some displacement as if to claim that the majority is in agreement with him. This post isn't TRP and is essentially thought-bait for new TRP-ers

blackedoutfast · 2017-06-03T21:58:59+00:00

wealthy, single, plenty of options with women, fun parties, fun friends, and a nice glorious lifestyle worth bragging about

if that's what you want out of life, just figure out how to get there and just do it bro. if you're trying to get approval or consensus from everyone on TRP telling you that's exactly what you should do it's never going to happen.

people will give you shit and try to shame you out of jealousy, but forget them. live your life and do whatever makes you happy. if you've got haters that means you're doing something right.

if other guys want to try the traditional marriage thing and have lots of kids, or be some kind of MGTOW who avoids women completely, then whatever it's their life. if they try to tell you that their way is the only good way, just ignore them.

trptaway2211 · 2017-06-11T23:25:05+00:00

Dan Bilzerian is as near Chad as you can get IRL imo, buttt let's not forget that a lot of those options with women exist SOLELY because of the fact that he has a fuck ton of money. If Dan Bilzerian was broke as fuck, I'd love to see how many of those options stick around.

pn_me_your_dick · 2017-06-03T06:44:27+00:00

life is not about fun you women seeking morons

Sir_Distic · 2017-06-03T12:42:45+00:00

Dan Bilzerian

Who? I've never heard of him. Should I have?

TrumpRules2016 · 2017-06-03T13:13:49+00:00

Honestly. I think Dan Bilzerian while might be a jerk, is freaking awesome and is living life the way he wants and not the way society tells him to. Party on a freaking boat with a few other guys and dozens of beautiful women seems like a great way to spend a Saturday afternoon.

notadaddy · 2017-06-03T08:44:47+00:00

As a guy that's been through some stuff, the real answer is any guy who hasn't done high school sports or military boot camp soon after high school hasn't really been through some right of passage ritual.

THE_StrongBoy · 2017-06-03T16:39:13+00:00

Idk why it would keep anyone up at night. Married guys arent happy and they cant live the lives they want to

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