Testosterone - natural frame, perfect abundance mentality, confidence

Entropy-7 · 2016-03-19T23:43:23+00:00

There's a case to be made if women can 'smell' or otherwise detect high testosterone levels.

DforDeadpool · 2016-03-19T23:27:35+00:00

Well, glad it works out for you. And be careful, of course.

TrenAcetate · 2016-03-20T02:17:37+00:00

I can confirm a lot of what you are saying. Just be mindful that it really is a slippery slope from the point you are at now. My first cycle was test only, then test+orals and then high doses/multiple drugs at once. Making steady gains, strength going up every week, walking around at well over 200 and very lean.. Knowing that you look better than 95% of men and that a large amount of women are open to the idea of fucking you is definitely hard to walk away from.

laser_attack · 2016-03-20T05:00:09+00:00

Testosterone is the physical manifestation of all that TRP teaches.

No it's not. Otherwise game is 100% useless and can just replaced with injections.

And steroids are test to perfection.

No. They are exogenous hormones that you are taking to feel like a real man...instead of being a real man. In your pursuit of "alpha", you are disrupting your HPTA axis. Hope you are running HCG and adex. Otherwise it's possible that your balls are atrophying. You're also at risk for bitch tits. Using gear is delusional, it makes you the opposite of what you think you are. You've (temporarily) neutered yourself for the delusion of "increased" manliness. You have no, or very little, sperm. Your sex is worthless as an "alpha". And there are long-term risks: HPTA restart failure, atrophied testes, kidney cancer risk, heart disease risks, infertility. I get the allure, but it's a bad way to go m8.

regallomontana · 2016-03-20T04:04:56+00:00

careful about the side effects . Has damaging effect on the testis . What you say is correct , but it is fake feeling just like cocaine fakes an exotic mood .

fromdario · 2016-03-20T00:29:52+00:00

The issue with test injections is that your body stops producing your own test after a while because it doesn't need to. So if you ever stop using, your levels will drop significantly and it's difficult to restart your body's production. Just a word of caution.

masterpiece00 · 2016-03-20T04:20:38+00:00

Good luck with your malfunctioning body goals of 2016

WhiteTrashKiller · 2016-03-20T17:30:05+00:00

There should always be a disclaimer of sorts posted with every thread of this nature. There is a lot of opinions here that aren't based on real world experiences, not that literature isn't bad to reference but every person is different on both a psychological and physiological level.

I had mine tested since I felt the same way, with a lagging tiredness, no morning wood, no energy or appetite for quite a while. I've been tested at least 6 times by different primary care Dr's in 4 years. All came back normal, lower end but still normal (never higher than low 400's, normally 320's, some in 200's). Very high SHBG binding to the Test eating it up and reducing free T. Free T was high single digits at best. I go to the gym 7 days a week, strength days and cardio ab days every other day. My diet is in check, BP 110/78, sugar 90, total cholesterol 190, slightly lower HDL(family trait) all blood levels good, I very rarely stray from my plan and still couldn't raise my T levels. Cholesterol is the building block for T, if you go on a low cholesterol diet you are robbing your body of the fuel source needed to make T.

I didn't want huge pecs hanging off my chest and it wasn't that I wanted to look better, but the loss in energy, no am wood, libido in the shitter was not getting better. You just get old I thought and I was just gonna have to live with it. Last summer I got way down in BF% and was happy with what I looked like, but I still wanted to fix my other issues. The younger me was dying a slow death and it was exhausting.

Now let me state everyone should approach this with an open mind and and kill your ego. Most likely your potential hasn't been maxed out and you have to be honest with yourself about that. IMHO you should max out what you have, don't get to 75% and start blasting cause you're being lazy and playing with your life especially at some of your guys ages is crazy. Keto down to where you are around 12% bf, while working out and eating a strict unwavering committed diet. If you are lazy about your fitness and lazy about your diet, you'll most likely be lazy about your regiment, lab work and PCT and you will pay for it with your life. If you are below 35 yrs old more likely than not you will not have low T(except for that rare % of the population with endocrine problems). Your diet and physical fitness are most likely fucked, fix them first.

I can honestly say now since starting my first cycle of TRT I knew I maxed out what I could to make me feel better. So after the wall of txt above here are my impressions of TRT, my first cycle. I am not talking medicines or dosages this is just my opinion on my benefits realized from taking it.

Dr first prescribed a heavy dose once every two weeks, I knew from reading this would be bad, but it had to be this way to start. The high was an unbelievable high(too high), the low was noticeable and the crash horrendous.

With a half life of 6-8 days taking a large shot like this and having it slowly decline is not good for you and you're stuck waiting while your T levels crash through the floor for your next shot to come. The conversion to Estro is just as bad and needs to be paid attention to even more since a sky high T number means little if it is converting to Estro. Bigger the shot, the bigger the conversion to Estro. Same thing goes for SHBG. It binds to your T making your Free T number lower and that number is the one you want higher not just your total. As you age SHBG number increases and there is no drug that can lower it to my knowledge, it is natural. Your LH and FSH will definitely shut off. LH sends the signals to the Testes from the pituitary to stop producing normal T and testicular atrophy will commence. LH and FSH are important for reproduction and if they are shut off for too long may never restart(chemical castration). As stated here there are medicines to combat the side effects or TRT. Read, Read, Read

The good- gains will be noticeable, strength goes up, BF goes down, not as tired, no mental fog, appetite goes up, morning wood(harder than chinese arithmetic), libido returned.

The Bad- oily acne skin(it sux Ive never had it even as a teenager), higher blood pressures(pounding heart beat), pain at injection site, low sperm count(noticeablly less ejaculate to you and her, if she swallows she will notice), hair loss(i dont have any hair so fuck you guys that do). There is no correlation from the books I read that aTRT regiment will increase your PSA, give you a heart attack or generally will make you sick. Not that it won't, but there isn't any long term controlled study that I know of that states as much.

I am not sure if staying on TRT year round is the wise thing to do since managing the variables that go with using it is never ending and is expensive as hell. I guess that is why guys B&C. Do a cycle, manage your Pct to keep your nuts working rinse and repeat. No way to tell how I will feel off cycle unless I try it.

HTH!

Onemanwolfpack23 · 2016-03-20T03:02:10+00:00

I agree with this, I had to do nofap for a week and felt completely different in my day to day interactions.

redwurst · 2016-03-20T11:31:45+00:00

I'm 28. Good diet, sleep, exercise, and LOT of activity (I don't work in the office). And lot of thin 20yo chicks ofc.

My T is so high that I'm even worried. Boner multiple times a day, erections harder then when I was 18, unexplainable power and confidence. I just feel it in my blood. I think a lot can be achieved without juice.

Entropy-7 · 2016-03-20T07:32:05+00:00

So what are the legal options? I am late 40s and have to get back into lifting. I have the advantage of being in spectacular shape when I was younger (ex-military, airborne trained) but I was always a hard gainer. That carries over somewhat.

Anyways, I am looking for some extras to pack on some muscle.

If anyone says "Kratom" I will reach through my internet connection and strangle you.

redpilltaste · 2016-03-20T03:55:22+00:00

Take it easy. I wish you all the best. It can be great as a learning tool if you don't make it a crutch.

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Blaat1985 · 2016-03-20T07:26:49+00:00

I'm too worried I might lose my hair while on it. It's already slowly receding.

--CASPER-- · 2016-03-20T10:57:02+00:00

What testosterone did you take we're can I purchase them, and are they safe?

froggyfreshrap · 2016-03-20T15:12:44+00:00

What u doing against the excess estrogen? And u noticing any side effects?

AlphaEndoGorillaKing · 2016-03-20T21:17:55+00:00

I most certainly believe that i can smell an attractive, ovulating woman.

cogsbrah · 2016-03-21T14:19:06+00:00

On the subject of steroids, when is an optimal age to start using? I'm 19 and have been working out since I was 15. Should I wait until my natural test depletes or wish until my mid 20's?

georgewhiskeyjones · Sun Mar 20 16:46:59 2016 UTC

calm down fraud

some of us still have high T without injecting it bud

you're literally dependent on exogenous drugs to exist in that state, might as well be a fkn tranny

i'm all for what you're sayin but not for the T replacement (unless you're an old man)

iLLprincipLeS · 2016-03-20T23:55:04+00:00

Testosterone is the physical manifestation of all that TRP teaches.

Don't know if it's T. Closest to physical manifestation, the biggest boost (buzz) I got, was from this High-School girls. You don't give a fuck and they love the fuck out of you. And I mean, it's love.. they really think they love you. It might be something naturally induced, my senses are just more acute, everything is intensified to serve my prevail.

Guess TRP is love.. or love is TRP... or I am love. hmm..

btw:

Confidence, abundance, frame, game, whatever name you give to social perfection.

Pramiracetam does that for around 1 hour (limit only twice per month for full effect)

The__Tren__Train · 2016-03-20T05:11:03+00:00

LOL! Gayest fucking thread

I remember my first injection.. <sigh>

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