So, i come here to make a field report on how i recently handled ASD, and the importance of holding frame when doing so.

About a month ago, i found this girl on Tinder, easily an 8.5/10, and started talking to her. Didn't waste any time, and had a date two days after starting the conversation.

DATE 1

We met at a bar, and started talking. We really hit it off when talking via tinder/whatsapp, and it was the same in person. We sat at opposite ends of the table, i ordered us both a beer and we talked and talked. I noticed that i had already ordered my third beer and she hadn't finished her first one yet. So i moved my chair to be sitting next to her, and started doing some light kino and started drinking more slowly. When she finished her second glass, i moved in and kissed. After a few minutes making out, she got up, and i asked for the check. We got moving and got to her place. We're inside the car right outside her house, and immediately i figured out this girl was not going to do anything more than some light making out: every time i moved my hand and tried to escalate, she'd immediately move my hand back - so i ended the date early. Gave her a kiss and said my goodbyes.

I was not giving up - i'll break through this girl's ASD.

DATE 2:

This time we met at a park. She mentioned she was a Buddhist and i was always curious about it, so she said she was going to teach me some stuff and we were going to meditate together. So, there we were, and oh no, it started raining, better go to the car. So we're at the park, and by this time everyone there had already noped, so it's mainly just the two of us in the car, so we start making out. Again she's blocking my every attempt to escalate - clearly, i'm going to have to step up my game. So i start talking dirty, and pretty soon, she reveals she has only been with one guy prior - she's barely not a virgin anymore.

But, i notice something wrong here: she's NOT blushing when i talk dirty. She nervously giggles and gets a bit shy, but as much as she SAYS she wants me to change the subject, she's CLEARLY enjoying this. So after she drops that she has only been with one guy, she asks me with how many girls i've been with, and i reply: "I don't know, i lost count.". And she's amused as hell by this. After this, i saw that preselection at work - she was no longer blocking ALL my attempts at escalation. But, she had to leave, so it ended there.

Now i had a clear strategy on how to handle her ASD.

DATE 3:

This time, i said that we should hang out at a park. I have a pretty good sound system in my car, and she enjoys the same kind of music i do, so i said, why don't we hang out, just listen to music, make out and talk? So, we get there, and first order of business, is start to escalate right away. When we start to make out and she starts her ASD, i ask her:

ME: Do you masturbate? HER: What?? What the hell kind of question is that? ME: I asked if you masturbate or not. HER: No! I don't enjoy it. ME: Really? Everyone should masturbate, it's how you get to know your body. HER: I don't know, sex just isn't that important to me i guess. ME: How so? The entire world is about sex. Sex makes television, sex influences politics. It has started and ended wars...

At this point i go in a long tirade about how sex is intertwined in everything in the world. She's absolutely wide-eyed, but she's listening intently. She shit tests me, and i shoot her down immediately. We talk a lot about it, and she says that i'm different from any of the guys that she has met previously. None of them really talked to her like that.

Now she knows how much sex is important to me, and she clearly knows that's what i want. This make out session, she doesn't pull my hands. But, still, she doesn't want to close. I said we should go somewhere and do it, but she's adamant, so that's the end of it. No matter how much i pushed, this wasn't going to be it.

DATE 4:

We set up the same arrangement, but this time, it was a bit different. At first, she was, again, with her ASD fully up. This time, when she would shit test me by saying that i should really stop, i said to her that if she REALLY wanted me to stop, then she should own up to it and say that she wants me to drop her at home, because i'm NOT going to stop, and if she's in here with me, then i WILL continue to try and push this towards sex. After that, she started to drop the act, and we got to the same point we had on the last date, with me lightly fingering her and agressively making out. Then, she attempted to shit test me:

HER: Wow, all you do is think about sex. I bet you haven't had sex in a while. How long since you last had some? ME: Last week, actually. HER: Wow, what? I didn't know you were seeing anyone else. ME: You're not? I just assumed you were. I mean, you still enter Tinder, right? Sometimes i enter and i see you were just online HER: No, not really... But, i mean, how did that happen? She just, what, called you and you met and fuck? ME: Yup, that's basically how it happened. She called, i picked her up, we went to a motel, fucked, i dropped her back at her house, done deal. HER: Wow, so you were seeing her before? ME: Yeah, we sometimes call each other if we're up for a lay or something.

She then goes on to say that she didn't expect that, but she would appreciate if more guys were more honest and upfront like i was. She said she was surprised that it didn't really put her off in the slightest, and, next thing i know, she's all up in my business. She's now making out MUCH more agressively, and after i fingerfuck her to orgasm, she starts to spill the beans:

She's actually bisexual. Most of her experience has been with women, so she has actually had sex many more times than she said she has, but it was all with girls. Which is why she's so shy around dicks(doesn't suck, etc.). Her last, and only boyfriend, the one that she lost her dick virginity to, was a really sleazy beta, and she started to LAY WASTE on him. She said he was the kind of guy that was confessing his eternal and undying love for her barely a month after they started dating, would shower her with flowers and say he wanted her to bear his children - all that usual crap. So they travelled together, she finally put out, they broke up shortly after because he changed and wasn't so lovey dovey anymore, and nary a month afterwards he was with another chick doing the same thing.

So she created this image in her head of men, and then i came, and i completely shattered it. I talk about sex a lot, but i don't make it sound like an obligation to her - i make it sound like FUN, and i try to make it a good time for her as well as for me, and i'm not trying to trick her into anything, she knows what i want, and she knows i'm not going to stop.

Her demeanor completely changes at this point, and she decides she's going to show me what she knows about fucking. She's not holding back or trying to look like she isn't fully enjoying what i'm doing to her. She's being vocal - the complete opposite from before. She was still shy around the dick - didn't even want more than one finger because it hurt - but she did finish me off with her hands(took a while).

The road is now clear, and next date is going to go swimmingly.


This story highlights the importance of HOLDING FRAME. Anti-Slut Defense is a real thing. Girls will try and look as if they DON'T want you to try and fuck her, but, in reality, what they want is the OPPOSITE. They want you to challenge them, they want you to show that you want her pussy SO MUCH that you WON'T take a no for an answer.

She says you only want to fuck? Hold frame, say that if that's not what she wants, she's free to go home, but you're not stopping. The key is always escalating, never slow your pace, and confront her ASD with raw sexual energy. You know what you want.

ASD is the woman equivalent of men holding frame. It's their attempt to show themselves to men as society says they should behave: chaste, prude, virginal. Purportedly, it helps increase her perceived value and generate a desire for commitment in the male. It also serves to separate the Alpha from the Beta. The Beta will try to woo the girl that has her ASD up with flowers and gifts. The Alpha will brute force his penis into her vagina.

A fitting analogy would be a staring contest. In a staring contest, the first to break eye contact or blink, loses. In the same way, to break her ASD, a man mustn't divert from his goal. If you don't hold frame and stand your ground, ASD wins.

Preselection also helps a lot. She didn't need to know ANYTHING about the girl i said i fucked last week - she just assumed that she had a SMV as high as hers - in reality, that's not the case. But because she assumes that the girl has as high SMV as she has, she feels the need to one-up the girl. She's interested in me now, since i've set myself apart from the usual Beta, so she tries to reel me in by letting down some of her barriers.

Knowing how to handle shit tests is another skill you must master in order to create chinks in the ASD armor. With rational, logical and carefully thought out arguments, i managed to turn my insistent conversation about sex from some creepy pervert shit into a valid statement about how i see the world and how it really is that interested and shocked her, and helped solidify how i wanted her to see me.

When you finally find enough chinks in the ASD armor, it all comes down crashing, and the real girl that was underneath all this time surfaces. And when this happens, you'll know that you have successfully landed a plate.