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Redpill in chart form.

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June 6, 2014
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Title Redpill in chart form.
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Upvotes 182
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Date June 6, 2014 9:32 PM UTC
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[–][deleted] 96 points97 points98 points 12 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

My god, biology doesn't conform to what makes me feel good? I am deeply disturbed.

[–]Science_isthenewcool24 points 12 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Can't believe people are actually surprised by this.

[–]puaSenator 30 points31 points32 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No one is actually "surprised". The only people pretending to be "surprised" are the ones that no longer fit in that category.

[–]thewrightstuff88 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Tell that to the 34 year old professional, I.N.D.E.P.E.N.D.E.N.T. woman who will down play the 21 year old as immature and lacking wisdom, when it was her who was in the same place only 13-15 years ago. The wall is quite the wake up call. Even if you go after that 34 year old, who's to say she won't use you up for financial security while she secretly goes for the more exciting, rugged man? Old habits die hard. Dat double standard.

[–]JDoorjam 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Er, any 34-year-old woman is well aware she was hotter at 20, single ones even painfully more so.

[–]thewrightstuff88 -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

regardless, even at 34, she will still believe she has more to offer than the 20 year old. She may be aware of it but she'll be damned if she admits it. She wouldn't allow her ego to take such a blow, especially after being on the CC for so long and suddenly being out of tokens for another ride.

[–]Overzealous_BlackGuy 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Older women do have more to offer, the problem is finding one that has a 20 yr old body. Nahm Sayin'?

[–]thewrightstuff88 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

thats like a needle in a haystack, and if they've been single for that long, theres gotta be a reason

[–]JDoorjam -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

:: shrug :: she's your imaginary archetype. You know better how she feels than I do.

But the charts simply say who is attractive, which I'm guessing means physical. So even acknowledging that 20-year-old women are the hottest, your hypothetical 34-year-old has a point that there's more to relationships than physical attraction. It'd drive me nuts to date a 20-year-old no matter how hot she is.

[–]ringydingy 62 points63 points64 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

But but but, the genders are equal! HOW CAN THIS BE

[–]homosexualsaipian 53 points54 points55 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I BLAME PATRIARCHY. OMFG.

[–]Patriarchal_Bondage 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

the

OMFG.

made it for me.

[–]CarrotTrees18 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

THIS IS REALLY PROBLEMATIC. ALSO, OP PLEASE TAG YOUR POSTS, I WAS TRIGGERED BY THIS.

[–]redpillshadow 79 points80 points81 points 12 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

These two charts from OkCupid founder @christianrudder's new book will disturb you deeply.

Nope. Not disturbing at all.

[–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan 48 points49 points50 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Biology and reality is disturbing to feminists and blue pillers. What they don't realize is that it is feminism itself that is making 20 to 24 year olds available to men in their 30s and 40s, by telling them to shun marriage and "explore their sexuality" (be a slut). No doubt, the knowledge among these men that they have access to 20 year olds is increasing the perceived attractiveness.

[–]JDoorjam 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think it's the fact that 20-year-old women are hotter that's adding to their perceived attractiveness, availability or no.

[–]thepillwastaken 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, this 1,000 times over. I'm 35 and many girls that are 20-24 have told me they have fantasized about being with an older guy before I fucked them.

Seems the other criteria is that a guy "looks or is older than their dad" is the line for things getting creepy.

[–]DegenerateAsshole 37 points38 points39 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The idea that anyvody would be 'disturbed' by the fact that men find women in their early twenties attractive shows how absurd the mainstream PC strain of thought is.

[–]yourenogood 16 points17 points18 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Is this the same guy as who used to do the OkCupid stats blog? I always found that one kinda funny, because the data was literally right there, and yet it would always be presented and summarised with some pro-feminist/hamster slant which contradicted it.

E.g.
Data shows women overwhelmingly go for guys who have pics with their shirt off
"Men should avoid having shirtless pics, but maybe have say one at the beach where it's not out of place"

[–]dallz_beep 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is why we call it The Red Pill. The Matrix is pure lies. It exists in its own little bubble of false reality. For 10,000 years of human history, what we know here was obvious to all. Now, most people in western society are completely delusional. Welcome to The Matriarchy, where feels > facts.

[–]herpterp123 15 points16 points17 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I get a sadistic satisfaction over imagining fat femicunts looking at these, grabbing their 6 cheeks in both hands and blurting "MUAH FEELZSZ!" I can't help it, enjoying them being disturbed is like the nectar of Gods

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I will in the future mentally enjoy the same imagery, thank you.

[–]abcd_z 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I laughed viciously. :)

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[–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan 45 points46 points47 points 12 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Holly A. Bell ‏@HollyBell8 22h I'm doomed @BuzzFeedAndrew: These two charts from OkCupid founder @christianrudder's new book will disturb you deeply pic.twitter.com/jZXgAqPsOL

Yes you are, Holly. Yes you are. How many men have you rejected over the years, sweetheart? Need a ride to the cat shelter?

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[–]EducatedCavemen 11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I laughed at that one. Once women hit the wall, they can't lie to themselves anymore. They can try, but deep down, they know they are fucked.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

... or not, in the literal sense. Okay, they are, but oh you know what I'm saying.

[–]trpalternate 15 points16 points17 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Katherine Miller ‏@katherinemiller Jun 5 @BuzzFeedAndrew Or — not mutually exclusive thought — the ideal age for people to be is 39 for men and 20 for women.

That's the SMV curve right there.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Awaiting feminist shit storm in three... two...

[–]veyron1001 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ouch. Feminism is ruining women. It clearly shows that women have nothing to offer besides sex and its true when women are showing off how useless they are.

[–]bobbyontario 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

ROFL. I need to blast this out to every carousel rider I know who I've repeated this to over and over again. Good female friends, but those chicks are getting greedy going on 28... anyone who's played Tony Hawk Pro Skater knows what I'm talking about.

[–]Epicureanist 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I need to blast this out to every carousel rider I know

No you really don't...

[–]bobbyontario -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No you really don't...

I like feeding these girls bits of RP in a kind, big-brotherly way. We go back to elementary/middle school, and they are becoming frustrated that it's getting harder to lock down prospects. They don't talk about the c. riding aspect of their world travel and second+ degrees to me, but AWALT. They assume I am clueless, I have been until recently... it's amazing what I am learning from watching them. I've talked about them before in my posting history, special case long-time female friends. I used the term "every rider I know," lazy on my part... I am not going around picking fights. We email each other interesting stuff.

[–]Ironhigh 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Kind of obvious actually, young men are attractive to the female instincts for having a lot of energy, and even when aging older man are also attractive since age works as proof of survival.

Women on the other hand have tons of fertility when young, but it gets busted quickly.

If you just have a tiny understatement of natural selection things like this are no secret.

[–]hyorilee 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

So true. There's something about dating a girl in her early 20's as compared to one who's in her mid 20's (25-27) to her late 20's (27-29).

The younger girls are always so enthusiastic, so bright eyed and game for just about anything. They're impressed with just about anything you do with them since chances are, they haven't experienced it yet.

Compare this with a girl in her mid/late twenties who carry this "been there, done that" attitude which gets real old, real fast.

[–]the99percent1 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Im in my mid twenties and currently dating a fresh out of high school 18 year old stunner.

I can't believe how much being an RP man and not taking shit has this girl heads over heels for me.

She focuses all her efforts into keeping me pleased. I almost feel sorry for her, but fuck me, its one of the best feeling in the world when a chick knows her place.

What attracts me the most to her is her innocence, she's so pure, unbroken or exploited by feminism or other men yet. I love how I can give her life and financial advice, change her ways of not being too idealistic, take her to 'grown up' places and show her things other than just her after school hang out spots , and not be judgmental over things you have no clue about.

The way she bats her eyes on things shes clueless and wants to learn more about gives me an instant boner.

Hell, she just had her first taste of alcohol the other day. It was the cutest thing I've ever seen.

Men, count your lucky stars you have the option to go younger if you wanted to.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

hat makes sense :o

[–]niggerjewOFFICIAL 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Men are the worst. Well, straight men anyway." - James motherfucking Ball

[–]VarsitySlutTeamCpt 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Can someone explain the chart?

[–]skirmisher 15 points16 points17 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The first picture shows that the older a woman gets the older men they like the best (a 30yo woman likes 30yo men the best for example). Girls younger than 30 years like slightly older men and women older than 30 years old like slightly younger men than themselves. But mostly, it shows that women like men their own age with few exceptions.

The second picture shows that men always likes 20 year old girls the best, no matter their age. a 50 year old man will still like 20 year olds the best, just like 20-year old men.

[–]DarkSayed 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

The black number on the left is the person's age. The red number is the age that the opposite sex looks best to them. For example, the chart on the left (women's age....) tells you that 23 year old women think 25 year old men look best. The one on the right says 42 year old men think 20 year old women look best.

[–]VarsitySlutTeamCpt 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Wheres the men's chart im on mobile..i only see the women's

[–]DarkSayed 16 points17 points18 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I put them up.

http://imgur.com/a/u952J

[–]VarsitySlutTeamCpt 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Wow holy shit lololol

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Should be absolutely 0 surprise to anyone who has swallowed TRP.

Though I do find the consistency across men of all ages for preference to far younger women (20-21) to be rather telling... remember a lot of these dudes are the same white knight beta blue pill pussies who shame other guys for not pounding the old dried up post-wall cunt and probably simultaneously want to bone a barely legal chick like any other guy.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

That's awesome. However I expected the woman's curve to be even better. Is a 20yo girl really more attracted to a 23yo than a 25yo? I guess some guys do get out of shape or start showing some sign of aging but in general if a guy takes care of himself I expected the chart to start at 28 or so. In general they are better dressed, better built, more confidence, than their younger counter part.

Oh well at least I am not a woman :)

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I guess it's just looks. Hell, I certainly looked better at 23-24 than I do now, face-wise...

[–]rplearn-1 points 12 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

I think it may have to do with hamstering. Basically, womb interpret the question as, who would you be the most attractive for a RELATIONSHIP for you. If they don't think they can bag a 20yo as a 50 yo, they wern't really /s attracted to begin with.

[–]JDoorjam 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

OKCupid stats typically aren't done with poll questions, they're done with data analysis, either by seeing who messages whom, or asking members to pick who's hottest from a bunch of paired photos. They then derive their results from that data.

[–]rplearn2 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I'm glad they do. I still think that hamstering / sopilism makes it difficult for women to rate hotness objectively. I'm just as interested in WHY this is the case as I am about knowing it is the case.

[–]hamstercide 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is amazing. Thank you for this.

[–]Afterfx21 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The Cougar Curve lol

[–]Rainymood_XI 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What is so shocking about this chart? I don't get it.

Makes me glad to be a man lol. Appreciating asset in their eyes.

[–]asd1100 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How the fuck is something that was obvious to people through all of human history is now "surprising" and "shocking".

My brain hurts.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

45 year olds... WHATS GOIN ON?

[–]slcjosh 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Read the comments. One caught my attention "Men are the worst" then followed up by "Well, Straight men at least". So we are the worst because our nature and biology hard coded us to go for younger women for all of their benefits, rather than older women who are no longer in their prime to create offspring.

Whats shocking about this article is the bullshit title, the severe lack of logic from its commenters, and the ridiculous demonization of male sexuality.

[–]648262 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Is there a chart for men as well?

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes...

One chart shows the age of women as compared to men they found most appealing. This chart has no surprises for TRP members 20 something women like guys a few years older than them. 40+ women like guys a few years younger than them.

The other chart shows the age of men as compared to women they found most appealing. Again no surprises for TRP members it's a straight line down the left side around 20-21 pretty much from the point where dudes are 20 years old all the way up to 50.

[–]RG68 -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Has he deleted the male chart? I can't see the 2nd one either

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's in the twitter link that is serving as the article.

https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedAndrew/status/474733253308719104

click on the pictures theres two. one is women and the men they find attractive and the other is men and the women they find attractive based entirely on age.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

One of the first comments underneath by a woman was, "I'm doomed." Wake up and smell the Wall, honey.

[–]redpilldude 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Men are attracted to youth and beauty. How can anyone deny or question this?

[–]ProfessorD2 -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

How is this Red Pill confirmation or shocking in any way at all?

[–]Wrong_Opinion7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This is empirical confirmation of the SMV curve.

[–]ProfessorD2 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

But how is it Red Pill that women prefer men roughly their own age, give or take a couple of years?

EDIT: It seems we should instead see 20 year old women preferring 20 year old men because they're busy carouseling. By 30 we should see a drastic leap to older men when women hit the wall and start looking for beta bucks. Instead there is no such drastic change; consistently women found men roughly their own age to be most attractive. The only change is a matter of +2 to -2 years, hardly a drastic difference over time.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I guess it's just looks. Everything else being equal, a 20 yo girl would snatch a 23 yo stud over him at 33 yo. However, nothing is ever equal, so...

[–]yourenogood -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hahahaha that perfectly clear wall at 30... oh man...

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd like to see what the actual question was, or how these graphs came about. What was the size of the sample? Where were they? How did they get the ages? For all we know they had some online poll that a self-selected group of a couple of hundred mainly-young men filled out.

Whilst it's no surprise men of any age tend to find women in their early 20s most physically-attractive, without any context we're learning nothing from this.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Epicureanist -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Male okc users, aged 20-50, find women in their early 20s to be most attractive.

Female okc users tend to find men slightly older than them/around their age attractive.

[–]heavywepsguy -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've always thought that women see more value in men older than them (having a stable career + maturity and confidence and stuff), up to a certain point, up to 10 years even, which is supposedly what allows men in their 30s (the non-blue-pillers anyways) to ignore the post-wall hags ages 30+ and go straight for the fresh meat. But the chart shows that women like their men only a few years older than them when the women are in their 20s. Maybe the girls in the 20s CAN find the men ages 30+ attractive, but TEND not to consider them AS attractive as men somewhat closer to their age?

[–]euneaux -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I only see one chart... Has anybody an archive copy?

[+]jammers94 -10 points-9 points-8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I know it goes with out saying but hypergamy much?

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